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13-01-2004, 09:02 PM
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[IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief
I find little relief from the skin on my knuckles drying, cracking & peeling
in large, unsightly, oozing patches (... I apologize for the graphic detail...) after working on bonsai or on landscape plants even a short while. I live with it, but my doctor and pharmacist both recommend for treatment of the condition an externally applied steroid cream-- and the pharmist recommends an anti-fungal cream, additionally. The after-the-fact "doctoring" of disrupted skin with external creme application takes three days to accomplish healing. Have others found a better solution-- hopefully preventative? Best wishes, Chris... C. Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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13-01-2004, 09:13 PM
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[IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief
I find little relief from the skin on my knuckles drying,
cracking & peeling in large, unsightly, oozing patches (... I apologize for the graphic detail...) after working on bonsai or on landscape plants even a short while. I live with it, but my doctor and pharmacist both recommend for treatment of the condition an externally applied steroid cream-- and the pharmist recommends an anti-fungal cream, additionally. The after-the-fact "doctoring" of disrupted skin with external creme application takes three days to accomplish healing. Have others found a better solution-- hopefully preventative? 1. Preventative: Those thin rubber gloves that doctors, dentists, and almost anyone else who has to touch another human being on a regular basis these days. They don't feel it, but they're fairly puncture proof and they are like a second skin and allow you to do everything you can do otherwise with bare hands. You can buy a box of 100 for not much money. 2. Immediately after the fact: A potent anti-inflammatory skin cream. Bag Balm or Udder Cream (both made for cow and goat teats that get irritated) are excellent. I find that the Burt's Bees hand salve (beeswax and something stinky) help hands that are already irritated. 3. Regular dosing with an antihistamine may also help keep you from getting such a severe reaction, but I suspect you've tried that. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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13-01-2004, 09:13 PM
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[IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief
Chris Cochrane wrote:
I find little relief from the skin on my knuckles drying, cracking & peeling in large, unsightly, oozing patches (... I apologize for the graphic detail...) after working on bonsai or on landscape plants even a short while. I live with it, but my doctor and pharmacist both recommend for treatment of the condition an externally applied steroid cream-- and the pharmist recommends an anti-fungal cream, additionally. The after-the-fact "doctoring" of disrupted skin with external creme application takes three days to accomplish healing. Have others found a better solution-- hopefully preventative? Best wishes, Chris... C. Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA Bag Balm works for me during the winter when it's very cold and my hands get really dry and cracked. I also use it on rashes and minor cuts and it works pretty well. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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13-01-2004, 09:33 PM
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[IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief
1. Preventative: Those thin rubber gloves that doctors,
dentists, and almost anyone else who has to touch another human being on a regular basis these days. Yeah, even plant pathologists. But use nitrile, not latex, because long-term use of latex gloves can give you a latex allergy, which is worse than what you have now. My condolences, Chris. I got swollen hands from handing squash vines; happily, I don't do that in my new job. -Nina PS- double D'oh! I never thought of fukein tea either. This person will have to identify the plant better. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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14-01-2004, 04:32 AM
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[IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief
From: Chris Cochrane
Subject: [IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief I find little relief from the skin on my knuckles drying, cracking & peeling in large, unsightly, oozing patches (... I apologize for the graphic detail...) after working on bonsai or on landscape plants even a short while. Chris, Not an uncommon gardeners complaint and you can hear lots of ways different people approach it that could work. I find the most comfortable for me, advised by my doctor, was to rub a moisturizing cream, best known is Eucerin, generously into my skin - I hate to work with gloves. Moisturizing and an oil protect the skin naturally. It will certainly hasten a cure, too, so after washing hands use it to continue a healthy skin conditioning, or use it overnight. I use it under gloves, too, if it is a job with junipers or similar scratchy foliage. Btw, Eucerin is not one of those expensive big names, but a long known and appreciated product. Lynn Lynn Boyd, Oregon USA Zone 7-8 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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14-01-2004, 05:12 AM
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[IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief
Chris.
