http://www.chestnut-sw.com/growform.htm


I'd look about their home too.

--
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Bill who putters wrote:

http://www.chestnut-sw.com/growform.htm


I'd look about their home too.

Interesting read on Till and No till and N.

http://www.sdnotill.com/Newsletters/Relationships.pdf

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In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

http://www.chestnut-sw.com/growform.htm


I'd look about their home too.

And so this is Easter. Sorry John L.

Big Buck Bunny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUPcimeiqLE

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In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

Interesting read on Till and No till and N.

http://www.sdnotill.com/Newsletters/Relationships.pdf

Real interesting article that you found for us, Bill.

Of course it was put out by the USDA, which means that they are talking
about petrochemical fertilizers, but no matter, still interesting.

"The overall effect of tillage is a soil environment that stimulates
aerobic microbial activity, eventually leading to increased
decomposition rates of plant residue-C and accelerated cycling of soil-N
compared with no-till and native prairie soils."

"Normally, when plant residues with C:N ratios greater than
approximately 20 parts C to one part N are added to the soil available N
is immobilized during the first few weeks of decomposition (Sinha et
al., 1977; Doran and Smith, 1991; Somda et al., 1991; Green and
Blackmer, 1995). Green et al. (1995) observed that incorporation of corn
stover into soil resulted in rapid immobilization of all available
inorganic N during the rapid decomposition period. This occurred because
the microbial population decomposing the plant residue had increased
exponentially in response to the C source and tillage, essentially
needing the N much like cattle require protein in a balanced feed
ration. If N immobilization occurs when a crop needs N for growth and
development, the growth and yield may be reduced."

---

Tilling causes boom and bust cycles for microbes in garden soil as well
as for agribusinesses' great swaths of cropland. Introducing organic
material into the soil must be matched with commensurate amounts of
nitrogen (20:1 ratio) or the microbes will hijack the nitrogen for their
population explosion, leaving little N (nitrogen source like manure) for
the young plants (see last sentence above).

I see this as an affirmation for "lasagna gardening", as mulch applied
to gardens breaks down relatively slowly on the surface, avoiding the
immediate need to apply matching N.

My plan is to add 18.37 lb. chicken manure, 3 lb. rock phosphate, and 11
gal. of wood ash / 100 sq.ft. This will get layered over with newsprint
(check with local bird cage-liner publisher to insure that print is soy
based), and mulch that with alfalfa (lucerne: 2-2-0, its a twofer),
wet, wait at least 2 weeks, and plant.

A good point was brought up in the article, and that is the placing of a
nitrogen source near the seed or plant. Usually I fish emulsion after
planting. This year, I think I'll fish emulsion the hole before I put
the plant in, and the recommended bimonthly addition during the growing
period, but cease for fruit producing plants when they go into flower.

"A starter fertilizer that supplies a form of N readily plant-available
(such as nitrate-N) and is placed two to three inches away from the seed
at the same depth of planting serves well in preventing seedling N
stress. It is important to not place the starter fertilizer too far
from the seed because cool early season soil temperatures limit the
growth of seedling roots. In addition, it is important to not apply too
high a rate of starter fertilizer because of the risk of salt damage to
the seedling."

As we've been saying, chemical fertilizers (chemferts) are bad for the
soil ecology, but as the last sentence above says, it, the chemfert
"salt", can be bad for the plants as well.

First bee of Spring, yesterday evening, a bumble bee.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Bee-OnPavement.
jpg

Back to potting,
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

Interesting read on Till and No till and N.

http://www.sdnotill.com/Newsletters/Relationships.pdf

Real interesting article that you found for us, Bill.

Of course it was put out by the USDA, which means that they are talking
about petrochemical fertilizers, but no matter, still interesting.

"The overall effect of tillage is a soil environment that stimulates
aerobic microbial activity, eventually leading to increased
decomposition rates of plant residue-C and accelerated cycling of soil-N
compared with no-till and native prairie soils."

"Normally, when plant residues with C:N ratios greater than
approximately 20 parts C to one part N are added to the soil available N
is immobilized during the first few weeks of decomposition (Sinha et
al., 1977; Doran and Smith, 1991; Somda et al., 1991; Green and
Blackmer, 1995). Green et al. (1995) observed that incorporation of corn
stover into soil resulted in rapid immobilization of all available
inorganic N during the rapid decomposition period. This occurred because
the microbial population decomposing the plant residue had increased
exponentially in response to the C source and tillage, essentially
needing the N much like cattle require protein in a balanced feed
ration. If N immobilization occurs when a crop needs N for growth and
development, the growth and yield may be reduced."

---

Tilling causes boom and bust cycles for microbes in garden soil as well
as for agribusinesses' great swaths of cropland. Introducing organic
material into the soil must be matched with commensurate amounts of
nitrogen (20:1 ratio) or the microbes will hijack the nitrogen for their
population explosion, leaving little N (nitrogen source like manure) for
the young plants (see last sentence above).

I see this as an affirmation for "lasagna gardening", as mulch applied
to gardens breaks down relatively slowly on the surface, avoiding the
immediate need to apply matching N.

