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g'day rob,

no pic's i could do if need be provide some but it is a standard sort
of ribbed/concertina style hose like a vacuum hose very flexible they
come in standard lengths all set up to connect to the machine hose
buyt them from most hardware stores we got our from that bunning
store, they are in black or i have seen grey colour.

let me know if you still want pic's


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g'day rob,

no pic's i could do if need be provide some but it is a standard sort
of ribbed/concertina style hose like a vacuum hose very flexible they
come in standard lengths all set up to connect to the machine hose
buyt them from most hardware stores we got our from that bunning
store, they are in black or i have seen grey colour.

let me know if you still want pic's


So you have a one run hose out to the garden Len? I do know the type you
mean, the standard outlet hose that comes with the machine but longer.

I basically want to rig a bodge job for a few dollars. The outlet hose is
quite a bit bigger than a standard garden hose. I don't want to pay much
money for any hosing if possible. Unless I can get my hands on 20 odd
lengths of the WM outlet hose & find a simple way of joining them I think I
may be stuck with a smaller diameter hose (like garden hose) & some
mechanism to have to narrow the diameter down. Bunnings here would charge
about $6 per metre length which runs out to around $100 bucks for something
that would do the back lawn. Too much for my liking. If you have any bright
ideas let me know. I will report back on my progress.

Thanks
Rob

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George.com wrote:

I basically want to rig a bodge job for a few dollars. The outlet hose
is quite a bit bigger than a standard garden hose. I don't want to pay
much money for any hosing if possible. Unless I can get my hands on 20
odd lengths of the WM outlet hose & find a simple way of joining them I
think I may be stuck with a smaller diameter hose (like garden hose) &
some mechanism to have to narrow the diameter down. Bunnings here would
charge about $6 per metre length which runs out to around $100 bucks for
something that would do the back lawn. Too much for my liking. If you
have any bright ideas let me know. I will report back on my progress.


Using standard garden hose is not going to work, unless the washing
machine empties into a surge tub (laundry sink?). If you try and use the
wm pump to pump it that length, you will end up burning it out.

Sounds like you are just goingto have to bite the bullet and buy stuff
unless yuou want to scavenge vacume cleaner hosing or such.
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George.com wrote:

I basically want to rig a bodge job for a few dollars. The outlet hose is
quite a bit bigger than a standard garden hose. I don't want to pay much
money for any hosing if possible. Unless I can get my hands on 20 odd
lengths of the WM outlet hose & find a simple way of joining them I think
I may be stuck with a smaller diameter hose (like garden hose) & some
mechanism to have to narrow the diameter down. Bunnings here would charge
about $6 per metre length which runs out to around $100 bucks for
something that would do the back lawn. Too much for my liking. If you
have any bright ideas let me know. I will report back on my progress.


Using standard garden hose is not going to work, unless the washing
machine empties into a surge tub (laundry sink?). If you try and use the
wm pump to pump it that length, you will end up burning it out.


you mean the pump will burn out if I try to force water through a NARROWER
diameter pipe? Or it will burn out if I try & pump the water 20 odd metres
down the SAME diameter pipe?

Sounds like you are just goingto have to bite the bullet and buy stuff
unless yuou want to scavenge vacume cleaner hosing or such.


I had a look round this evening & reckon I can salvage the outlet hoses from
a range of second hand dumper washing machines. If I stop bye a couple of
the big whiteware outlets & maybe bung the stores man a box of beer he may
collect them for me. The outlet hose fits onto a connection with a butterfly
clip. On the inside of the machine is another connection fixture where the
same diameter pipe feeds from the WM tub. I reckon that connection fixture
holds the key to me being able to bodge together 20 m of pipe. It won't look
pretty but it will likely do the job, dependent on your answer to my
question above.

My wife may let me get away with a crap looking length of pipe but not
likely a big bin outside the window.

rob

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"George.com" wrote in message
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"Terryc" wrote in message
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George.com wrote:

I basically want to rig a bodge job for a few dollars. The outlet hose
is quite a bit bigger than a standard garden hose. I don't want to pay
much money for any hosing if possible. Unless I can get my hands on 20
odd lengths of the WM outlet hose & find a simple way of joining them I
think I may be stuck with a smaller diameter hose (like garden hose) &
some mechanism to have to narrow the diameter down. Bunnings here would
charge about $6 per metre length which runs out to around $100 bucks for
something that would do the back lawn. Too much for my liking. If you
have any bright ideas let me know. I will report back on my progress.


