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just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:

http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt
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rachael simpson wrote:

just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:

http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt


Terrible!

We had a dry summer nothing like what you describe. So the following
growing season we mulched real heavy an as it happened we had a very wet
season. You can put it on but we can't take it off. This a few years
back about ~ 5.

Anyway

http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html

Hoping for moderation in some things.

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On 7/19/2007 8:45 AM, rachael simpson wrote:
just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:

http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt


“Some of my tobacco crops have seen just two inches of rain since April
18,” admits Lynn Carr, of Carr Farms in Newton Grove.

In the 12 months ending 30 June, Los Angeles had 3.21 inches. Where I
live, we had mo 4.57 inches for the year. It is now 90 days since
the last measurable rain, and we won't likely see any rain until November.

No, I don't live in Death Valley or the Mojave Desert. I live in
Ventura County, one of the nation's most important agricultural
counties. We are a major source of lemons, strawberries, avocados,
tomatoes, celery, and other produce as well as nursery stock and cut
flowers.

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REMEMBER that the biggest problem for trees during drought is over watering
of urban trees. Of course lack of nurse logs in wooded areas is a serious
problem for trees during drought.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


"rachael simpson" wrote in message
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just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:

http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt



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And in Central TX we've had more rain then we normally get in a year.
I suppose climate change has nothing to do with this.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:55:15 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

REMEMBER that the biggest problem for trees during drought is over watering
of urban trees. Of course lack of nurse logs in wooded areas is a serious
problem for trees during drought.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:

http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt




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Right...

;-)

Ice Age anyone?

In article ,
jangchub wrote:

And in Central TX we've had more rain then we normally get in a year.
I suppose climate change has nothing to do with this.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:55:15 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

REMEMBER that the biggest problem for trees during drought is over watering
of urban trees. Of course lack of nurse logs in wooded areas is a serious
problem for trees during drought.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


"rachael simpson" wrote in message
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just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:

http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt


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That's after coming out of a 3 year drought. The last year was considered a
severe drought. Year total to date this year exceeds the entire yearly
total expected in an average year by 50%. Everything including the dead
lawns are now green. Live oaks in the hill country are still sprouting new
leaves, unusual. The bug and varmint population is loving it.

The cause of the drought (high pressure cells hanging in one place for an
extended period of time), and unusual amount of precipitation/cloud
cover/lower temps (low cells doing similar) is debatable. After "proof" is
presented, its a matter of leap of faith to arrive at a conclusion. That's
what science is based on, many people forget.
Dave

"jangchub" wrote in message
...
And in Central TX we've had more rain then we normally get in a year.
I suppose climate change has nothing to do with this.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:55:15 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

REMEMBER that the biggest problem for trees during drought is over
watering
of urban trees. Of course lack of nurse logs in wooded areas is a serious
problem for trees during drought.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us
that we are not the boss.


"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:


http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt




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We normally get 31 inches of rain in C. Texas. We sit directly in the
part of this state where four of the ten regions in TX intersect. We
are also on the dry line.

I'm not sure what you are saying. Are you saying we don't have
problems with climate change on the planet? Did you not see An
Inconvenient Truth? I saw plenty of evidence in that film.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:36:41 GMT, "Dave"
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That's after coming out of a 3 year drought. The last year was considered a
severe drought. Year total to date this year exceeds the entire yearly
total expected in an average year by 50%. Everything including the dead
lawns are now green. Live oaks in the hill country are still sprouting new
leaves, unusual. The bug and varmint population is loving it.

The cause of the drought (high pressure cells hanging in one place for an
extended period of time), and unusual amount of precipitation/cloud
cover/lower temps (low cells doing similar) is debatable. After "proof" is
presented, its a matter of leap of faith to arrive at a conclusion. That's
what science is based on, many people forget.
Dave

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.. .
And in Central TX we've had more rain then we normally get in a year.
I suppose climate change has nothing to do with this.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:55:15 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

REMEMBER that the biggest problem for trees during drought is over
watering
of urban trees. Of course lack of nurse logs in wooded areas is a serious
problem for trees during drought.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us
that we are not the boss.


"rachael simpson" wrote in message
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just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:


http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt


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Yep, that's where we're at. That dry line may move or disappear if it keeps
raining...

I've seen plenty of evidence to support that we're in the middle of a
climate change. Including the Al Gore film concerning global warming.

