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Tim wrote:

snip some interesting reading material

To use chemical fertilizers is to become dependent on them, because they
kill the microbes that would otherwise feed your plants, at no cost, for
you. As you grow microbes, you grow top soil. As you grow topsoil, you
participate in the healing of the planet.

Ok, I've saved the link to see if my library has the book even if
what they report is 100% true.....Don't forget that my soil is a
lifeless thing to begin with. Just a medium to to hold the water and the
plant. So, even if I am stuck using a man-made fertilizer, as long as
the plant grows well, so what? I'm not killing anything in any
soil.....I grow in a "fake" soil, and fertilize with "fake" food...My
plants grow well.....I'm happy....No Eco-devastation, kinda like
growing hydro...Just gimme some sun, not the snow we are supposed to get
tonight.

Meditate Grasshopper.


Well.....Give me a day to think...I'll get back to ya. 8--)
Actually, lemme see if the library has the book.
I don't have a closed mind, but in my mini-environment, I just don't
see where it will make a difference. If I can use a produced fertilizer
and get the same results without a negative impact, whats the diff?

You have your captive plant, out of its' natural habitat and you don't
care about it's natural way of eating, so you are going to feed it slop.
Your plant is protected from insects that will sense the sudden build up
of nitrogen in its' tender fast growing leaves? Where do you plan on
dumping the excess water (chemferts) from the plant?

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
Sir Walter Scott

You cheat your plant. You fudge on helping the planet. You are an
embarrassment to ecologists. You are of no help to anyone. When the
planet dies, you may not protest.

You are no Grasshopper of mine. Be gone.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

"Billy" wrote in message

You cheat your plant. You fudge on helping the planet. You are an
embarrassment to ecologists. You are of no help to anyone. When the
planet dies, you may not protest.

Billy, I think you are being a bit harsh on this occasion. At least Tim
seems to be interested enough to be asking questions and trying to
understand organics vs chemicals. The same could not be said for some of
the 'nuke it till it glows' trolls we've had here.

decades ago, I began gardening using chemicals. It didn't take me long to
realise the error of my ways but I suspect most people in the western world
begin gardening that way. The chemical companies employ very good mind
bending advertising agencies.

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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

You cheat your plant. You fudge on helping the planet. You are an
embarrassment to ecologists. You are of no help to anyone. When the
planet dies, you may not protest.

Billy, I think you are being a bit harsh on this occasion. At least Tim
seems to be interested enough to be asking questions and trying to
understand organics vs chemicals. The same could not be said for some of
the 'nuke it till it glows' trolls we've had here.

decades ago, I began gardening using chemicals. It didn't take me long to
realise the error of my ways but I suspect most people in the western world
begin gardening that way. The chemical companies employ very good mind
bending advertising agencies.

You don't like my pedagogical approach? Hmmmm. I was just trying to get
his attention. Sometimes you need a very large 2" X 4". The length gives
more leverage. He does seem a nice enough chap but he is proposing
something very stupid. Very small to be sure, but stupid none the less.
Organic costs nothing but our kitchen scraps. He is willing to give
Monsanto money for the ability to kill topsoil.
You think a charm offensive is better? OK, I'll go brush my teeth.
I appreciate the thought, truly. You not the first to mention my bedside
manner needs some attending to.

All the best.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message

You cheat your plant. You fudge on helping the planet. You are an
embarrassment to ecologists. You are of no help to anyone. When the
planet dies, you may not protest.

Billy, I think you are being a bit harsh on this occasion. At least Tim
seems to be interested enough to be asking questions and trying to
understand organics vs chemicals. The same could not be said for some of
the 'nuke it till it glows' trolls we've had here.

decades ago, I began gardening using chemicals. It didn't take me long
to
realise the error of my ways but I suspect most people in the western
world
begin gardening that way. The chemical companies employ very good mind
bending advertising agencies.