Using standard garden hose is not going to work, unless the washing
machine empties into a surge tub (laundry sink?). If you try and use the
wm pump to pump it that length, you will end up burning it out.


you mean the pump will burn out if I try to force water through a NARROWER
diameter pipe? Or it will burn out if I try & pump the water 20 odd metres
down the SAME diameter pipe?

Sounds like you are just goingto have to bite the bullet and buy stuff
unless yuou want to scavenge vacume cleaner hosing or such.


I had a look round this evening & reckon I can salvage the outlet hoses
from a range of second hand dumper washing machines. If I stop bye a
couple of the big whiteware outlets & maybe bung the stores man a box of
beer he may collect them for me. The outlet hose fits onto a connection
with a butterfly clip. On the inside of the machine is another connection
fixture where the same diameter pipe feeds from the WM tub. I reckon that
connection fixture holds the key to me being able to bodge together 20 m
of pipe. It won't look pretty but it will likely do the job, dependent on
your answer to my question above.

My wife may let me get away with a crap looking length of pipe but not
likely a big bin outside the window.

rob


What i mean is shown in this picture at top right. White outlet hose at the
bottom, black internal pipe heading off to the left of the picture. Both
pipes hook onto a double ended plastic fitting. If I can yank those out of
all the old dumper WM then it will allow me to connect up the lengths of
piping. Maybe $15 for a box of beer.
http://www.danielbowen.com/2006/05/1...shing-machine/



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George.com wrote:

What i mean is shown in this picture at top right. White outlet hose at
the bottom, black internal pipe heading off to the left of the picture.
Both pipes hook onto a double ended plastic fitting. If I can yank those
out of all the old dumper WM then it will allow me to connect up the
lengths of piping. Maybe $15 for a box of beer.
http://www.danielbowen.com/2006/05/1...shing-machine/


Hmm, what my real interest in your post was "a box of beer for $15" and
I don't drink.

Yer, they should be fine. You just have to work out how to join them.
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"Terryc" wrote in message
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George.com wrote:

What i mean is shown in this picture at top right. White outlet hose at
the bottom, black internal pipe heading off to the left of the picture.
Both pipes hook onto a double ended plastic fitting. If I can yank those
out of all the old dumper WM then it will allow me to connect up the
lengths of piping. Maybe $15 for a box of beer.
http://www.danielbowen.com/2006/05/1...shing-machine/


Hmm, what my real interest in your post was "a box of beer for $15" and I
don't drink.


cheap beer

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g'day rob,

the pipe i am talking about looks similar or like that white one
coming out of the bottom picture side of the pump.

not sure you can scavange enough to make a good length from older
washing machines? but might turn out not so dear to buy a length of
the other as you can afford it.

the washing machine pump isn't designed to pump water under lots of
pressure, so could be damaged if you try to make it do that ie.,. it
is not recommeneded to use the wash machine pump to pump water up a
long steep slope, using the pipe like i have is all for the same plain
or downhill.

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"len gardener" wrote in message
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g'day rob,

the pipe i am talking about looks similar or like that white one
coming out of the bottom picture side of the pump.

not sure you can scavange enough to make a good length from older
washing machines? but might turn out not so dear to buy a length of
the other as you can afford it.


you obviously don't know how cheap I can get Len.

the washing machine pump isn't designed to pump water under lots of
pressure, so could be damaged if you try to make it do that ie.,. it
is not recommeneded to use the wash machine pump to pump water up a
long steep slope, using the pipe like i have is all for the same plain
or downhill.



flat back garden with a drop off the deck down to the grass. The only height
will be pumping out the window & that is only slightly higher than the sink
pipe for the waste water. Should work ok I reckon.

rob

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George.com wrote:

you mean the pump will burn out if I try to force water through a
NARROWER diameter pipe? Or it will burn out if I try & pump the water 20
odd metres down the SAME diameter pipe?


Both. My understanding of WM pumps are that they are generally designed
to pump out the WM for a maximum head of about 1 metre, aka the height
of the generic laundry tub.


My wife may let me get away with a crap looking length of pipe but not
likely a big bin outside the window.


2nd hand laundry tub with a couple of water (or water loving) plants in
it in pots {:-).




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g'day rob,

just with the washing machine don't use a hose of lessor diameter than
that the machine already has. i bought 2 lengths of that stuff i
mentioned earlier and they push together to make one long length when
i need it.

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