https://www.agronomy.org/news-media/...2010/0802/396/

"Initially, biochar application produced inconsistent effects. Several
early samples produced greater nitrous oxide emissions and nitrate
leaching than the control samples.
*
However, during the third wetting*drying cycle, four months after
biochar application, all biochars reduced nitrous oxide emissions by up
to 73%, and reduced ammonium leaching by up to 94%. The researchers
suggest that reductions in nitrous oxide emissions and nitrogen leaching
over time were due to ³ageing² of the biochars in soil."
*

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
What use one more wake up call?
globalvoicesonline.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

Bill who putters wrote:

https://www.agronomy.org/news-media/...2010/0802/396/

"Initially, biochar application produced inconsistent effects. Several
early samples produced greater nitrous oxide emissions and nitrate
leaching than the control samples.

However, during the third wetting*drying cycle, four months after
biochar application, all biochars reduced nitrous oxide emissions by
up to 73%, and reduced ammonium leaching by up to 94%. The researchers
suggest that reductions in nitrous oxide emissions and nitrogen
leaching over time were due to ³ageing² of the biochars in soil."

thanks Bill, i'm always interested in dirty news.

when visiting my Dad the other day he handed me a
book called _The Lost City of Z_, quite a fun read
and i'm sure glad i wasn't an Amazon explorer. i'd not
have lasted more than a few hours...

though it is good to read that the candiru is really not
what the book makes it out to be, still a rather squirmy
read in parts.


songbird

like wheeling out the good old slash and burn technology under a
different light?

they never mention the pollution caused in making the stuff once put
into the atmosphee can't be taken back (smoke and gasses not
contained), nor the transporation of it from point of making to where
it is to be used and also the transporting etc.,. of trees to the burn
site, also the preassure put on forests this becomes another reason to
deal in deforestation.

icing does make the cake hey?

the picture on this site speaks a thousand words:

http://www.biochar.org/joomla/

also see my page for pic's of homemade incinerators all in the name of
bio-char (quiet a back yard industry burgeoning to make and supply
like to other gardeners):

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/permaculture_essay.htm

scroll down.


On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:11:26 -0400, Bill who putters
wrote:
snipped
--

Matthew 25:13 KJV
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither
the day nor the hour wherein the Son
of man cometh"

Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, watch and pray:
for ye know not when the time is".

len

With peace and brightest of blessings,

"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

In article ,
gardenlen wrote:

like wheeling out the good old slash and burn technology under a
different light?

they never mention the pollution caused in making the stuff once put
into the atmosphee can't be taken back (smoke and gasses not
contained), nor the transporation of it from point of making to where
it is to be used and also the transporting etc.,. of trees to the burn
site, also the preassure put on forests this becomes another reason to
deal in deforestation.

icing does make the cake hey?

the picture on this site speaks a thousand words:

http://www.biochar.org/joomla/

also see my page for pic's of homemade incinerators all in the name of
bio-char (quiet a back yard industry burgeoning to make and supply
like to other gardeners):

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/permaculture_essay.htm

scroll down.


On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:11:26 -0400, Bill who putters
wrote:
snipped
--

Matthew 25:13 KJV
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither
the day nor the hour wherein the Son
of man cometh"

Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, watch and pray:
for ye know not when the time is".

len

With peace and brightest of blessings,

"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

You snipped so well that all I know is your involved with Jesus.

Slash and burn worked and it may offer some useful alterative. You
seem hyper.

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
What use one more wake up call?
globalvoicesonline.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article ,
gardenlen wrote:

like wheeling out the good old slash and burn technology under a
different light?

they never mention the pollution caused in making the stuff once put
into the atmosphee can't be taken back (smoke and gasses not
contained), nor the transporation of it from point of making to where
it is to be used and also the transporting etc.,. of trees to the burn
site, also the preassure put on forests this becomes another reason to
deal in deforestation.

icing does make the cake hey?

the picture on this site speaks a thousand words:

http://www.biochar.org/joomla/

also see my page for pic's of homemade incinerators all in the name of
bio-char (quiet a back yard industry burgeoning to make and supply
like to other gardeners):

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/permaculture_essay.htm

scroll down.


On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:11:26 -0400, Bill who putters
wrote:
snipped
--

Matthew 25:13 KJV
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither
the day nor the hour wherein the Son
of man cometh"

Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, watch and pray:
for ye know not when the time is".

len

With peace and brightest of blessings,

"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

You snipped so well that all I know is your involved with Jesus.