You don't like my pedagogical approach? Hmmmm. I was just trying to get
his attention. Sometimes you need a very large 2" X 4". The length gives
more leverage. He does seem a nice enough chap but he is proposing
something very stupid. Very small to be sure, but stupid none the less.
Organic costs nothing but our kitchen scraps. He is willing to give
Monsanto money for the ability to kill topsoil.
You think a charm offensive is better? OK, I'll go brush my teeth.
I appreciate the thought, truly. You not the first to mention my bedside
manner needs some attending to.

Billy, I have no objection whatsoever to you or anyone taking a baseball bat
to someone who shows either their disagreeable side or who writes idiotic
things. Lord knows I've done it often enough myself.

What I do have a problem with is if you do it without first doing some
analysis of the thread. Tim made sensible responses in answer to points
raised so all I was trying to do was to point out that he hadn't shown any
indications so far in the thread of being a troll. Don't clean you teeth
yet, they might fall out because of the shock you've given them :-))

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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message

You cheat your plant. You fudge on helping the planet. You are an
embarrassment to ecologists. You are of no help to anyone. When the
planet dies, you may not protest.

Billy, I think you are being a bit harsh on this occasion. At least Tim
seems to be interested enough to be asking questions and trying to
understand organics vs chemicals. The same could not be said for some of
the 'nuke it till it glows' trolls we've had here.

decades ago, I began gardening using chemicals. It didn't take me long
to
realise the error of my ways but I suspect most people in the western
world
begin gardening that way. The chemical companies employ very good mind
bending advertising agencies.

You don't like my pedagogical approach? Hmmmm. I was just trying to get
his attention. Sometimes you need a very large 2" X 4". The length gives
more leverage. He does seem a nice enough chap but he is proposing
something very stupid. Very small to be sure, but stupid none the less.
Organic costs nothing but our kitchen scraps. He is willing to give
Monsanto money for the ability to kill topsoil.
You think a charm offensive is better? OK, I'll go brush my teeth.
I appreciate the thought, truly. You not the first to mention my bedside
manner needs some attending to.

Billy, I have no objection whatsoever to you or anyone taking a baseball bat
to someone who shows either their disagreeable side or who writes idiotic
things. Lord knows I've done it often enough myself.

What I do have a problem with is if you do it without first doing some
analysis of the thread. Tim made sensible responses in answer to points
raised so all I was trying to do was to point out that he hadn't shown any
indications so far in the thread of being a troll.

No mum, no sign at all, but I did catch a hint of doubt, of vacillation.
I just hates vacillation when it comes to Archer Daniels Midland,
ConAgra, Cargill, American Cyanamid, Ciba-Geigy, Monsanto, or Syngenta.
Grrr - owwl

Don't clean you teeth
yet, they might fall out because of the shock you've given them :-))
Yes mum, I was just goin' to bush them out a bit, sort of a comb over;O)
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Don't clean you teeth
yet, they might fall out because of the shock you've given them :-))
Yes mum, I was just goin' to bush them out a bit, sort of a comb over;O)

Snort! That'd I'd love to see. Teeth with a comb over! Just let them go
bald and be proud of them as there is nothing worse than a comb over.

I saw a chap in a cafe a couple of weeks ago who had a comb over that came
from about 1 inch above his collar. It was so disgusting and fascinating
that I couldn't stop staring. He must have used Super Glue to keep it in
place.

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
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"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Don't clean you teeth
yet, they might fall out because of the shock you've given them :-))
Yes mum, I was just goin' to bush them out a bit, sort of a comb over;O)

Snort! That'd I'd love to see. Teeth with a comb over! Just let them go
bald and be proud of them as there is nothing worse than a comb over.

I saw a chap in a cafe a couple of weeks ago who had a comb over that came
from about 1 inch above his collar. It was so disgusting and fascinating
that I couldn't stop staring. He must have used Super Glue to keep it in
place.

pictures?

Comb overs, groan. Hoped they'd have gone out with walk shorts and walk
socks. Guy in my office still does a comb over, though not from that far
down. That said, I maintain a "comb forward" to disguise the advancing
forehead.

rob