I'm getting the garden ready, seeds are started.

I'd like to do just organic fertilizer this year. It's not easy to
find, Miracle Grow has one, as did one other brand that I don't
recognize. These seem to be have little to no K and P and are almost all N.

Since I'm a city boy, what should I be looking for? I'm just growing
the usual "garden variety" veggies. Tomatoes, assorted cucurbits and a
few blueberries and a peach.

Wally World has a product called Earthgro Organic Humus and Manure,
that's .05 .05 .05 at $1.50 for 40 pound bag. Consistency looks good in
that it doesn't seem to have much, if any, wood in it. Soil (Atlanta Ga)
is still clayey (particularly if I go down a foot). I've used up the mulch.

Should I amend heavily with this? Will I need more fertilizer later?
To start with?

Jeff

In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

I'm getting the garden ready, seeds are started.

I'd like to do just organic fertilizer this year. It's not easy to
find, Miracle Grow has one, as did one other brand that I don't
recognize. These seem to be have little to no K and P and are almost all N.

Since I'm a city boy, what should I be looking for? I'm just growing
the usual "garden variety" veggies. Tomatoes, assorted cucurbits and a
few blueberries and a peach.

Wally World has a product called Earthgro Organic Humus and Manure,
that's .05 .05 .05 at $1.50 for 40 pound bag. Consistency looks good in
that it doesn't seem to have much, if any, wood in it. Soil (Atlanta Ga)
is still clayey (particularly if I go down a foot). I've used up the mulch.

Should I amend heavily with this? Will I need more fertilizer later?
To start with?

Jeff

Tomatoes: 18 lbs chicken manure/100 sq. ft. Do not fertilize after
flowering.
Cucurbits: "organic" fish emulsion, per label
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Jeff Thies wrote:
I'm getting the garden ready, seeds are started.

I'd like to do just organic fertilizer this year. It's not easy to
find, Miracle Grow has one, as did one other brand that I don't
recognize. These seem to be have little to no K and P and are almost
all N.
Since I'm a city boy, what should I be looking for? I'm just growing
the usual "garden variety" veggies. Tomatoes, assorted cucurbits and a
few blueberries and a peach.

Wally World has a product called Earthgro Organic Humus and Manure,
that's .05 .05 .05 at $1.50 for 40 pound bag. Consistency looks good
in that it doesn't seem to have much, if any, wood in it. Soil
(Atlanta Ga) is still clayey (particularly if I go down a foot). I've
used up the mulch.
Should I amend heavily with this? Will I need more fertilizer later?
To start with?

Jeff

Look for a dried chicken manure product. Make your own compost. Take a
drive out of town and look for bagged horse/cow manure. Look for urban
stables that sell their bedding.

David

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

I'm getting the garden ready, seeds are started.

I'd like to do just organic fertilizer this year. It's not easy to
find, Miracle Grow has one, as did one other brand that I don't
recognize. These seem to be have little to no K and P and are almost all N.

Since I'm a city boy, what should I be looking for? I'm just growing
the usual "garden variety" veggies. Tomatoes, assorted cucurbits and a
few blueberries and a peach.

Wally World has a product called Earthgro Organic Humus and Manure,
that's .05 .05 .05 at $1.50 for 40 pound bag. Consistency looks good in
that it doesn't seem to have much, if any, wood in it. Soil (Atlanta Ga)
is still clayey (particularly if I go down a foot). I've used up the mulch.

Should I amend heavily with this? Will I need more fertilizer later?
To start with?

Jeff

Tomatoes: 18 lbs chicken manure/100 sq. ft. Do not fertilize after
flowering.

I don't believe I have ever seen this anywhere, in any form. And I live
in a state that raises a lot of chickens. Perhaps I need to look much
farther out. Certainly not within 20 miles.

Cucurbits: "organic" fish emulsion, per label

This, I think I can find.

Jeff

Jeff Thies wrote:
Billy wrote:

Tomatoes: 18 lbs chicken manure/100 sq. ft. Do not fertilize after
flowering.

I don't believe I have ever seen this anywhere, in any form. And I
live in a state that raises a lot of chickens. Perhaps I need to
look
much farther out. Certainly not within 20 miles.

You can find all kinds of organic fertilizer in the Georgia Farmer's
Market Bulletin. It's free to Georgia residents, so order your own
personal subscription.

