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I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?

Tim


Pro-Mix
http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/P...tinfo/SO-PMBX/

Osmakote
http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/pr...16&id=cat50020
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I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?

Tim


Pro-Mix
http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/P...oductinfo/SO-P
MBX/

Osmakote
http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/pr...&proId=prod703
72&itemId=cat50116&id=cat50020


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On Apr 20, 10:12*am, Tim wrote:
I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?

Tim

Pro-Mixhttp://www.greenhousemegastore.com/Pro-Mix-BX-38CF-Compressed/product...

Osmakotehttp://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?tabs=usage&proI...


I have used Osmakote for a couple of years with good results, and I do
not feed inbetween.
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On Apr 20, 10:12 am, Tim wrote:
I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?

Tim

Pro-Mixhttp://www.greenhousemegastore.com/Pro-Mix-BX-38CF-Compressed/product...

Osmakotehttp://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?tabs=usage&proI...


I have used Osmakote for a couple of years with good results, and I do
not feed inbetween.

Thanks !
Perhaps I will try it this year..It does surprise me that no other
feedings are needed, I thought maybe once a month or so, but if you are
happy with the results...............

Tim

btw--Down boy, down....I figured I may get some grumbles from this,
but I have to ask questions based on what I do...
See Charlie, it sure didn't take me long!! P-)


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Tim wrote:

nanzi wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:12 am, Tim wrote:
I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?

Tim

Pro-Mixhttp://www.greenhousemegastore.com/Pro-Mix-BX-38CF-Compressed/produc
t...

Osmakotehttp://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?tabs=usage&pr
oI...


I have used Osmakote for a couple of years with good results, and I do
not feed inbetween.

Thanks !
Perhaps I will try it this year..It does surprise me that no other
feedings are needed, I thought maybe once a month or so, but if you are
happy with the results...............

Tim

btw--Down boy, down....I figured I may get some grumbles from this,
but I have to ask questions based on what I do...
See Charlie, it sure didn't take me long!! P-)


Yeah, it's all there in black and white for everyone to see. You don't
even know the name of the poison that you use, "Osmocote". That really
encourages the faint hope that you can use it wisely. There are just no
words to describe your brilliance. None at all.
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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html


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Billy wrote:
In article ,
Tim wrote:

nanzi wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:12 am, Tim wrote:
I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?

Tim

Pro-Mixhttp://www.greenhousemegastore.com/Pro-Mix-BX-38CF-Compressed/produc
t...

Osmakotehttp://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?tabs=usage&pr
oI...
I have used Osmakote for a couple of years with good results, and I do
not feed inbetween.

Thanks !
Perhaps I will try it this year..It does surprise me that no other
feedings are needed, I thought maybe once a month or so, but if you are
happy with the results...............

Tim

btw--Down boy, down....I figured I may get some grumbles from this,
but I have to ask questions based on what I do...
See Charlie, it sure didn't take me long!! P-)


Yeah, it's all there in black and white for everyone to see. You don't
even know the name of the poison that you use, "Osmocote". That really
encourages the faint hope that you can use it wisely. There are just no
words to describe your brilliance. None at all.


lol...Doesn't take much to get you riled, does it?
Well, as long as you feel better.

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In article ,
Tim wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Tim wrote:

nanzi wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:12 am, Tim wrote:
I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?

Tim

Pro-Mixhttp://www.greenhousemegastore.com/Pro-Mix-BX-38CF-Compressed/prod
uc
t...

Osmakotehttp://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?tabs=usage&
pr
oI...
I have used Osmakote for a couple of years with good results, and I do
not feed inbetween.
Thanks !
Perhaps I will try it this year..It does surprise me that no other
feedings are needed, I thought maybe once a month or so, but if you are
happy with the results...............

Tim

btw--Down boy, down....I figured I may get some grumbles from this,
but I have to ask questions based on what I do...
See Charlie, it sure didn't take me long!! P-)


Yeah, it's all there in black and white for everyone to see. You don't
even know the name of the poison that you use, "Osmocote". That really
encourages the faint hope that you can use it wisely. There are just no
words to describe your brilliance. None at all.


lol...Doesn't take much to get you riled, does it?
Well, as long as you feel better.


Riled? I haven't even dipped into my scatological references yet.
I just hope that this chemfert never sees topsoil. Granted you're not
distributing this witch's brew over 1000s of acres, but every bit of
remaining topsoil is precious.