My opinion is there is enough evidence to conclude so as well. The basic
core reason for me, like so many other things, is the human population is
too high for this planet to support. Their energy usage habits, resulting
of CO gases are just secondary effects. The basic problem remains
unaddressed. Depressing and sad as it may be, only a calamity can fix it.
Dave

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We normally get 31 inches of rain in C. Texas. We sit directly in the
part of this state where four of the ten regions in TX intersect. We
are also on the dry line.

I'm not sure what you are saying. Are you saying we don't have
problems with climate change on the planet? Did you not see An
Inconvenient Truth? I saw plenty of evidence in that film.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:36:41 GMT, "Dave"
wrote:

That's after coming out of a 3 year drought. The last year was considered
a
severe drought. Year total to date this year exceeds the entire yearly
total expected in an average year by 50%. Everything including the dead
lawns are now green. Live oaks in the hill country are still sprouting
new
leaves, unusual. The bug and varmint population is loving it.

The cause of the drought (high pressure cells hanging in one place for an
extended period of time), and unusual amount of precipitation/cloud
cover/lower temps (low cells doing similar) is debatable. After "proof"
is
presented, its a matter of leap of faith to arrive at a conclusion.
That's
what science is based on, many people forget.
Dave

"jangchub" wrote in message
. ..
And in Central TX we've had more rain then we normally get in a year.
I suppose climate change has nothing to do with this.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:55:15 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

REMEMBER that the biggest problem for trees during drought is over
watering
of urban trees. Of course lack of nurse logs in wooded areas is a
serious
problem for trees during drought.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep
reminding
us
that we are not the boss.


"rachael simpson" wrote in message
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just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:


http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt




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just to show you how dry it is around here...........

the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:

http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt


http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/12_week.gif



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On Jul 27, 11:23 am, z wrote:
On Jul 19, 11:45 am, rachael simpson
wrote:

just to show you how dry it is around here...........


the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:


http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt


http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/12_week.gif


nice link! just how is drought levels determined there? i noticed it
said local conditions vary. locally, not only are the crops & pastures
suffering, but the wells, rivers, streams, etc. are drying up.
currently, our area is down by nearly 17 inches in the rain-fall
department. while i know it could all be just talk, the area elders
are all saying it is the worst they've seen in years.

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"raeannsimpson" wrote in message
ps.com...
| On Jul 27, 11:23 am, z wrote:
| On Jul 19, 11:45 am, rachael simpson
| wrote:
|
| just to show you how dry it is around here...........
|
| the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:
|
|
http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt
|
| http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/12_week.gif
|
| nice link! just how is drought levels determined there? i noticed it
| said local conditions vary. locally, not only are the crops & pastures
| suffering, but the wells, rivers, streams, etc. are drying up.
| currently, our area is down by nearly 17 inches in the rain-fall
| department. while i know it could all be just talk, the area elders
| are all saying it is the worst they've seen in years.
|

So doesn't that mean that they've seen it before now? To have not seen it
in years? Ebb and flow.

Kimberly
living in drought conditions - Georgia 7bish


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Kimberly wrote:
"raeannsimpson" wrote in message
ps.com...
| On Jul 27, 11:23 am, z wrote:
| On Jul 19, 11:45 am, rachael simpson
| wrote:
|
| just to show you how dry it is around here...........
|
| the local paper did an article on the corn crops this summer:
|
|
http://clintonnc.com/articles/2007/0...topstory95.txt
|
| http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/12_week.gif
|
| nice link! just how is drought levels determined there? i noticed it
| said local conditions vary. locally, not only are the crops & pastures
| suffering, but the wells, rivers, streams, etc. are drying up.
| currently, our area is down by nearly 17 inches in the rain-fall
| department. while i know it could all be just talk, the area elders
| are all saying it is the worst they've seen in years.
|

So doesn't that mean that they've seen it before now? To have not seen it
in years? Ebb and flow.

Kimberly
living in drought conditions - Georgia 7bish


yeah......25+ years ago...before my time! lol

I guess it mainly seems worse to me this year, because last year we had
so much excess rain, and the crops flourished. This year hay is in big
demand because there isn't any near by. We've had to drop regular
customers and will be lucky if we have enough to get us thru to next hay
season.

thankfully, our well hasn't run out, while some neighbor's (about 5
miles out) well ran dry around 3 weeks ago. They've been buying and
borrowing water (and showers!).
That's not the only case of wells run dry locally.
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