Hi,
There might be some hobby grafters out there. My question is about the
understock. At the moment I have ~50 one and two year old maples growing
I started off from seed.Do they develop a larger stem (which of course I
need for grafting) with any attention like stem or leaf pruning?
Thanks
Wolf

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:08:45 +1100, (Martin) wrote:

Hi,
There might be some hobby grafters out there. My question is about the
understock. At the moment I have ~50 one and two year old maples growing
I started off from seed.Do they develop a larger stem (which of course I
need for grafting) with any attention like stem or leaf pruning?

Yes, they will thicken up on their own. It will take a while, though.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:08:45 +1100, (Martin) wrote:

Hi,
There might be some hobby grafters out there. My question is about the
understock. At the moment I have ~50 one and two year old maples growing
I started off from seed.Do they develop a larger stem (which of course I
need for grafting) with any attention like stem or leaf pruning?

Yes, they will thicken up on their own. It will take a while, though.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:08:45 +1100, (Martin) wrote:

Hi,
There might be some hobby grafters out there. My question is about the
understock. At the moment I have ~50 one and two year old maples growing
I started off from seed.Do they develop a larger stem (which of course I
need for grafting) with any attention like stem or leaf pruning?

Yes, they will thicken up on their own. It will take a while, though.

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G'day Martin,
You make it hard old mate, where are you, what type of
maple, and where are the maples; in individual pots, separate pots, or all
in one seed bed? My guess is your talking about Jap maples (Acer Palmatum),
or mountain maples as the Japs would call them.
If you want to force the maples on, then plant them in
the ground (after root pruning), and feed and water like mad. You will get
much quicker growth (not that Maples are ever quick), and once the cold
winter drives them dormant you can lift them, pot them, and graft them next
spring. You can even graft them while in the ground, and even give them
another season in the ground to grow on. You will not need much room, as you
can pack them in like onions if you know they will be lifted and root pruned
next season.

China
Wingham
NSW

--
G'day Martin,
You make it hard old mate, where are you, what type of
maple, and where are the maples; in individual pots, separate pots, or all
in one seed bed? My guess is your talking about Jap maples (Acer Palmatum),
or mountain maples as the Japs would call them.
If you want to force the maples on, then plant them in
the ground (after root pruning), and feed and water like mad. You will get
much quicker growth (not that Maples are ever quick), and once the cold
winter drives them dormant you can lift them, pot them, and graft them next
spring. You can even graft them while in the ground, and even give them
another season in the ground to grow on. You will not need much room, as you
can pack them in like onions if you know they will be lifted and root pruned
next season.

China
Wingham
NSW

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says...

--
G'day Martin,
You make it hard old mate, where are you, what type of
maple, and where are the maples; in individual pots, separate pots, or all
in one seed bed? My guess is your talking about Jap maples (Acer Palmatum),
or mountain maples as the Japs would call them.
If you want to force the maples on, then plant them in
the ground (after root pruning), and feed and water like mad. You will get
much quicker growth (not that Maples are ever quick), and once the cold
winter drives them dormant you can lift them, pot them, and graft them next
spring. You can even graft them while in the ground, and even give them
another season in the ground to grow on. You will not need much room, as you
can pack them in like onions if you know they will be lifted and root pruned
next season.

China
Wingham
NSW



Hi China,
I am in the Newcastle area,I am talking about Acer palmatum and being
"potty" I have them all in 12cm pots in water trays in part shade. If I
get you right, you suggest to put new seedlings in seed beds after true
leaves apear and leave them like onions until the stem is thick enough
for grafting? Would my 1 and 2 year old potted maples improve their stem
diameter by leaf or stem pruning?
In case you are an expert I have one more question about Taiwanese Maples
( god knows the latin name )? The seeds seem to be brown and ripe
already. Should I start putting them in Spaghnum Moss and the fridge
already?
Wolf

In article ,
says...

--
G'day Martin,
You make it hard old mate, where are you, what type of
maple, and where are the maples; in individual pots, separate pots, or all
in one seed bed? My guess is your talking about Jap maples (Acer Palmatum),
or mountain maples as the Japs would call them.
If you want to force the maples on, then plant them in
the ground (after root pruning), and feed and water like mad. You will get
much quicker growth (not that Maples are ever quick), and once the cold
winter drives them dormant you can lift them, pot them, and graft them next
spring. You can even graft them while in the ground, and even give them
another season in the ground to grow on. You will not need much room, as you
can pack them in like onions if you know they will be lifted and root pruned
next season.