Humankind has not woven the web of life.* We are but one thread within
it.* Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.* All things are
bound together.* All things connect.* ~Chief Seattle, 1855
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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html
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Billy wrote:


Humankind has not woven the web of life.* We are but one thread within
it.* Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.* All things are
bound together.* All things connect.* ~Chief Seattle, 1855


Heavy storm has our cat hiding
Just noise and wind and light
Still it affects me and mind

Easy to notice the connection to nature
When it yells at us

Difficult to recognize subtleness over time
Sort of like the US graduated tax system
Place a frog in hot water and it jumps
Heat slowly and no jump

Lack of toads
I think of mistakes.... seeing and wonder why

Still after the perilous winter perennials appearing

Spring and more wonder to come

Bill

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Not all who wander are lost.
- J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973)








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Billy wrote:
In article ,
Tim wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Tim wrote:

nanzi wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:12 am, Tim wrote:
I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?

Tim

Pro-Mixhttp://www.greenhousemegastore.com/Pro-Mix-BX-38CF-Compressed/prod
uc
t...

Osmakotehttp://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?tabs=usage&
pr
oI...
I have used Osmakote for a couple of years with good results, and I do
not feed inbetween.
Thanks !
Perhaps I will try it this year..It does surprise me that no other
feedings are needed, I thought maybe once a month or so, but if you are
happy with the results...............

Tim

btw--Down boy, down....I figured I may get some grumbles from this,
but I have to ask questions based on what I do...
See Charlie, it sure didn't take me long!! P-)
Yeah, it's all there in black and white for everyone to see. You don't
even know the name of the poison that you use, "Osmocote". That really
encourages the faint hope that you can use it wisely. There are just no
words to describe your brilliance. None at all.

lol...Doesn't take much to get you riled, does it?
Well, as long as you feel better.


Riled? I haven't even dipped into my scatological references yet.
I just hope that this chemfert never sees topsoil. Granted you're not
distributing this witch's brew over 1000s of acres, but every bit of
remaining topsoil is precious.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within
it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are
bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle, 1855


Ah, now that I can agree with...To an extent. I do believe that we are
faced with way too many compounds which we don't even know about. From
the fluoridated/chlorinated water I drink and water with to the compound
that makes plastics soft, to my cell phone looking for the last brain
cell to fry.
You did make me think and look into it though, and I found this:

Miracle Gro Liquid:
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...ds&id=19026018
Osmocote:
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...ds&id=19026036

They both said this:
Carcinogenicity: From MSDS
None
IARC: No
NTP: No
OSHA: No
GENERAL COMMENTS:This product contains urea (CAS#57-13-6) and is
affirmed as generally recognized as safe (GRAS) in accordance with U.S.
FDA, 21 CFR,184.
ECOTOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION:Prevent large quantities from
contacting vegetation or waterways. Keep animals away from large spills.
This material is highly beneficial to plant life. There are no known
adverse effects on aquatic life.

It may not be organic, but I feel better about using it than drinking my
tapwater..I did along the way find this :

http://www.submersibledesign.com/drinkpee/diy.html

I think they grow watercress with it...

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Tim wrote:

lol...Doesn't take much to get you riled, does it?
Well, as long as you feel better.


Riled? I haven't even dipped into my scatological references yet.
I just hope that this chemfert never sees topsoil. Granted you're not
distributing this witch's brew over 1000s of acres, but every bit of
remaining topsoil is precious.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within
it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are
bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle, 1855


Ah, now that I can agree with...To an extent. I do believe that we are
faced with way too many compounds which we don't even know about. From
the fluoridated/chlorinated water I drink and water with to the compound
that makes plastics soft, to my cell phone looking for the last brain
cell to fry.


OK Grasshopper, pay attention while ol' Sensei Billy trys to slip this
concept into your skull.

Teaming with Microbes: A Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web
Jeff Lowenfels and Wayne Lewis
http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Microb.../dp/0881927775
/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206815176&sr= 1-1
pg. 25

Special soil fungi, called mycorrhizal fungi, establish themselves in a
symbiotic relationship with roots, providing them not only with-physical
protection but with nutrient delivery as well. In return for exudates,
these fungi provide water, phosphorus, and other necessary plant
nutrients. Soil food web populations must be in balance, or these fungi
are eaten and the plant suffers.

Bacteria produce exudates of their own, and the slime they use to attach
to surfaces traps pathogens. Sometimes, bacteria work in conjunction
with fungi to form protective layers, not only around roots in the
rhizosphere but on an equivalent area around leaf surfaces, the
phyllosphere. Leaves produce exudates that attract microorganisms in
exactly the same way roots do; these act as a barrier to invasion,
preventing disease-causing organisms from entering the plant's system.
Some fungi and bacteria produce inhibitory compounds, things like
vitamins and antibiotics, which help maintain or improve plant health;
penicillin and streptomycin, for example, are produced by a soil-borne
fungus and a soil-borne bacterium, respectively.

All nitrogen is not the same

Ultimately, from the plant's perspective anyhow, the role of the soil
food web is to cycle down nutrients until they become temporarily
immobilized in the bodies of bacteria and fungi and then mineralized.
The most important of these nutrients is nitrogen‹the basic building
block of amino acids and, therefore, life. The biomass of fungi and
bacteria (that is, the total amount of each in the soil) determines, for
the most part, the amount of nitrogen that is readily available for
plant use.

