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"0tterbot" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message :-)) If I had a loathing for every nasty incident that happened to me in my childhood, I'd never have chooks or a garden or go near dogs, cats, cattle, pushbikes or horses. yeah, i know. i decided to just limit my neurosis to roses though ;-) having said that, they seem to leap out at me whenever i pass the damn things. my bike accident was truly spectacular, but now roses just harrass me in tiny ways. g I have a particular loathing for tulips. If anyone asks me why, I say because they are stiff and formal but then I love all of the narcissus family so there is absolutely no logic at all in my reaction to tulips because daffs etc are all similar to tulips. tbh, i don't think it's "roses" as a concept i detest exactly - it's more that i share cranky old clive blazey's opinion that the hybrid picking roses are over-large (but mostly quite lovely) flowers growing on truly, genuinely, unattractive bushes. I'd agree with that to some extent. Hybrid teas are very like that. Perhaps it is more a matter of needing to know more about the huge family of roses to find the right ones. Peirre de Ronsard has got to be one of my all time favourites and it has huge heads if weel grown and the heads can often droop, but not if they are well grown. I can't seem to grow them well, but I keep trying to get them to lift their heads. whereas the old roses are just gorgeous, bushes & all. kwim? (i'm a kind of wholistic gardener - if it looks crap 8 months of the year, i don't really want it ;-) Yeah. I no longer grow any roses that aren't recurrant flowerers. I've also been told that I shouldn't prune roses (or weed near them) because of the risk of infection (caused by thorns) that they apparently pose to someone such as myself for one of the types of cancers I have survived. I ignore that last piece of advice. If the cancers didn't kill me, then my number just isn't up yet and even if my ignorance of such advice does result in death, well so what? We all have to die of something. :-)) that's a great attitude. my grandfather was a market gardener in the heady days of ddt & my mum (who must have got it all over herself multiple times) kind of thinks the same thing (about how it's probably in all our dna now like a time bomb... argh!) Hmmm. I think I spoke too soon. I am now very carefully watching a finger and wondering if I should take it to the doctor for some antibiotics. Hit a thorn din' I!!! but yes. if you love your roses, i should think you get more value from loving them & caring for them than worrying about what "might" happen. :-) having said that, we do have a lovely pale-yellow (thornless!!!!) climber here & it's just beautiful. i'm pretty sure i've seen dorothy perkins & it is beautiful too. old-fashioned climbing and banking roses really are lovely provided i don't have to go near them. sigh!! Most roses are lovely if they are in the right setting and are the right colour and if they have perfume (I don't like roses with no perfume). I think the same could probably said for most flowering plants. that's very true. i was talking with someone recently who wants to convert his old garden into all-native, & i DID say, keep your roses for now while you're still thinking about it all, not least because they're tough & easy. all plants have their place, in the right place. roses have a lot going for them. Yes. I have seen many long abandoned old cottages whihc still have roses growing in an otherwise cattle eaten and dessimated garden. I like such survival plants. |
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