China
Wingham
NSW



Hi China,
I am in the Newcastle area,I am talking about Acer palmatum and being
"potty" I have them all in 12cm pots in water trays in part shade. If I
get you right, you suggest to put new seedlings in seed beds after true
leaves apear and leave them like onions until the stem is thick enough
for grafting? Would my 1 and 2 year old potted maples improve their stem
diameter by leaf or stem pruning?
In case you are an expert I have one more question about Taiwanese Maples
( god knows the latin name )? The seeds seem to be brown and ripe
already. Should I start putting them in Spaghnum Moss and the fridge
already?
Wolf

In article ,
says...

--
G'day Martin,
You make it hard old mate, where are you, what type of
maple, and where are the maples; in individual pots, separate pots, or all
in one seed bed? My guess is your talking about Jap maples (Acer Palmatum),
or mountain maples as the Japs would call them.
If you want to force the maples on, then plant them in
the ground (after root pruning), and feed and water like mad. You will get
much quicker growth (not that Maples are ever quick), and once the cold
winter drives them dormant you can lift them, pot them, and graft them next
spring. You can even graft them while in the ground, and even give them
another season in the ground to grow on. You will not need much room, as you
can pack them in like onions if you know they will be lifted and root pruned
next season.

China
Wingham
NSW



Hi China,
I am in the Newcastle area,I am talking about Acer palmatum and being
"potty" I have them all in 12cm pots in water trays in part shade. If I
get you right, you suggest to put new seedlings in seed beds after true
leaves apear and leave them like onions until the stem is thick enough
for grafting? Would my 1 and 2 year old potted maples improve their stem
diameter by leaf or stem pruning?
In case you are an expert I have one more question about Taiwanese Maples
( god knows the latin name )? The seeds seem to be brown and ripe
already. Should I start putting them in Spaghnum Moss and the fridge
already?
Wolf

In article ,
says...

--
G'day Martin,
You make it hard old mate, where are you, what type of
maple, and where are the maples; in individual pots, separate pots, or all
in one seed bed? My guess is your talking about Jap maples (Acer Palmatum),
or mountain maples as the Japs would call them.
If you want to force the maples on, then plant them in
the ground (after root pruning), and feed and water like mad. You will get
much quicker growth (not that Maples are ever quick), and once the cold
winter drives them dormant you can lift them, pot them, and graft them next
spring. You can even graft them while in the ground, and even give them
another season in the ground to grow on. You will not need much room, as you
can pack them in like onions if you know they will be lifted and root pruned
next season.

China
Wingham
NSW



Hi China,
I am in the Newcastle area,I am talking about Acer palmatum and being
"potty" I have them all in 12cm pots in water trays in part shade. If I
get you right, you suggest to put new seedlings in seed beds after true
leaves apear and leave them like onions until the stem is thick enough
for grafting? Would my 1 and 2 year old potted maples improve their stem
diameter by leaf or stem pruning?
In case you are an expert I have one more question about Taiwanese Maples
( god knows the latin name )? The seeds seem to be brown and ripe
already. Should I start putting them in Spaghnum Moss and the fridge
already?
Wolf

--
G'day Martin,
I'm no expert, but I once studied under someone who
was. With your potential rootstock, what you want is to force as much growth
up through the main stem as you can before they go dormant, so I would be
wary of any pruning above where you hope to make the grafts except to keep
them to a single trunk. You may want to clear growth up to the desired graft
height, but not so as to slow them down. Feed them up with nitrogen and
don't worry to much about shape as you will probably be pruning them back
hard to just a few inches high when you are ready to graft. This chap had
years of experience and I've seen him graft thin little seedlings only a few
months old. Once he demonstrated grafting with a Camellia seedling that only
had just sent up its first 2 seedling leaves, then he cut of its little tap
root, grafted and struck it in the same pot. Amazing stuff, it still had the
seed case attached. So you don't really need much diameter, just practice.
He recommended cold treatment for cool climate maples, about 3 months in the
fridge if I recall. So I would go ahead with next spring in mind. Good luck
and let us know how you go. What are you going to do with all those plants?

China
Wingham
NSW