It wasn't until the 1980s that soil scientists could accurately measure
the amount of bacteria and fungi in soils. Dr. Elaine Ingham at Oregon
State University along with others started publishing research that
showed the ratio of these two organisms in various types of soil. In
general, the least disturbed soils (those that supported old growth
timber) had far more fungi than bacteria, while disturbed soils
(rototilled soil, for example) had far more bacteria than fungi. These
and later studies show that agricultural soils have a fungal to
bacterial biomass (F:B ratio) of 1:1 or less, while forest soils have
ten times or more fungi than bacteria.

Ingham and some of her graduate students at OSU also noticed a
correlation between plants and their preference for soils that were
fungally dominated versus those that were bacterially dominated or
neutral. Since the path from bacterial to fungal domination in soils
follows the general course of plant succession, it became easy to
predict what type of soil particular plants preferred
by noting where they came from. In general, perennials, trees, and
shrubs prefer fungally dominated soils, while annuals, grasses, and
vegetables prefer soils dominated by bacteria.
One implication of these findings, for the gardener, has to do with the
nitrogen in bacteria and fungi. Remember, this is what the soil food web
means to a plant: when these organisms are eaten, some of the nitrogen
is retained by the eater, but much of it is released as waste in the
form of plant-available ammonium (NH4). Depending on the soil
environment, this can either remain as ammonium or be converted into
nitrate (NO,) by special bacteria. When does this conversion occur? When
ammonium is released in soils that are dominated by bacteria. This is
because such soils generally have an alkaline pH (thanks to bacterial
bioslime), which encourages the nitrogen-fixing bacteria to thrive. The
acids produced by fungi, as they begin to dominate, lower the pH and
greatly reduce the amount of these bacteria. In fungally dominated
soils, much of the nitrogen remains in ammonium form.
Ah, here is the rub: chemical fertilizers provide plants with nitrogen,
but most do so in the form of nitrates (NO,,). An understanding of the
soil food web makes it clear, however, that plants that prefer fungally
dominated soils ultimately won't flourish on a diet of nitrates. Knowing
this can make a great deal of difference in the way you manage your
gardens and yard. If you can cause either fungi or bacteria to dominate,
or provide an equal mix (and you can - just how is explained in Part 2)
, then plants can get the kind of nitrogen they prefer, without
chemicals, and thrive.

Negative impacts on the soil food web

Chemical fertilizers negatively impact the soil food web by killing off
entire portions of it. What gardener hasn't seen what table salt does to
a slug? Fertilizers are salts; they suck the water out of the bacteria,
fungi, protozoa, and nematodes in the soil. Since these microbes are at
the very foundation of the soil food web nutrient system, you have to
keep adding fertilizer once you start using it regularly. The
microbiology is missing and not there to do its job, feeding the plants.
It makes sense that once the bacteria, fungi, nematodes, and protozoa are
gone, other members of the food web disappear as well. Earthworms, for
example, lacking food and irritated by the synthetic nitrates in soluble
nitrogen fertilizers, move out. Since they are major shredders of
organic material, their absence is a great loss. Without the activity
and diversity of a healthy food web, you not only impact the nutrient
system but all the other things a healthy soil food web brings. Soil
structure deteriorates, watering can become problematic," pathogens and
pests establish themselves and, worst of all, gardening becomes a lot
more work than it needs to be.

If the salt-based chemical fertilizers don't kill portions of the soil
food web, rototilling will. This gardening rite of spring breaks up
fungal hyphae, decimates worms, and rips and crushes arthropods. It
destroys soil structure and eventually saps soil of necessary air.
Again, this means more work for you in the end. Air pollution,
pesticides, fungicides, and herbicides, too, kill off important members
of the food web community or &quotchase" them away. Any chain is only as
strong as its weakest link: if there is a gap in the soil food web, the
system will break down and stop functioning properly.

Healthy soil food webs benefit you and your plants

Why should a gardener be knowledgeable about how soils and soil food webs
work? Because then you can manage them so they work for you and your
plants. By using techniques that employ soil food web science as you
garden, you can at least reduce and at best eliminate the need for
fertilizers, herbicides, fungicides, and pesticides (and a lot of
accompanying work). You can improve degraded soils and return them to
usefulness. Soils will retain nutrients in the bodies of soil food web
organisms instead of letting them leach out to God knows where. Your
plants will be getting nutrients in the form each particular
plant wants and needs so they will be less stressed. You will have
natural disease prevention, protection, and suppression. Your soils will
hold more water.

The organisms in the soil food web will do most of the work of maintain-
ing plant health. Billions of living organisms will be continuously at
work throughout the year, doing the heavy chores, providing nutrients to
plants, building defense systems against pests and diseases, loosening
soil and increasing drainage, providing necessary pathways for oxygen
and carbon dioxide.

