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03-01-2005, 10:51 AM
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[IBC] Sago & Jade Bonsai
Taking both your questions together.
Sago is not a traditional Bonsai. It is a cycad and as such a monocot, which means it grows only from the tip and doesn't branch. ( They will rarely form two growth points if the tip is damaged and mature plants will produce pups from the base) Cycads were around for the dinosaurs to feed on, so by nature are very hardy plants. Give it plenty of light and don't let it freeze. Since you indicate this plant is in its original pot and soil, if there are rocks on the surface, remove them and replace the soil with store bought soil, not soil from the yard. Most plants should be watered when the soil dries out, as opposed to a regular schedule. The Jade doesn't like to be over watered and needs a lot of light also. If it is soft and mushy it is not going to make it, but if the trunk is still firm, cut your watering to when the soil is really dry, not just on top, and it might make it. Neither plant needs a lot of fertilizer and probably a liquid house plant fertilizer, applied according to package directions, one a month or so is more than enough. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-01-2005, 10:51 AM
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Taking both your questions together.
Sago is not a traditional Bonsai. It is a cycad and as such a monocot, which means it grows only from the tip and doesn't branch. ( They will rarely form two growth points if the tip is damaged and mature plants will produce pups from the base) Cycads were around for the dinosaurs to feed on, so by nature are very hardy plants. Give it plenty of light and don't let it freeze. Since you indicate this plant is in its original pot and soil, if there are rocks on the surface, remove them and replace the soil with store bought soil, not soil from the yard. Most plants should be watered when the soil dries out, as opposed to a regular schedule. The Jade doesn't like to be over watered and needs a lot of light also. If it is soft and mushy it is not going to make it, but if the trunk is still firm, cut your watering to when the soil is really dry, not just on top, and it might make it. Neither plant needs a lot of fertilizer and probably a liquid house plant fertilizer, applied according to package directions, one a month or so is more than enough. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-01-2005, 03:11 PM
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Thanks Billy, I appericate the information.
Dali Billy M. Rhodes wrote: Taking both your questions together. Sago is not a traditional Bonsai. It is a cycad and as such a monocot, which means it grows only from the tip and doesn't branch. ( They will rarely form two growth points if the tip is damaged and mature plants will produce pups from the base) Cycads were around for the dinosaurs to feed on, so by nature are very hardy plants. Give it plenty of light and don't let it freeze. Since you indicate this plant is in its original pot and soil, if there are rocks on the surface, remove them and replace the soil with store bought soil, not soil from the yard. Most plants should be watered when the soil dries out, as opposed to a regular schedule. The Jade doesn't like to be over watered and needs a lot of light also. If it is soft and mushy it is not going to make it, but if the trunk is still firm, cut your watering to when the soil is really dry, not just on top, and it might make it. Neither plant needs a lot of fertilizer and probably a liquid house plant fertilizer, applied according to package directions, one a month or so is more than enough. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-01-2005, 03:11 PM
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Thanks Billy, I appericate the information.
Dali Billy M. Rhodes wrote: Taking both your questions together. Sago is not a traditional Bonsai. It is a cycad and as such a monocot, which means it grows only from the tip and doesn't branch. ( They will rarely form two growth points if the tip is damaged and mature plants will produce pups from the base) Cycads were around for the dinosaurs to feed on, so by nature are very hardy plants. Give it plenty of light and don't let it freeze. Since you indicate this plant is in its original pot and soil, if there are rocks on the surface, remove them and replace the soil with store bought soil, not soil from the yard. Most plants should be watered when the soil dries out, as opposed to a regular schedule. The Jade doesn't like to be over watered and needs a lot of light also. If it is soft and mushy it is not going to make it, but if the trunk is still firm, cut your watering to when the soil is really dry, not just on top, and it might make it. Neither plant needs a lot of fertilizer and probably a liquid house plant fertilizer, applied according to package directions, one a month or so is more than enough. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-01-2005, 03:11 PM
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Thanks Billy, I appericate the information.
Dali Billy M. Rhodes wrote: Taking both your questions together. Sago is not a traditional Bonsai. It is a cycad and as such a monocot, which means it grows only from the tip and doesn't branch. ( They will rarely form two growth points if the tip is damaged and mature plants will produce pups from the base) Cycads were around for the dinosaurs to feed on, so by nature are very hardy plants. Give it plenty of light and don't let it freeze. Since you indicate this plant is in its original pot and soil, if there are rocks on the surface, remove them and replace the soil with store bought soil, not soil from the yard. Most plants should be watered when the soil dries out, as opposed to a regular schedule. The Jade doesn't like to be over watered and needs a lot of light also. If it is soft and mushy it is not going to make it, but if the trunk is still firm, cut your watering to when the soil is really dry, not just on top, and it might make it. Neither plant needs a lot of fertilizer and probably a liquid house plant fertilizer, applied according to package directions, one a month or so is more than enough. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-01-2005, 03:42 PM
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Jade plants are very tough, for the most part. I actually gave one to my dad! As a rule of thumb, water once per week. The pick in the soil method is better, but Jade do better with too little water than too much. If they get a lot of light, the edges of the leaves take on a really pretty red color. You can't really wire them very effectively, but pinch and grow works exceptionally well. If you pinch out the newly forming leaves at the end of a branch, you will almost always get a Y branching as a result. You can also propogate them by simply sticking a leaf in some soil!
