In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

General Schvantzkoph wrote:

My details - I never use the plastic tops when growing indoors. I add a
small amount of peat moss to my seedlings also (Rumored to help keep
mold and wilt down, I lost my sources to this rumor). I am using a
miracle grow seed starting mixture (I know I shouldn't). I do not use
any heat pads. I have nine south side oversized windows, each with a
heat register under the windows. Ceiling fans in every room for air
circulation. I have a cheap T-5 grow light on each of the 9 TV tray
tables. Two 72 cell trays on each table. 2 x 9 x 72 = 1296 plants!!!!

The plastic cover was the reason I'm giving the Jiffy a try. One of my
cats ate a few of the sprouts that I have in peat pots, I have lots of
spares on the wet plates so I replaced them and covered them with glad
wrap to discourage the cats (tomatoes are poisonous to cats so it's not
good for the cats as well as for the seedlings).

I like the Jiffy Tray. It is not cat proof and in in fact appears to
be a cat magnet. The cover simply cannot withstand the weight of a cat.

A sheet of clear poly works (no cat appeal). I think a good solution
you may be a box glued up of polyisocyanurate (R Max), with a bit of
glazing (clear poly) over it. The polyiso will help keep in the heat at
night. 4' * 8' sheets are under $10. Set the tray inside.

Jeff
(who may not know much about gardening but has a lot of experience with
cats!)

I find the jiffy trays week and flexible. I like to use Heavy Duty
Lattice Flats with the trays for added strength. Example found at
http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/ using "8619 Heavy Duty 1020 Lattice
Flats". Dogs Rule and are trainable

--
Enjoy Life... Dan

Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.

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,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

General Schvantzkoph wrote:

My details - I never use the plastic tops when growing indoors. I add a
small amount of peat moss to my seedlings also (Rumored to help keep
mold and wilt down, I lost my sources to this rumor). I am using a
miracle grow seed starting mixture (I know I shouldn't). I do not use
any heat pads. I have nine south side oversized windows, each with a
heat register under the windows. Ceiling fans in every room for air
circulation. I have a cheap T-5 grow light on each of the 9 TV tray
tables. Two 72 cell trays on each table. 2 x 9 x 72 = 1296 plants!!!!

The plastic cover was the reason I'm giving the Jiffy a try. One of my
cats ate a few of the sprouts that I have in peat pots, I have lots of
spares on the wet plates so I replaced them and covered them with glad
wrap to discourage the cats (tomatoes are poisonous to cats so it's not
good for the cats as well as for the seedlings).

I like the Jiffy Tray. It is not cat proof and in in fact appears to
be a cat magnet. The cover simply cannot withstand the weight of a cat.

A sheet of clear poly works (no cat appeal). I think a good solution
you may be a box glued up of polyisocyanurate (R Max), with a bit of
glazing (clear poly) over it. The polyiso will help keep in the heat at
night. 4' * 8' sheets are under $10. Set the tray inside.

Jeff
(who may not know much about gardening but has a lot of experience with
cats!)

I find the jiffy trays week and flexible. I like to use Heavy Duty
Lattice Flats with the trays for added strength. Example found at
http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/ using "8619 Heavy Duty 1020 Lattice
Flats". Dogs Rule and are trainable

I understand that the dogs are in charge of the pack, but why would you
put them on a train?
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

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,
Billy wrote:


Dogs Rule and are trainable

I understand that the dogs are in charge of the pack, but why would you
put them on a train?
To be honest, the dog has me well trained. The first day I got my little
dog, he kept barking to go outside. After a dozen times during the day,
I was getting tired of the routine and for for the first time I said NO!
He looked me in eye and walked to my floor planter and peed on it! The
little rat has some intelligence! He showed me who was in charge.
I installed a doggie door the next day. Both of us are happy

--
Enjoy Life... Dan

Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.

In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:


Dogs Rule and are trainable

I understand that the dogs are in charge of the pack, but why would you
put them on a train?
To be honest, the dog has me well trained. The first day I got my little
dog, he kept barking to go outside. After a dozen times during the day,
I was getting tired of the routine and for for the first time I said NO!
He looked me in eye and walked to my floor planter and peed on it! The
little rat has some intelligence! He showed me who was in charge.
I installed a doggie door the next day. Both of us are happy

Wait 'till the raccoons find it ;O)
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

Billy wrote:
In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:


Dogs Rule and are trainable
I understand that the dogs are in charge of the pack, but why would you
put them on a train?
To be honest, the dog has me well trained. The first day I got my little
dog, he kept barking to go outside. After a dozen times during the day,
I was getting tired of the routine and for for the first time I said NO!
He looked me in eye and walked to my floor planter and peed on it! The
little rat has some intelligence! He showed me who was in charge.
I installed a doggie door the next day. Both of us are happy

Wait 'till the raccoons find it ;O)

I had that trouble with the raccoons raiding the cat food. Put it (18 lb
bag) in a large container with a latch.