You are on the right track. While moisturizing creams help, the real problem is often not "dry skin" but a side effect of a fungus or germ that loves the dry condition. I raised this question on the ABS web a year or two ago, and got this info from a doctor. I had raised the question about skin splitting when I was wiring with heavy wire. It just seemed to"pop" under the pressure. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Cochrane" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: [IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief I find little relief from the skin on my knuckles drying, cracking & peeling in large, unsightly, oozing patches (... I apologize for the graphic detail...) after working on bonsai or on landscape plants even a short while. I live with it, but my doctor and pharmacist both recommend for treatment of the condition an externally applied steroid cream-- and the pharmist recommends an anti-fungal cream, additionally. The after-the-fact "doctoring" of disrupted skin with external creme application takes three days to accomplish healing. Have others found a better solution-- hopefully preventative? Best wishes, Chris... C. Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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16-01-2004, 01:38 AM
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[IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief
What a great mail list! Thanks to all the folks who generously responded
re' my skin condition. You have offered more (and potentially more effective!) alternatives to hand care than I had imagined were available. The most unexpected response was from a bonsai entusiast that makes his own "dynamite lavendar handlotion." He generously offered to send me some halfway across the country. Thanks for that great offer. I need to develop a renewable product for these battered hands. How did bonsai enthusiasts from Florida to Canada learned about salves for cow thingies? It appears that "Bag Balm" isn't available in Europe or Asia. I found another praised product developed there, but also readily available here. I did LOTS of internet browsing after some surprising (to me) suggestions & learned a bit which supported advice given in by IBCers. The usually critical "eOpinions" site turned-out to list a series of testamonials to "Bag Balm," unexpectedly in the product category "lip gloss." This greasy stuff is used by many for a wide variety of uses including diaper rashes, sunburn, & foot softening. An author facetiously suggested it could be used along with duct tape for chainsaw accidents. The country singer Shania Twain uses it as part of her skin care regimen. I wondered if cows EVER get it as a treatment; then, I found an livestock products vendor sells it in 4 1/2 pound pails. Since CraigC & more than one physician read the list, I better add that it is not advised medically or spiritually for human healings by the FDA. No other product has quite the zealous following of "Bag Balm," but Neutrogena Handcream "formulated for use by Norwegian fishermen" comes close. A respondent to my handcare crisis noted her husband (a carpenter) uses Udder Cream, Bag Balm and Cornhuskers. I found Cornhuskers lotion (like Neutrogena Handcream) primarily relies on glycerin, and it is VERY reasonable. Udder creams abound, but the Udderly Smooth cream product seems most widely advertised & found even in my local Walmart-- unlike Bag Balm... :-(. Utterly Smooth is water-based and does not stain fabrics; thus, it is the choice of knitters & cross-stitchers for moisturizing-- in case you are bonsai-ing seamstress... :-). A local saddlery store had "Udder Delight" cream that dutifully described its use for livestock, but its ingredients suggest a salon item and it was priced accordingly... :-( .. Nurses wash their hands constantly, and I guess the drying action causes similar problems to working in soil. One warned to not mix handlotion oils with wearing latex gloves because the latex breaks down (you don't lubricate condoms with oil for a similar reason). If latex breaks-down on oiled skin you risk a dangerous latex allergy. Nina's suggested disposable nitrile gloves seem a good answer. Nitrile gloves of 3 mils have superior tensile strength and puncture resistance to 5 mil latex or PVC gloves. My doctor thinks Eucerin cream improves skin dryness including severe dryness of hands. I find that Eucerine cream has little, if any, effect. I hope one of these suggestions works. Thanks for many responses on and off the list. Very best wishes, Chris... C.Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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16-01-2004, 07:12 AM
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[IBC] Fw: Allergy (Eczema?) Relief
Hi Why don't you try Aloes Barbadensis Miller
Theo Chris Cochrane wrote: What a great mail list! Thanks to all the folks who generously responded re' my skin condition. You have offered more (and potentially more effective!) alternatives to hand care than I had imagined were available. The most unexpected response was from a bonsai entusiast that makes his own "dynamite lavendar handlotion." He generously offered to send me some halfway across the country. Thanks for that great offer. I need to develop a renewable product for these battered hands. How did bonsai enthusiasts from Florida to Canada learned about salves for cow thingies? It appears that "Bag Balm" isn't available in Europe or Asia. I found another praised product developed there, but also readily available here. I did LOTS of internet browsing after some surprising (to me) suggestions & learned a bit which supported advice given in by IBCers. The usually critical "eOpinions" site turned-out to list a series of testamonials to "Bag Balm," unexpectedly in the product category "lip gloss." This greasy stuff is used by many for a wide variety of uses including diaper rashes, sunburn, & foot softening. An author facetiously suggested it could be used along with duct tape for chainsaw accidents. The country singer Shania Twain uses it as part of her skin care regimen. I wondered if cows EVER get it as a treatment; then, I found an livestock products vendor sells it in 4 1/2 pound pails. Since CraigC & more than one physician read the list, I better add that it is not advised medically or spiritually for human healings by the FDA. No other product has quite the zealous following of "Bag Balm," but Neutrogena Handcream "formulated for use by Norwegian fishermen" comes close. A respondent to my handcare crisis noted her husband (a carpenter) uses Udder Cream, Bag Balm and Cornhuskers. I found Cornhuskers lotion (like Neutrogena Handcream) primarily relies on glycerin, and it is VERY reasonable. Udder creams abound, but the Udderly Smooth cream product seems most widely advertised & found even in my local Walmart-- unlike Bag Balm... :-(. Utterly Smooth is water-based and does not stain fabrics; thus, it is the choice of knitters & cross-stitchers for moisturizing-- in case you are bonsai-ing seamstress... :-). A local saddlery store had "Udder Delight" cream that dutifully described its use for livestock, but its ingredients suggest a salon item and it was priced accordingly... :-( . Nurses wash their hands constantly, and I guess the drying action causes similar problems to working in soil. One warned to not mix handlotion oils with wearing latex gloves because the latex breaks down (you don't lubricate condoms with oil for a similar reason). If latex breaks-down on oiled skin you risk a dangerous latex allergy. Nina's suggested disposable nitrile gloves seem a good answer. Nitrile gloves of 3 mils have superior tensile strength and puncture resistance to 5 mil latex or PVC gloves. My doctor thinks Eucerin cream improves skin dryness including severe dryness of hands. I find that Eucerine cream has little, if any, effect. I hope one of these suggestions works. Thanks for many responses on and off the list. Very best wishes, Chris... C.Cochrane, , Richmond VA USA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mark Zimmerman++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ -- S.O.S.Bonsai Un rapido ed efficace aiuto online contatta: or or ICQ 25 666 169 4 my bonsais: http://groups.msn.com/BonsaiItalia/i...nw?albumlist=2 Membro di : Internet Bonsai Society. I.B.S USA; Federazione Francese dei Bonsai F.F.B Ecole Européenne Bonsai France, E.E.B.F ;Federation Romanda Bonsai et Jardinage(F.R.J.B) |
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