May not be "truly bonsai", but they are fun to play with; hard to kill; and are neat looking little "trees." Jeff Isom Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-01-2005, 03:42 PM
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Jade plants are very tough, for the most part. I actually gave one to my dad! As a rule of thumb, water once per week. The pick in the soil method is better, but Jade do better with too little water than too much. If they get a lot of light, the edges of the leaves take on a really pretty red color. You can't really wire them very effectively, but pinch and grow works exceptionally well. If you pinch out the newly forming leaves at the end of a branch, you will almost always get a Y branching as a result. You can also propogate them by simply sticking a leaf in some soil!
May not be "truly bonsai", but they are fun to play with; hard to kill; and are neat looking little "trees." Jeff Isom Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-01-2005, 03:42 PM
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Jade plants are very tough, for the most part. I actually gave one to my dad! As a rule of thumb, water once per week. The pick in the soil method is better, but Jade do better with too little water than too much. If they get a lot of light, the edges of the leaves take on a really pretty red color. You can't really wire them very effectively, but pinch and grow works exceptionally well. If you pinch out the newly forming leaves at the end of a branch, you will almost always get a Y branching as a result. You can also propogate them by simply sticking a leaf in some soil!
May not be "truly bonsai", but they are fun to play with; hard to kill; and are neat looking little "trees." Jeff Isom Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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04-01-2005, 01:09 AM
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Sago is not a traditional Bonsai. It is a cycad and as such a monocot,
Correction. Sago are not monocots at all. They are the most primitive gymnosperms, sharing some features of ferns. They belong to the family Cycadaceae. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "A tree never hits an automobile except in self defense." - Woody Allen |
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04-01-2005, 01:09 AM
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Sago is not a traditional Bonsai. It is a cycad and as such a monocot,
Correction. Sago are not monocots at all. They are the most primitive gymnosperms, sharing some features of ferns. They belong to the family Cycadaceae. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "A tree never hits an automobile except in self defense." - Woody Allen |
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14-01-2005, 12:36 AM
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Please remove my email address from your list. I am no longer involved with bonsai in anyway and do not want to receive further emails in that regard.
Thank you for your help in this matter. From: "Billy M. Rhodes" Date: 2005/01/03 Mon AM 04:50:50 CST To: Subject: [IBC] Sago & Jade Bonsai Taking both your questions together. Sago is not a traditional Bonsai. It is a cycad and as such a monocot, which means it grows only from the tip and doesn't branch. ( They will rarely form two growth points if the tip is damaged and mature plants will produce pups from the base) Cycads were around for the dinosaurs to feed on, so by nature are very hardy plants. Give it plenty of light and don't let it freeze. Since you indicate this plant is in its original pot and soil, if there are rocks on the surface, remove them and replace the soil with store bought soil, not soil from the yard. Most plants should be watered when the soil dries out, as opposed to a regular schedule. The Jade doesn't like to be over watered and needs a lot of light also. If it is soft and mushy it is not going to make it, but if the trunk is still firm, cut your watering to when the soil is really dry, not just on top, and it might make it. Neither plant needs a lot of fertilizer and probably a liquid house plant fertilizer, applied according to package directions, one a month or so is more than enough. Billy on the Florida Space Coast ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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14-01-2005, 12:36 AM
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Please remove my email address from your list. I am no longer involved with bonsai in anyway and do not want to receive further emails in that regard.
Thank you for your help in this matter. From: "Isom, Jeff (EM, PTL)" Date: 2005/01/03 Mon AM 09:43:10 CST To: Subject: [IBC] Sago & Jade Bonsai Jade plants are very tough, for the most part. I actually gave one to my dad! As a rule of thumb, water once per week. The pick in the soil method is better, but Jade do better with too little water than too much. If they get a lot of light, the edges of the leaves take on a really pretty red color. You can't really wire them very effectively, but pinch and grow works exceptionally well. If you pinch out the newly forming leaves at the end of a branch, you will almost always get a Y branching as a result. You can also propogate them by simply sticking a leaf in some soil! May not be "truly bonsai", but they are fun to play with; hard to kill; and are neat looking little "trees." Jeff Isom Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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14-01-2005, 12:36 AM
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Please remove my email address from your list. I am no longer involved with bonsai in anyway and do not want to receive further emails in that regard.
Thank you for your help in this matter. From: "Isom, Jeff (EM, PTL)" Date: 2005/01/03 Mon AM 09:43:10 CST To: Subject: [IBC] Sago & Jade Bonsai Jade plants are very tough, for the most part. I actually gave one to my dad! As a rule of thumb, water once per week. The pick in the soil method is better, but Jade do better with too little water than too much. If they get a lot of light, the edges of the leaves take on a really pretty red color. You can't really wire them very effectively, but pinch and grow works exceptionally well. If you pinch out the newly forming leaves at the end of a branch, you will almost always get a Y branching as a result. You can also propogate them by simply sticking a leaf in some soil! May not be "truly bonsai", but they are fun to play with; hard to kill; and are neat looking little "trees." Jeff Isom Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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