HI

Iris Cohen wrote:

I normally give some microelements mixed with the repotting soil and
sometimes I sprinkle some this period of the year on the surface but when is
the best period and how often shouldl micro elements be given to the bonsai?


Why would you give fertilizer at this time of year, except to indoor bonsai?
microelements are NOT fertilizers
are Iron Cupper Sulphur Molibedenum Barium Zinc
the lack of some of tehse elements provocke chlorosis or malformation
in new growth ins pering or stains on leaves
are very importanta
and often are given togetehr with the Japanese cakes
S correct the soil acidity if is too alkaline because of calcar

Many fertilizers nowadays contain trace elements, including Miracid, Dyna-Gro,
& some of Peters.
in teh States :-) yes not here
Your best bet is to rotate among several different brands, &
I do with the brands I am used to

make sure you give a fertilizer with trace elements about once a month during
the growing season. I don't bother with those organic cakes or other
concoctions, but I found the plants seem to like fish fertilizer and seaweed
extract.
still have som fish emulsion I bought in the States but I coudl not
find last time I was teher few years ago so probaly I need to orde
trought the net
I feed Neptune's Harvest about once a month. Just watch out for
yellowjackets when you use it outdoors.
hard to find Algae in the fertilizers here
Thanks

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On 21 Nov 2004 at 17:25, Theo wrote:

Why would you give fertilizer at this time of year, except to indoor bonsai?


microelements are NOT fertilizers

Yes they are.


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Jim Lewis wrote:

On 21 Nov 2004 at 17:25, Theo wrote:


Why would you give fertilizer at this time of year, except to indoor bonsai?



microelements are NOT fertilizers


Yes they are.
fertilizers are NPK
microelements are F S CU b MB ZN
the amazing thing is that we take the same, and in case of deficency
we get as sick ( our way ) as plants
but we do not get noureshed with oligo elements only nor with vitamins

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On 22 Nov 2004 at 23:04, Theo wrote:

Jim Lewis wrote:

On 21 Nov 2004 at 17:25, Theo wrote:


Why would you give fertilizer at this time of year, except to indoor bonsai?



microelements are NOT fertilizers


Yes they are.
fertilizers are NPK
microelements are F S CU b MB ZN
the amazing thing is that we take the same, and in case of deficency
we get as sick ( our way ) as plants
but we do not get noureshed with oligo elements only nor with vitamins

I don't want to beat a dead horse, Theo, but you seem intent of
doing what you want to do anyway, but "fertilizer" is defined
simply as "a substance used to make soil more fertile."
Fertility is: "capable of sustaining abundant plant growth."

To grow, plants need NPK and ALL of the trace elements (and
there are a few more than those you list). Those are found in
good fertilizers. Poor fertilizers only have NPK.

However, define it as you will.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Hi Jim
Jim Lewis wrote:


I don't want to beat a dead horse, Theo, but you seem intent of
doing what you want to do anyway, but "fertilizer" is defined
simply as "a substance used to make soil more fertile."
Fertility is: "capable of sustaining abundant plant growth."

I agree with you seen under this point of view yes are fertilizers


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Hi Jim
Jim Lewis wrote:


I don't want to beat a dead horse, Theo, but you seem intent of
doing what you want to do anyway, but "fertilizer" is defined
simply as "a substance used to make soil more fertile."
Fertility is: "capable of sustaining abundant plant growth."

I agree with you seen under this point of view yes are fertilizers


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On 22 Nov 2004 at 23:04, Theo wrote:

Jim Lewis wrote:

On 21 Nov 2004 at 17:25, Theo wrote:


Why would you give fertilizer at this time of year, except to indoor bonsai?



microelements are NOT fertilizers


Yes they are.
fertilizers are NPK
microelements are F S CU b MB ZN
the amazing thing is that we take the same, and in case of deficency
we get as sick ( our way ) as plants
but we do not get noureshed with oligo elements only nor with vitamins

I don't want to beat a dead horse, Theo, but you seem intent of
doing what you want to do anyway, but "fertilizer" is defined
simply as "a substance used to make soil more fertile."
Fertility is: "capable of sustaining abundant plant growth."

To grow, plants need NPK and ALL of the trace elements (and
there are a few more than those you list). Those are found in
good fertilizers. Poor fertilizers only have NPK.

However, define it as you will.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Jim Lewis wrote:

On 21 Nov 2004 at 17:25, Theo wrote:


Why would you give fertilizer at this time of year, except to indoor bonsai?



microelements are NOT fertilizers


Yes they are.
fertilizers are NPK
microelements are F S CU b MB ZN
the amazing thing is that we take the same, and in case of deficency
we get as sick ( our way ) as plants
but we do not get noureshed with oligo elements only nor with vitamins

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On 21 Nov 2004 at 17:25, Theo wrote:

Why would you give fertilizer at this time of year, except to indoor bonsai?


microelements are NOT fertilizers

Yes they are.


Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests
are like genealogists: We know our roots!

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