Next night I heard a noise and went to investigate. Found two in the
container just looking at me, wondering why I was awake. They had no
fear of me or the cats and obviously no problem with the latch.

Jeff

In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:


Dogs Rule and are trainable
I understand that the dogs are in charge of the pack, but why would you
put them on a train?
To be honest, the dog has me well trained. The first day I got my little
dog, he kept barking to go outside. After a dozen times during the day,
I was getting tired of the routine and for for the first time I said NO!
He looked me in eye and walked to my floor planter and peed on it! The
little rat has some intelligence! He showed me who was in charge.
I installed a doggie door the next day. Both of us are happy

Wait 'till the raccoons find it ;O)

I had that trouble with the raccoons raiding the cat food. Put it (18 lb
bag) in a large container with a latch.

Next night I heard a noise and went to investigate. Found two in the
container just looking at me, wondering why I was awake. They had no
fear of me or the cats and obviously no problem with the latch.

Jeff

The doggie door leads to the deck. I made a gate for the deck. I close
the gate at night and open it during the day. My deck is really a poop
deck. I am amazed the little seven pound five year old yorkie is still
alive. Still someday a wandering coyote will get him. So far coyotes,
hawks, foxes and cars have not got him. The little dog kills a mouse or
two each month. Plays with the mouse until it is dead.

--
Enjoy Life... Dan

Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.

In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:


Dogs Rule and are trainable
I understand that the dogs are in charge of the pack, but why would you
put them on a train?
To be honest, the dog has me well trained. The first day I got my little
dog, he kept barking to go outside. After a dozen times during the day,
I was getting tired of the routine and for for the first time I said NO!
He looked me in eye and walked to my floor planter and peed on it! The
little rat has some intelligence! He showed me who was in charge.
I installed a doggie door the next day. Both of us are happy

Wait 'till the raccoons find it ;O)

I had that trouble with the raccoons raiding the cat food. Put it (18 lb
bag) in a large container with a latch.

Next night I heard a noise and went to investigate. Found two in the
container just looking at me, wondering why I was awake. They had no
fear of me or the cats and obviously no problem with the latch.

Jeff

The doggie door leads to the deck. I made a gate for the deck. I close
the gate at night and open it during the day.
Neighbor has the same kind of set-up, and wasn't he surprised when a
family of raccoons came in one night to look around, while the family
was up watching TV.
My deck is really a poop
deck. I am amazed the little seven pound five year old yorkie is still
alive. Still someday a wandering coyote will get him. So far coyotes,
hawks, foxes and cars have not got him. The little dog kills a mouse or
two each month. Plays with the mouse until it is dead.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:


Dogs Rule and are trainable
I understand that the dogs are in charge of the pack, but why would you
put them on a train?
To be honest, the dog has me well trained. The first day I got my little
dog, he kept barking to go outside. After a dozen times during the day,
I was getting tired of the routine and for for the first time I said NO!
He looked me in eye and walked to my floor planter and peed on it! The
little rat has some intelligence! He showed me who was in charge.
I installed a doggie door the next day. Both of us are happy

Wait 'till the raccoons find it ;O)

I had that trouble with the raccoons raiding the cat food. Put it (18 lb
bag) in a large container with a latch.

Next night I heard a noise and went to investigate. Found two in the
container just looking at me, wondering why I was awake. They had no
fear of me or the cats and obviously no problem with the latch.

Jeff

For problematic raccoons use the same method for foxes.
I rarely use my personal site: http://www.nadrhel.com/

--
Enjoy Life... Dan

Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.

In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:


Dogs Rule and are trainable
I understand that the dogs are in charge of the pack, but why would you
put them on a train?
To be honest, the dog has me well trained. The first day I got my little
dog, he kept barking to go outside. After a dozen times during the day,
I was getting tired of the routine and for for the first time I said NO!
He looked me in eye and walked to my floor planter and peed on it! The
little rat has some intelligence! He showed me who was in charge.
I installed a doggie door the next day. Both of us are happy

Wait 'till the raccoons find it ;O)

I had that trouble with the raccoons raiding the cat food. Put it (18 lb
bag) in a large container with a latch.

Next night I heard a noise and went to investigate. Found two in the
container just looking at me, wondering why I was awake. They had no
fear of me or the cats and obviously no problem with the latch.

Jeff

For problematic raccoons use the same method for foxes.
Taxidermy?
I rarely use my personal site: http://www.nadrhel.com/
I like Jack Daniels, and we have similar taste in foot wear.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html