Greetings...

Yes, Vitamin again :-)
Sory to bring this back... most of the messages I see here about this told
that plants cannot absorb vitamins, for some time I really went for it, it
had some logic in the explanations... but today I read the following site
http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglib...asil.ptIIId.ht
ml
So... it seems that plants do absorb vitamin B1!!!!
Is there a diferent opinion? Is there some site that goes against this
studie?

Thanks


Pedro Amorim Pereira _ Porto - Portugal

http://amorimpereira.no.sapo.pt
http://www.geocities.com/pedropereira.geo

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The basis of this claim is

Academy of Sciences of the USSR
Institute of Microbiology

N. A. Krasil'nikov

SOIL
MICROORGANISMS
AND
HIGHER PLANTS

Published by the Academy of Sciences of the USSR

Moscow 1958

I am sorry but I would want to see this replicated in the last 46
years. A lot of bogus research came out of the old USSR.


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The basis of this claim is

Academy of Sciences of the USSR
Institute of Microbiology

Published by the Academy of Sciences of the USSR

Moscow 1958

I am sorry but I would want to see this replicated in
the last 46
years. A lot of bogus research came out of the old USSR.

I too would like to really see good research that shows something
definitive. The jury seems to be out on the benefits of B-1, but
I suspect we may end up with a hung jury.

It was touted hard in the 30s, then later studies seemed to
indicate that vitamin B actually had a negative reaction for
plant growth. Other studies later leaned the other way (but too
many of these were by companies that were pushing magical
horticultural elixirs -- like Stuporthrive).

I think it was Nina that last sent me info on fairly recent
studies that seemed to say that it _may_ do some good in some
situations (which ones escape me now) but weren't really
definitive -- to me -- when I read them.

Intuitively, however, I have to lean away from it being a magic
bullet for plants. Plants MAKE vitamins. Animals USE them.

But I have to admit to using Roots Plus on ailing plants and it
has v-B in it -- along with other stuff -- though I have yet to
see any real obvious results from it. No horticultural
resurrections, yet.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Blessed
statistics: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville!
Population: 2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL =
6850

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Please excuse the late reply to this topic. I looked at the site that Pedro
supplied the link for, and if one reads carefully, the only thing they are
saying there is that the plants absorbed the vitamin B1. I don't doubt that
their conclusion is valid as far as it goes. What the real question is, and
what they didn't study is, does that vitamin B1 that the plants have
absorbed do them any good? That is what other studies have addressed, and
they have apparently shown mixed results, but it seems they tend to show no
benefit.

Regards,
Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or maybe Zone 6.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it,
and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx (1895-1977)



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro A.Pereira"
To:
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:40 PM
Subject: [IBC] Vitamin B1


Greetings...

Yes, Vitamin again :-)
Sory to bring this back... most of the messages I see here about this told
that plants cannot absorb vitamins, for some time I really went for it, it
had some logic in the explanations... but today I read the following site

http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglib...asil.ptIIId.ht
ml
So... it seems that plants do absorb vitamin B1!!!!
Is there a diferent opinion? Is there some site that goes against this
studie?


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I don't doubt that
their conclusion is valid as far as it goes. What the real question is, and
what they didn't study is, does that vitamin B1 that the plants have
absorbed do them any good? That is what other studies have addressed, and
they have apparently shown mixed results, but it seems they tend to show no
benefit.

There's also the point that plants make their own vitamins; the question is whether B-1 in *addition* to their endogenous supply does any good.

Nina

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