My plan is to add 18.37 lb. chicken manure, 3 lb. rock phosphate, and 11
gal. of wood ash / 100 sq.ft. This will get layered over with newsprint
(check with local bird cage-liner publisher to insure that print is soy
based), and mulch that with alfalfa (lucerne: 2-2-0, its a twofer),
wet, wait at least 2 weeks, and plant.

A good point was brought up in the article, and that is the placing of a
nitrogen source near the seed or plant. Usually I fish emulsion after
planting. This year, I think I'll fish emulsion the hole before I put
the plant in, and the recommended bimonthly addition during the growing
period, but cease for fruit producing plants when they go into flower.

"A starter fertilizer that supplies a form of N readily plant-available
(such as nitrate-N) and is placed two to three inches away from the seed
at the same depth of planting serves well in preventing seedling N
stress. It is important to not place the starter fertilizer too far
from the seed because cool early season soil temperatures limit the
growth of seedling roots. In addition, it is important to not apply too
high a rate of starter fertilizer because of the risk of salt damage to
the seedling."

As we've been saying, chemical fertilizers (chemferts) are bad for the
soil ecology, but as the last sentence above says, it, the chemfert
"salt", can be bad for the plants as well.

First bee of Spring, yesterday evening, a bumble bee.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Bee-OnPavement.
jpg

Back to potting,

One thing that is sometimes missed is the understanding of things not
studied in a formal way. Understanding gained via wisdom versus
knowledge is about close but you we I have to learn in our own way.
Weird sentence given. I consider usenet a pointer for doing.

The PDF does provide useful questions and Billy has addressed some of
them as per usual thoughfully . I'd add right on but I'd caveat that
oil and timing and microbial health is currently economically driven as
our health and well being is not in the non wholistic equation.

Watch the rabbit video. My wife wants to take it to school for those
times when the class is done but the time or bell rules. Bill who killed
15 flying squirrels in his attic last year. Love them outside btw.

--
Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
http://www.globalissues.org/article/75/world-military-spending

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

Interesting read on Till and No till and N.

http://www.sdnotill.com/Newsletters/Relationships.pdf

Real interesting article that you found for us, Bill.

Of course it was put out by the USDA, which means that they are talking
about petrochemical fertilizers, but no matter, still interesting.

"The overall effect of tillage is a soil environment that stimulates
aerobic microbial activity, eventually leading to increased
decomposition rates of plant residue-C and accelerated cycling of soil-N
compared with no-till and native prairie soils."

"Normally, when plant residues with C:N ratios greater than
approximately 20 parts C to one part N are added to the soil available N
is immobilized during the first few weeks of decomposition (Sinha et
al., 1977; Doran and Smith, 1991; Somda et al., 1991; Green and
Blackmer, 1995). Green et al. (1995) observed that incorporation of corn
stover into soil resulted in rapid immobilization of all available
inorganic N during the rapid decomposition period. This occurred because
the microbial population decomposing the plant residue had increased
exponentially in response to the C source and tillage, essentially
needing the N much like cattle require protein in a balanced feed
ration. If N immobilization occurs when a crop needs N for growth and
development, the growth and yield may be reduced."

---

Tilling causes boom and bust cycles for microbes in garden soil as well
as for agribusinesses' great swaths of cropland. Introducing organic
material into the soil must be matched with commensurate amounts of
nitrogen (20:1 ratio) or the microbes will hijack the nitrogen for their
population explosion, leaving little N (nitrogen source like manure) for
the young plants (see last sentence above).

I see this as an affirmation for "lasagna gardening", as mulch applied
to gardens breaks down relatively slowly on the surface, avoiding the
immediate need to apply matching N.

My plan is to add 18.37 lb. chicken manure, 3 lb. rock phosphate, and 11
gal. of wood ash / 100 sq.ft. This will get layered over with newsprint
(check with local bird cage-liner publisher to insure that print is soy
based), and mulch that with alfalfa (lucerne: 2-2-0, its a twofer),
wet, wait at least 2 weeks, and plant.

A good point was brought up in the article, and that is the placing of a
nitrogen source near the seed or plant. Usually I fish emulsion after
planting. This year, I think I'll fish emulsion the hole before I put
the plant in, and the recommended bimonthly addition during the growing
period, but cease for fruit producing plants when they go into flower.

"A starter fertilizer that supplies a form of N readily plant-available
(such as nitrate-N) and is placed two to three inches away from the seed
at the same depth of planting serves well in preventing seedling N
stress. It is important to not place the starter fertilizer too far
from the seed because cool early season soil temperatures limit the
growth of seedling roots. In addition, it is important to not apply too
high a rate of starter fertilizer because of the risk of salt damage to
the seedling."

As we've been saying, chemical fertilizers (chemferts) are bad for the
soil ecology, but as the last sentence above says, it, the chemfert
"salt", can be bad for the plants as well.

First bee of Spring, yesterday evening, a bumble bee.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Bee-OnPavement.
jpg

Back to potting,

One thing that is sometimes missed is the understanding of things not
studied in a formal way. Understanding gained via wisdom versus
knowledge is about close but you we I have to learn in our own way.
Weird sentence given. I consider usenet a pointer for doing.

