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Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


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Joseph A. Zupko wrote:
Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


Some states allow deer hunting on farmland all year round.

While a bunch of deers can eat a whole community garden, they only eat
a small amount in a large farm. Also deers are easily seen when you
have acres of land with woods to hide in.

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"James" wrote in message
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Joseph A. Zupko wrote:
Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer
and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They
are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate
this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense
mechanism
besides a gun?


Some states allow deer hunting on farmland all year round.

While a bunch of deers can eat a whole community garden, they only eat
a small amount in a large farm. Also deers are easily seen when you
have acres of land with woods to hide in.


Some of us lock the pets up at night and accidently leave a pool or two of
anti-freeze out in the fields. Really hot powdered red pepper sprinkled
around the perimiter, or all throughout it, of a small garden usually does
the trick there.

Plus, the tried and true farmers law, plant 3 of everything, one for the
birds and critters, one for disease and one for yourself.


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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:09:15 GMT, "Joseph A. Zupko"
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Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


I don't know about the deer, but I'm pretty sure they send the
groundhogs to our place. Some kind of nonaggression pact, or something.
They'll send the squirrels around just when the corn gets ripe.

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George wrote in message
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[..] They'll send the squirrels around just when the corn
gets ripe.


That explains it! I guess Castle Ranger's simply the outpost where the
suckers bulk up on tomatoes and oranges between their lands and yours.

The "Under Siege" Ranger




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J.C. wrote in message
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[..] Really hot powdered red pepper sprinkled
around the perimiter, or all throughout it, of a small garden
usually does the trick there. [..]


I use the hot pepper powder, too. It's done wonders keeping the feral
toms away. Find an Hispanic or Indian grocery and buy it in bulk so it's
not too much an expense. It'll probably take three spreadings to get
your point across. (Notes: Wear food gloves. Don't rub your eyes.)

Planting garlic throughout my garden has seemed to prevent massive
poaching -- although it did preseason the pears in a bad way. That was
quite a shock.

The Ranger


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"Joseph A. Zupko" wrote:

Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


A gun is a standard item, as are dogs. Raccoons in particular can
decimate more corn than they can possibly eat. Faced with a large
stand of maturing corn, they become picky eaters, ruining hundreds of
stalks a night in search of the tenderest sweetest kernels. Big
flocks of blackbirds are another problem. Deer are a pest, but deer
damage is usually limited to the outsides of a field, since they like
to see around them and be able to run from predators. Electric fences
are a common deterrant, sometimes with a much larger jolt than fences
used around cattle.

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Joseph A. Zupko wrote:
Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


Andy writes:
In Texas, we use what is called the " Three S rule"

Shoot
Shovel
Shut up

This way you have meat to go with your veggies..

Andy in Eureka, Texas

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On 27 Jul 2006 17:01:52 -0700, "AndyS" wrote:


Joseph A. Zupko wrote:
Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


Andy writes:
In Texas, we use what is called the " Three S rule"

Shoot
Shovel
Shut up


The best way to deal with endangered species.
Certain Californians have been known to employ this method, too.
Sue


This way you have meat to go with your veggies..

Andy in Eureka, Texas


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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:09:15 GMT, "Joseph A. Zupko"
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Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


My farmer friend tells me that deer really don't do that much total
harm. Around here (San Joaquin Valley, CA), if anything, it would be
coyotes. Easily dealt with with either guns or raw meat laced with
Timic (sp?). Now said farmer friend had a problem one day awhile back
when he needed some additional irrigation pipe that was in a pile
being assiduously guarded by a skunk. He didn't have a gun with him
but was able to wait til the next day for the pipe. Skunk was gone.
Gentleman friend now carries a rifle in his truck.
Sue





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Sue wrote:
Andy writes:
In Texas, we use what is called the " Three S rule"

Shoot
Shovel
Shut up


The best way to deal with endangered species.
Certain Californians have been known to employ this method, too.
Sue



****** I understand that bald eagle tastes a lot like chicken.....

Andy

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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:09:15 GMT, "Joseph A. Zupko"
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Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


Woof, woof!
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:09:15 GMT, "Joseph A. Zupko"
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Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


Electric fences are also used by farmers. Neither the dog nor the fence
are practical for a large community garden.
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In article .com,
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Sue wrote:
Andy writes:
In Texas, we use what is called the " Three S rule"

Shoot
Shovel
Shut up


The best way to deal with endangered species.
Certain Californians have been known to employ this method, too.
Sue



****** I understand that bald eagle tastes a lot like chicken.....

Andy


You might consider some precambrian, rednecked, alligator mouthed, long
pig to go with that.
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:09:15 GMT, "Joseph A. Zupko"
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Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?


Electric fences are also used by farmers. Neither the dog nor the fence
are practical for a large community garden.


Why not? We run electric around 15 acres with a solar charger.

Jan

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