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Home Gardening Becomes Even More Imperative
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Omelet wrote: In article , jangchub wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:52:36 -0500, Omelet wrote: So invent the process and make it profitable. You could be the next multi-billionaire... I know you may be kidding, but the problem IS money. Only half-way. It really IS easy to make Hydrogen. It's one of the most abundant elements in the universe. The oil companies have a stranglehold on the economy. They don't WANT alternative energy and he who has the gold makes the rules. :-( There is no reason why gas is costing what it does. Oil tycoons made record profits the last three years in a row. Both true. It's disgusting, along with the greed and every putrid thing about it, the desire for it, the attachment to it,etc. You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes). It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer. Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that. - Bill(y) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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Home Gardening Becomes Even More Imperative
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, Bill Rose wrote: It's disgusting, along with the greed and every putrid thing about it, the desire for it, the attachment to it,etc. You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes). It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer. Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that. - Bill(y) I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Omelet wrote: In article , Bill Rose wrote: It's disgusting, along with the greed and every putrid thing about it, the desire for it, the attachment to it,etc. You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes). It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer. Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that. - Bill(y) I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either. y(Bill) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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Home Gardening Becomes Even More Imperative
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, Bill Rose wrote: I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either. y(Bill) lol ok, if you put it that way... ;-D -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Home Gardening Becomes Even More Imperative
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Cheryl Isaak wrote: I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either. y(Bill) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) It's not all testosterone - I've enjoyed my turns in the big engines/lots of cylinder cars that have graced friends and family. A gas to drive, but not everyday. It's sort of like roller coasters. Love them, but not a steady diet of them. C Ok, I can go along with that. :-) -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 6/3/07 9:42 AM, in article , "Omelet" wrote: In article , Cheryl Isaak wrote: I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either. y(Bill) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) It's not all testosterone - I've enjoyed my turns in the big engines/lots of cylinder cars that have graced friends and family. A gas to drive, but not everyday. It's sort of like roller coasters. Love them, but not a steady diet of them. C Ok, I can go along with that. :-) I know lots of performance freaks. They all have much better mileage cars for every day. Cheryl I was stunned once (more often than that actually but this was more like surprised) to meet a Frenchman (in France) who loved his 25 mpg American car because it had hydraulic valve lifters and required very little maintenance. In 1990, it cost me $50 to fill my VW van in France. Last week, it cost me $45. The thing with driving a sling-shot (and risking the organism) is that it seems to be an absolute requirement that they clock in at 110 decibels as well. I know about back pressure but these things seem engineered to say "Hey, look at me". As my BP creeps up, all I see is a target. - Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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Home Gardening Becomes Even More Imperative
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:09:47 -0700, Bill Rose
wrote: Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes). It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer. Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that. - Bill(y) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) I don't remember the Hindenberg boom, but I'm in agreement with the rest of your statements. We've known about this for fifty years. This gas "crisis" is such a bunch of bullshit. I read a very funny phrase in another forum about dubya. If people are sensitive to sexual ideas, turn away now; someone's tag line was: I wish somebody would blow him so we could start the impeachment process. I found that hysterically profound! Now, why are the two most popular hybrids made by Japan? The Ford doesn't live up to the hype, or so I've read. If we really wanted vehicles which get 100 miles to a gallon of gas, we could do it. We don't need speed boats. Maybe coming up with localization is another good way to conserve. Build communities which have all they need within walking or biking distance. Especially in places like Texas where land is spread far and wide...but that too is rapidly changing. Eh, my knee hurts. |
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