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[IBC] Collected (butchered) elm update
Hey everyone, the support and encouragement from everyone has been
amazing, thank you all so much for your input. Here's the plan I decided to go with (a mash of suggestions and a nice pinch of gut feeling thrown in) My gut told me to treat it like a cutting I was trying to root, so the setup is basically that, with provisions made to try and keep the roots on it alive. -soaked remaining roots with superthrive -nebari/trunk split wrapped snuggly with raffia (clean) -slightly oversized training pot -frankenstiened plastic bag mini greenhouse enclosure (with some ventilation) -damp soil (closer to dry than wet) -tree is in bright but constant shade It's day 3 since the poor thing was ripped from the ground, and so far no leaves have dropped, changed color, or wilted. I have 2 questions, 1 if the tree's going to die, how soon would I know? If there appears to be no change (it still looks healthy) for say... 2 weeks, can i assume it's going to make it (with proper pampering/care)? and 2, any more thoughts about fertilizing? should I continue treatment with superthrive? Thanks, Justin ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Collected (butchered) elm update
I have 2 questions, 1 if the tree's going to die, how soon
would I know? If there appears to be no change (it still looks healthy) for say... 2 weeks, can i assume it's going to make it (with proper pampering/care)? and 2, any more thoughts about fertilizing? should I continue treatment with superthrive? That looks like 3 questions to me, so I charge double (though I probably shouldn't charge for my Superthrive response) ;-). 1. and 1 a. You'll know when you will know. It depends on how healthy the tree was to begin with and how much reserve energy it has stored in whatever is left of the tree. A couple of weeks should result in SOME change, but I have had damaged trees sprout entire branches only to die later. They'll TRY to survive so their genes stay in the pool, but sometimes there's not enough . .. . 2. As for the Superthrive, if you already have paid good money for the bottle, you can still use it, but the more-or-less scientific info _I_ have read about S-thrive indicates that what few of its ingredients are actually known may really have an INHIBITING effect on roots. It _probably_ won't hurt. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Collected (butchered) elm update
Justin,
Elms are a bit wierd in the survial game. I got some cedar elm roots in February or March. I cut them up in to 3" pieces, stuck them in pearlite and waited for sprouting. Two sprouted right away and one just sprouted yesterday. I will wait until July before I declare the remainder dead. If you have roots and the leaves do fall off, check to see if the bark starts to whither. If not, just hang on until you see signs of bud swell. Remember it is a tree and it will think, but considerable much slower than you do. Kitsune Miko --- Justin Diaz wrote: Hey everyone, the support and encouragement from everyone has been amazing, thank you all so much for your input. Here's the plan I decided to go with (a mash of suggestions and a nice pinch of gut feeling thrown in) My gut told me to treat it like a cutting I was trying to root, so the setup is basically that, with provisions made to try and keep the roots on it alive. -soaked remaining roots with superthrive -nebari/trunk split wrapped snuggly with raffia (clean) -slightly oversized training pot -frankenstiened plastic bag mini greenhouse enclosure (with some ventilation) -damp soil (closer to dry than wet) -tree is in bright but constant shade It's day 3 since the poor thing was ripped from the ground, and so far no leaves have dropped, changed color, or wilted. I have 2 questions, 1 if the tree's going to die, how soon would I know? If there appears to be no change (it still looks healthy) for say... 2 weeks, can i assume it's going to make it (with proper pampering/care)? and 2, any more thoughts about fertilizing? should I continue treatment with superthrive? Thanks, Justin ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ===== Besides learning to see, there is another art to be learned -- not to see what is not The eye that directs the needle in the delicate meshes of embroidery will equally well bisect a star with the spider web of the micrometer. M. Mitchell We cannot take anything for granted, beyond the first mathematical formulae. Quetion everything else. Maria Mitchell, scientist, astronomer, suffragette ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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