In the meantime, here are the current ads:
http://www.agr.state.ga.us/mbads/

Tom J

Tom J wrote:
Jeff Thies wrote:
Billy wrote:

Tomatoes: 18 lbs chicken manure/100 sq. ft. Do not fertilize after
flowering.
I don't believe I have ever seen this anywhere, in any form. And I
live in a state that raises a lot of chickens. Perhaps I need to
look
much farther out. Certainly not within 20 miles.

You can find all kinds of organic fertilizer in the Georgia Farmer's
Market Bulletin. It's free to Georgia residents, so order your own
personal subscription.

In the meantime, here are the current ads:
http://www.agr.state.ga.us/mbads/

Thanks, I had no idea...

No chicken manure though (wait I did find one 60 miles out)...

I did note that aside from this individual:

Aged horse manu $20 a scoop, $30 a pickup truck load.

Most people just want to get rid of their manure!

Jeff

Tom J

In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

I'm getting the garden ready, seeds are started.

I'd like to do just organic fertilizer this year. It's not easy to
find, Miracle Grow has one, as did one other brand that I don't
recognize. These seem to be have little to no K and P and are almost all N.

Since I'm a city boy, what should I be looking for? I'm just growing
the usual "garden variety" veggies. Tomatoes, assorted cucurbits and a
few blueberries and a peach.

Wally World has a product called Earthgro Organic Humus and Manure,
that's .05 .05 .05 at $1.50 for 40 pound bag. Consistency looks good in
that it doesn't seem to have much, if any, wood in it. Soil (Atlanta Ga)
is still clayey (particularly if I go down a foot). I've used up the mulch.

Should I amend heavily with this? Will I need more fertilizer later?
To start with?

Jeff

Tomatoes: 18 lbs chicken manure/100 sq. ft. Do not fertilize after
flowering.

I don't believe I have ever seen this anywhere, in any form. And I live
in a state that raises a lot of chickens. Perhaps I need to look much
farther out. Certainly not within 20 miles.

Cucurbits: "organic" fish emulsion, per label

This, I think I can find.

Jeff

If you can't find chicken manure (the mind boggles), see if you can find
one of these:
Manure Chicken Diary cow Horse Steer Rabbit Sheep
N 1.1 .257 .70 .70 2.4 .70
P .80 .15 .30 .30 1.4 .30
K .50 .25 .60 .40 .60 .90
Http://www.plantea.com/manuer.htm

Manure Alfalfa Fish Emulsion
N 3 5
P 1 1
K 2 1


If you can find steer manure, divide .7 into 1.1 = 1.57
Then mutiply the 18 lbs of chicken manure that you would have used 18 X
1.57 to get 28 lbs of steer manure/100 sq. ft. to approximate your
nitrogen needs.
--
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/6...e_us_military/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

[quote='Billy[_10_];883039']In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

I'm getting the garden ready, seeds are started.

I'd like to do just organic fertilizer this year. It's not easy to
find, Miracle Grow has one, as did one other brand that I don't
recognize. These seem to be have little to no K and P and are almost all N.

Since I'm a city boy, what should I be looking for? I'm just growing
the usual "garden variety" veggies. Tomatoes, assorted cucurbits and a
few blueberries and a peach.

Wally World has a product called Earthgro Organic Humus and Manure,
that's .05 .05 .05 at $1.50 for 40 pound bag. Consistency looks good in
that it doesn't seem to have much, if any, wood in it. Soil (Atlanta Ga)
is still clayey (particularly if I go down a foot). I've used up the mulch.

Should I amend heavily with this? Will I need more fertilizer later?
To start with?

Jeff

Tomatoes: 18 lbs chicken manure/100 sq. ft. Do not fertilize after
flowering.

I don't believe I have ever seen this anywhere, in any form. And I live
in a state that raises a lot of chickens. Perhaps I need to look much
farther out. Certainly not within 20 miles.

Cucurbits: "organic" fish emulsion, per label

This, I think I can find.

Jeff

Jeff,
This is a bit late, but you might consider a different strategy.
In the clay soil plant a mint *and* a N fixer this fall to break up the soil, a strategy I once used in Ohio clay soil.
In the spring find a seller of organic amendments. If Atlanta picks up green/yard waste, go to the folks the city uses and buy the stuff that's 1-2 yrs old. dig down 1-2 ft and add at least 6-8".
you'll have to rinse/repeat for a few years but at least your food will be safe to eat. OTOH that chicken poop food? I'll pass.