You won't have to do these things yourself.

Gardening with the soil food web is easy, but you must get the life back
in your soils. First, however, you have to know something about the soil
in which the soil food web operates; second, you need to know what each
of the key members of the food web community does. Both these concerns
are taken up in the rest of Part 1.
____

To use chemical fertilizers is to become dependent on them, because they
kill the microbes that would otherwise feed your plants, at no cost, for
you. As you grow microbes, you grow top soil. As you grow topsoil, you
participate in the healing of the planet.

Meditate Grasshopper.

The system of nature, of which man is a part, tends to be
self-balancing, self-adjusting, self-cleansing.* Not so with
technology.* ~E.F. Schumacher, Small is Beautiful, 1973
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

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In article ,
Bill wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:


Humankind has not woven the web of life.* We are but one thread within
it.* Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.* All things are
bound together.* All things connect.* ~Chief Seattle, 1855


Heavy storm has our cat hiding
Just noise and wind and light
Still it affects me and mind

Easy to notice the connection to nature
When it yells at us

Difficult to recognize subtleness over time
Sort of like the US graduated tax system
Place a frog in hot water and it jumps
Heat slowly and no jump

Lack of toads
I think of mistakes.... seeing and wonder why

Still after the perilous winter perennials appearing

Spring and more wonder to come

Bill


The brushwood,
Though cut for fuel,
Is beginning to bud.
- Boncho
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- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html
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"Tim" wrote in message
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I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?


I use Osmacote for indoor plants and pot plants. I'd never consider using
it for something I planned to eat.


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snip some interesting reading material

To use chemical fertilizers is to become dependent on them, because they
kill the microbes that would otherwise feed your plants, at no cost, for
you. As you grow microbes, you grow top soil. As you grow topsoil, you
participate in the healing of the planet.


Ok, I've saved the link to see if my library has the book even if
what they report is 100% true.....Don't forget that my soil is a
lifeless thing to begin with. Just a medium to to hold the water and the
plant. So, even if I am stuck using a man-made fertilizer, as long as
the plant grows well, so what? I'm not killing anything in any
soil.....I grow in a "fake" soil, and fertilize with "fake" food...My
plants grow well.....I'm happy....No Eco-devastation, kinda like
growing hydro...Just gimme some sun, not the snow we are supposed to get
tonight.

Meditate Grasshopper.


Well.....Give me a day to think...I'll get back to ya. 8--)
Actually, lemme see if the library has the book.
I don't have a closed mind, but in my mini-environment, I just don't
see where it will make a difference. If I can use a produced fertilizer
and get the same results without a negative impact, whats the diff?


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I grow everything in containers, and use Pro-Mix BX as the soil medium.
Very happy with it. It drains so well, I worry that the water soluble
fertilizer leeches out too quick. A garden expert whose podcast I listen
to Ron Wilson is an avid proponent of Osmakote, a time release
fertilizer.
Does anyone use a time release, and how do you think it works for you?
Do you still give your plants extra feedings?


I use Osmacote for indoor plants and pot plants. I'd never consider using
it for something I planned to eat.


Ok, round two....8-)
Please explain.
And btw, thanks for your input!

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snip some interesting reading material

To use chemical fertilizers is to become dependent on them, because they
kill the microbes that would otherwise feed your plants, at no cost, for
you. As you grow microbes, you grow top soil. As you grow topsoil, you
participate in the healing of the planet.


Ok, I've saved the link to see if my library has the book even if
what they report is 100% true.....Don't forget that my soil is a
lifeless thing to begin with. Just a medium to to hold the water and the
plant. So, even if I am stuck using a man-made fertilizer, as long as
the plant grows well, so what? I'm not killing anything in any
soil.....I grow in a "fake" soil, and fertilize with "fake" food...My
plants grow well.....I'm happy....No Eco-devastation, kinda like
growing hydro...Just gimme some sun, not the snow we are supposed to get
tonight.

Meditate Grasshopper.


Well.....Give me a day to think...I'll get back to ya. 8--)
Actually, lemme see if the library has the book.
I don't have a closed mind, but in my mini-environment, I just don't
see where it will make a difference. If I can use a produced fertilizer
and get the same results without a negative impact, whats the diff?


You have your captive plant, out of its' natural habitat and you don't
care about it's natural way of eating, so you are going to feed it slop.
Your plant is protected from insects that will sense the sudden build up
of nitrogen in its' tender fast growing leaves? Where do you plan on
dumping the excess water (chemferts) from the plant?

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
Sir Walter Scott

You cheat your plant. You fudge on helping the planet. You are an
embarrassment to ecologists. You are of no help to anyone. When the
planet dies, you may not protest.

You are no Grasshopper of mine. Be gone.
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is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

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