The PDF does provide useful questions and Billy has addressed some of
them as per usual thoughfully . I'd add right on but I'd caveat that
oil and timing and microbial health is currently economically driven as
our health and well being is not in the non wholistic equation.

Then there is the coincidence of,

http://www.sdnotill.com/Newsletters/Relationships.pdf
However, with N fertilizer prices nearly doubling within the
past year, there is now adequate economic pressure to minimize N
fertilizer costs and make efforts to make one¹s crop production program
as efficient as possible.
REFERENCES

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article...71007/1309?Tit
le=Keep-your-old-seeds-cool-and-collected-
With seed prices creeping up each year, no doubt because of the
back-to-the-garden movement and the ensuing demand for seed,

Uh huh, fertilizer prices going up, and seed prices going up, and "no
doubt because of the back-to-the-garden movement".

So we are getting reamed, and it is our fault, yeah, sure, right.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1863...gro-company-f1
q10-qtr-end-01-02-10-earnings-call-transcript
The Scotts Miracle-Gro Company F1Q10

In fact, we saw some important trends develop in the quarter that
reinforced our confidence in the strategies we have shared with you in
the past. The improvement in the United States follows a consistent
pattern led by strong consumer demand. Consumer purchases of our
products in the US, as measured by the POS data that we see from our
retail partners increased 14% in the first quarter. We saw improvements
in 49 states with only North Dakota being the outlier. And we saw
double-digit gains in 38 states.

The main driver in the quarter was lawn fertilizer, up 32%. . .
(Must be more golf courses for the obscenely rich.- Billy)

.. . . I want to stress that we still have very limited distribution in
this space, and we are confident there is plenty of room for growth, if
we remain focused on innovation and marketing. For the record, let me
touch upon the other United States categories. Consumer purchases of
Roundup improved by 10% in the quarter, growing media increased by 7%
and plant food by 4%.
---

There doesn't appear to be a financial problems with chemferts.
And what about seeds?
---

http://www.usatoday.com/cleanprint/?1269734462351
Recession grows interest in seeds,
vegetable gardening

Updated 2/20/2009 2:32 AM

By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY


Interest in vegetable growing has taken off during the recession.

Hard economic times are acting like instant fertilizer on an industry
that had been growing slowly: home vegetable gardening.

Amid the Washington talk of "shovel-ready" recession projects, it
appears few projects are more shovel-ready than backyard gardens. Veggie
seed sales are up double-digits at the nation's biggest seed sellers
this year.

What's more, the number of homes growing vegetables will jump more than
40% this year compared with just two years ago, projects the National
Gardening Association, a non-profit organization for gardening education.

"As the economy goes down, food gardening goes up," says Bruce
Butterfield, the group's research director. "We haven't seen this kind
of spike in 30years."

At W. Atlee Burpee, the world's largest seed company, seed sales will
jump 25% this year, Chairman George Ball estimates. "It's weird to have
everyone else you talk to experiencing plunging markets. We're on a
roll."

Burpee is taking pains to craft its marketing to fit the times, says
Ball. It recently rolled out the "Money Garden," a value bundle of
tomato, bean, red pepper, carrot, lettuce and snap pea seeds sold
online at www.burpee.com. With a separate retail value of $20, the pack
sells for $10, and under the right conditions, Burpee claims, can
produce $650 worth of veggies.

"Seeds are God's microchip," says Ball. But in the suddenly hot world of
veggie seed sales, Burpee has company:

€Park Seed. Vegetable seed sales are up 20% this year vs. 2008, says
Walter Yates, who oversees the company's e-commerce.

Says Yates, "Every time this country goes through a recession, there is
a surge of folks who want to get back to basics."

€Renee's Garden. Business manager Sarah Renfro says veggie seed sales
were up about 10% last year and look to grow up to 20%.

"After years of declining veggie seed sales, the whole cycle has
completely reversed," says Renee Shepherd, president.

€Harris Seeds. Home garden vegetable seed sales are up 80% from one year
ago, says Dick Chamberlin, president. "A jump like this has never
happened."

€Ferry-Morse Seed. After 2008 sales grew 5%, the company stocked up on
50% more vegetable seeds to sell in 2009, says John Hamrick, vice
president of sales and marketing.

The veggies are apparently squeezing flowers for space in the nation's
gardens. Ferry-Morse, along with others, is seeing a decline in sales of
flower seeds, and Hamrick says the company has switched its inventory
mix from 50-50 to 40% flower seeds and 60% veggies.
----

Seed companies appear to know that they have us by the short hairs, and
are charging what they can get away with.

Time to fight back, and become a seed saver, because left to their own
devices, these guys are going to bleed us dry.

So much for "We the People, in order to form a more perfect union . .
..", and the document that it was a part of.

Circle the wagons, because the neo-liberals are coming.

This is what is know as Disaster Capitalism. When there is a disaster
these guys capitalize on it, just as surely as Donald Trump in New
Orleans.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html