Slash and burn worked and it may offer some useful alterative. You
seem hyper.

Read this again http://www.biochar.org/joomla/


Jesus Is Just Alright 2:11 Byrds 20 Essential Tracks From the Boxed
Set: 1965-90 Rock/Pop MPEG audio file 80 3 7/6/10 5:24 PM

Jesus is Just Alright with Me 4:36 Doobie Brothers MPEG audio
file

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
What use one more wake up call?
globalvoicesonline.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

In article ,
gardenlen wrote:

like wheeling out the good old slash and burn technology under a
different light?

But this isn't slash and burn, it's slash and char.

they never mention the pollution caused in making the stuff once put
into the atmosphee can't be taken back (smoke and gasses not
contained), nor the transporation of it from point of making to where
it is to be used and also the transporting etc.,. of trees to the burn
site, also the preassure put on forests this becomes another reason to
deal in deforestation.

There is the Carbon Cycle, and CO2 that goes into the atmosphere, is
eventually sequestered by chlorophyl and turned to sugar, which may be
twisted again into cellulose, which can be chard and sequestered, as I
said, for up to 50,000 years, long after a typical tree has grown,
fallen, and rotted away to its constituent nutrients.

We do need forests back as part of the mix in sequestering CO2.

In the making of charcoal there is little smoke. Think a luau pit with a
big fire (and a pig), then covered over with dirt to continue without
oxygen, and you have charcoal (and a cooked pig).

icing does make the cake hey?

the picture on this site speaks a thousand words:

http://www.biochar.org/joomla/

also see my page for pic's of homemade incinerators all in the name of
bio-char (quiet a back yard industry burgeoning to make and supply
like to other gardeners):

Typically, here in California, the indigenous would start a big fire in
a cave, and then seal the cave up, to keep the oxygen out (and,
unintentionally, to keep the smoke in).

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/permaculture_essay.htm

scroll down.


On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:11:26 -0400, Bill who putters
wrote:
snipped
--

Matthew 25:13 KJV
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither
the day nor the hour wherein the Son
of man cometh"

Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, watch and pray:
for ye know not when the time is".

len

With peace and brightest of blessings,

"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article ,
gardenlen wrote:

like wheeling out the good old slash and burn technology under a
different light?

they never mention the pollution caused in making the stuff once put
into the atmosphee can't be taken back (smoke and gasses not
contained), nor the transporation of it from point of making to where
it is to be used and also the transporting etc.,. of trees to the burn
site, also the preassure put on forests this becomes another reason to
deal in deforestation.

icing does make the cake hey?

the picture on this site speaks a thousand words:

http://www.biochar.org/joomla/

also see my page for pic's of homemade incinerators all in the name of
bio-char (quiet a back yard industry burgeoning to make and supply
like to other gardeners):

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/permaculture_essay.htm

scroll down.


On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:11:26 -0400, Bill who putters
wrote:
snipped
--

Matthew 25:13 KJV
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither
the day nor the hour wherein the Son
of man cometh"

Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, watch and pray:
for ye know not when the time is".

len

With peace and brightest of blessings,

"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

You snipped so well that all I know is your involved with Jesus.

Slash and burn worked and it may offer some useful alterative. You
seem hyper.

Read this again http://www.biochar.org/joomla/


Jesus Is Just Alright 2:11 Byrds 20 Essential Tracks From the Boxed
Set: 1965-90 Rock/Pop MPEG audio file 80 3 7/6/10 5:24 PM

Jesus is Just Alright with Me 4:36 Doobie Brothers MPEG audio
file

Oh Happy Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD2D6eter7M
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

gardenlen wrote:
like wheeling out the good old slash and burn technology under a
different light?


Slash and burn is not necessarily destructive. It has been sustainable in
the past when population density was lower and the resting time between
burns in any given place was long.

David

David Hare-Scott wrote:
gardenlen wrote:

like wheeling out the good old slash and burn technology under a
different light?

Slash and burn is not necessarily destructive. It has been
sustainable in the past when population density was lower and the
resting time between burns in any given place was long.

at least more of what is chopped down is kept when
using biochar and has a chance of improving the soil.
with slash and burn nutrients run off the top and then
whatever slight improvement is there is gone within a
few seasons.


songbird