Hello all!

I've recently put up an arbor that is about 10 feet long by 6 feet
high, and am looking for something to grow on it.

I originally got a blackberry, but then realized that was a bush
(shoulda checked first!) I would like to get something that will give
me fruit or berries off of it, as it is near my other fruit trees.

I am in zone 5a or 5b depending on who's map I look at. I am in
central IL, and the soil is not that great where the arbor is. The
house that was there burned down and the hole got filled in with
mostly clay. In the last several years I have managed to spread
enough leaves, woodchips, mulch, compost, grassclippings, etc over it,
and till it in every so often so the ground is not as bad as it was.
I even have a garden on that ground that is doing fine, but deep down
the soil is still clay.

I have tried the local nurserys, and they always try to sell me some
sort of bush. One even went so far as to say there is nothing that
climbs and produces fruit. I asked her about grapes, and she replied
"I suppose, but they don't grow well around here and the birds eat
what little they produce. how about a nice blueberry bush?"

Any ideas on what I can plant that will climb, produce fruit, and
tolerate less than perfect soil? (aside from grapes)

On Sat, 26 May 2007 16:52:29 GMT, Dave Allyn
wrote:

Hello all!

I've recently put up an arbor that is about 10 feet long by 6 feet
high, and am looking for something to grow on it.

I originally got a blackberry, but then realized that was a bush
(shoulda checked first!) I would like to get something that will give
me fruit or berries off of it, as it is near my other fruit trees.

I am in zone 5a or 5b depending on who's map I look at. I am in
central IL, and the soil is not that great where the arbor is. The
house that was there burned down and the hole got filled in with
mostly clay. In the last several years I have managed to spread
enough leaves, woodchips, mulch, compost, grassclippings, etc over it,
and till it in every so often so the ground is not as bad as it was.
I even have a garden on that ground that is doing fine, but deep down
the soil is still clay.

I have tried the local nurserys, and they always try to sell me some
sort of bush. One even went so far as to say there is nothing that
climbs and produces fruit. I asked her about grapes, and she replied
"I suppose, but they don't grow well around here and the birds eat
what little they produce. how about a nice blueberry bush?"

Any ideas on what I can plant that will climb, produce fruit, and
tolerate less than perfect soil? (aside from grapes)


Check this site to find your closest extension service. They should
have information on varieties of plants that grow well in your area.

http://www.csrees.usda.gov/Extension/index.html

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

In article ,
Dave Allyn wrote:

Hello all!

I've recently put up an arbor that is about 10 feet long by 6 feet
high, and am looking for something to grow on it.

I originally got a blackberry, but then realized that was a bush
(shoulda checked first!) I would like to get something that will give
me fruit or berries off of it, as it is near my other fruit trees.

I am in zone 5a or 5b depending on who's map I look at. I am in
central IL, and the soil is not that great where the arbor is. The
house that was there burned down and the hole got filled in with
mostly clay. In the last several years I have managed to spread
enough leaves, woodchips, mulch, compost, grassclippings, etc over it,
and till it in every so often so the ground is not as bad as it was.
I even have a garden on that ground that is doing fine, but deep down
the soil is still clay.

I have tried the local nurserys, and they always try to sell me some
sort of bush. One even went so far as to say there is nothing that
climbs and produces fruit. I asked her about grapes, and she replied
"I suppose, but they don't grow well around here and the birds eat
what little they produce. how about a nice blueberry bush?"

Any ideas on what I can plant that will climb, produce fruit, and
tolerate less than perfect soil? (aside from grapes)

Kiwi. It's beautiful, besides giving you good fruit.
You'll need one male plant for several female plants.

Look he

http://www.raintreenursery.com

There's a kiwi for every zone, down to about USDA Zone 2.
(It grows wild in eastern Siberia.)

Jan
USDA Zone 3

--
Bedouin proverb: If you have no troubles, buy a goat.

On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:46:09 -0900, Jan Flora
wrote:


Kiwi. It's beautiful, besides giving you good fruit.
You'll need one male plant for several female plants.

Look he

http://www.raintreenursery.com

There's a kiwi for every zone, down to about USDA Zone 2.
(It grows wild in eastern Siberia.)

Jan
USDA Zone 3

When they say the male needs to be "nearby" how close is that
generally speaking? 5-10 feet? less than 100 feet?


email: dave-afo at mchsi dot com

please respond in this NG so others
can share your wisdom as well!

In article ,
Dave Allyn wrote:

When they say the male needs to be "nearby" how close is that
generally speaking? 5-10 feet? less than 100 feet?

I prefer to be within kissing distance but maybe that's just me.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

In article
,
Bill Rose wrote:

In article ,
Dave Allyn wrote:

When they say the male needs to be "nearby" how close is that
generally speaking? 5-10 feet? less than 100 feet?

I prefer to be within kissing distance but maybe that's just me.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Hmm. I see *you* don't have an gender-identity problems : )


Dave, go read the page on the Raintree Nurseries website.

PLANT SPACING: 15 to 20 ft. for Fuzzy and Argutas.* 8 ft. for Kolomikta.

http://www.raintreenursery.com/how_to/ACTI.html

Here's the page that describes the various kiwis that they sell:

http://www.raintreenursery.com/catal...oducttype=ACTI

Jan

--
Bedouin proverb: If you have no troubles, buy a goat.