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[IBC] the Kingsville which is not
Hello friends in bonsai -
In searching for an answer for the true botanical name of the cultivar we call 'Kingsville' boxwood, I was fortunate enough to be directed to Lynn Batdorf at the US Natl. Arboretum. He's the curator of the boxwood collection there, the registrar of cultivar names, the author of the Boxwood Handbook, and just pretty much the ultimate arbitor for such a question. Also, he was kind enough to give a thorough history of the so-called Kingsville box, and asked me to pass it on to you. I do so here to the list as well as to the IBC Gallery where the question originally arose, knowing that the readership of the two doesn't entirely overlap. Apologies to anyone who gets it twice. Anita (who, I have to admit, still calls her 'Compacta' boxes Kingsville in moments of forgetfullness) from Lynn Batdorf: Yes, probably the entire bonsai community incorrectly uses the name Buxus microphylla /Kingsville/ and /Kingsville Dwarf/ when referring to'Compacta'. I'm very glad to set the record straight for you. Buxus microphylla 'Compacta' was registered by Dr. Donald Wyman in his 1963 article "Boxwood Prized Where Ever Hardy Form is Found" which appeared in the 117(7):50 issue of American Nurseryman. Henry Hohman had showed the plant to Wyman who went on to register it. It originated as a seedling selected by William Appleby of Baltimore in 1912. When Appleby died in the 1920's, Hohman bought the boxwood seedlings and began propagating them. 'Compacta' was released to the trade in 1937. At the suggestion of Dr. Wyman then of the Arnold Arboretum in Massachusetts, Hohman originally named the plant Buxus microphylla var. compacta. Growing very slowly with small leaves and treelike branching has made 'Compacta' a prefect and popular choice for bonsai. The first 'Compacta' used for bonsai originated from the Kingsville Nursery in Kingsville, Maryland, thus using the source as a name, bonsai enthusiasts call it /Kingsville/ or /Kingsville Dwarf/. The named selected by Hohman (B. microphylla var. compacta) is a synonym for B. microphylla 'Compacta'. /Kingsville/ and /Kingsville Dwarf/ are also a synonym for B. microphylla 'Compacta'. I would be grateful if you could pass this registration information on to the larger bonsai community. I find it quite unfortunate to see such a beautiful bonsai specimen as 'Compacta' repeatedly and incorrectly named as either /Kingsville/ or /Kingsville Dwarf/. As a point of interest, your nurseryman in Kingsville is correct. Also, as you correctly noted, 'Compacta' does throw sports of its own, having given rise to several other registered boxwood cultivars that are stable: 'Curly Locks', 'Grace Hendrick Phillips', 'Helen Whiting', 'Henry Hohman', and 'Sunlight'. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, Lynn R. Batdorf International Cultivar Registration Authority for Buxus U.S. National Arboretum ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] the Kingsville which is not
Jim Lewis wrote:
Thanks, Anita. It's nice having such a tremendous resource as the National Arboretum in the "neighborhood," I bet. I'd guess he's not the only "Authority" on the staff. Does anyone care to place any bets as to whether this information -- no matter how widely disseminated -- will change anything in what bonsaiests call this plant? I don't. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - VEGETARIAN: An Indian word meaning "lousy hunter." (Borrowed from a sig by fellow listowner, Scott Peterson) Sorta like calling a photocoper a "Xerox" machine or tape "Scotch" tape even though both of those are name brands for a product. There isn't any way all of society will make that change or will see the need to do so. I will try to be more correct in my usage, but it will be an uphill climb and I don't have the energy for the battle. More important things to worry about. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] the Kingsville which is not
There is nothing wrong with calling it "Kingsville boxwood." Everybody does; it
is a colloquial name. But your label, and the label at a show, should also read Buxus microphylla 'Compacta.' Same as "Blue Moss Cypress" Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Boulevard.' There are a lot of such things, people, too. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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[IBC] the Kingsville which is not
Iris Cohen wrote:
There is nothing wrong with calling it "Kingsville boxwood." Everybody does; it is a colloquial name. But your label, and the label at a show, should also read Buxus microphylla 'Compacta.' Same as "Blue Moss Cypress" Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Boulevard.' There are a lot of such things, people, too. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) I guess that's the way I'm looking at it. "Kingsville" is a common name, not a scientific one. In a display, as Iris has indicated, it should have the scientific name as well as the common name. A parallel word usage is the "title" used for my profession "Reverend." This word is an adjective, as in "The Rev. Craig L. Cowing." I am not a "reverend." It is not a noun. However, people are always going to use the word in that way and I do not have the energy to constantly correct them. There are more important battles to fight. In the case of Holman's contribution by developing this marvelous cultivar, by using the scientific name when displaying the plant that's probably enough. The Kingsville nursery, after all, did have a part to play in this by introducing this cultivar as a subject for bonsai cultivation. When things are around long enough they leave the hand that brought them into the world. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] the Kingsville which is not
Thanks for the research Anita.
Whew! I can sleep now! :) I agree with Jim and Craig. Probably won't change anything. I'll probably still call them "Kingsvilles" along with everyone else and I can get back to worrying about multiple car payments! Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Cowing" To: Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [IBC] the Kingsville which is not Jim Lewis wrote: Thanks, Anita. It's nice having such a tremendous resource as the National Arboretum in the "neighborhood," I bet. I'd guess he's not the only "Authority" on the staff. Does anyone care to place any bets as to whether this information -- no matter how widely disseminated -- will change anything in what bonsaiests call this plant? I don't. Jim Lewis - Sorta like calling a photocoper a "Xerox" machine or tape "Scotch" tape even though both of those are name brands for a product. There isn't any way all of society will make that change or will see the need to do so. I will try to be more correct in my usage, but it will be an uphill climb and I don't have the energy for the battle. More important things to worry about. Craig Cowing ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] the Kingsville which is not
In a message dated 11/5/2003 7:52:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes: The named selected by Hohman (B. microphylla var. compacta) is a synonym for B. microphylla 'Compacta'. /Kingsville/ and /Kingsville Dwarf/ are also a synonym for B. microphylla 'Compacta'. I would be grateful if you could pass this registration information on to the larger bonsai community. I find it quite unfortunate to see such a beautiful bonsai specimen as 'Compacta' repeatedly and incorrectly named as either /Kingsville/ or /Kingsville Dwarf/. Michael Dirr refers to Kingsville as Buxus microphylla 'Kingsville Dwarf' (var. japonica form). Anita, can you send me a direct number for Lynn. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob/index.html ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] the Kingsville which is not
Jim Lewis wrote:
Thanks, Anita. Does anyone care to place any bets as to whether this information -- no matter how widely disseminated -- will change anything in what bonsaiests call this plant? Jim, sad to say, you are probably right. Nevertheless, I think the information that Anita provided should be disseminated as widely as possible, say through club journals and news letters and maybe even be published by major bonsai magazines, such as International BONSAI, The Journal of the ABS, etc.. So, I'd like to be the first (?) to get it published in the Toronto (TBS) journal. Whose permission would I have to get to quote Anita's quote? Credit, of course, would be given. John ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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