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I am interested in the practice of growing garlic, I mean real garlic not
elephant garlic etc. Around here some have planted already (late summer)
and others will not plant for more than a month (autumn). There are
commercial offerings of "seed" which say plant also in spring but that also
says 16-20 weeks to maturity.

I will be planting in a few weeks about the equinox and expect to harvest in
spring about 24-26 weeks away. This works very well for me being in the
southern hemisphere (so it grows though winter) in a warm temperate climate,
about zone 9b.

So if you actually grow garlic (compared with reading about it) when do
plant and harvest? What is the relationship to your seasons? What is your
climate like?

David

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

So if you actually grow garlic (compared with reading about it) when do
plant and harvest? What is the relationship to your seasons? What is your
climate like?


First of all, where are you? I'm guessing from the seasons stated that
you're in the southern hemisphere?

I grow a number of varieties of garlic in the northeastern U.S.; mostly
hardneck, but a few softneck. I plant in late October into early November,
which is a good month before the ground freezes to any degree. Winter lows
hit -10F to sometimes -20F or lower.
One point: unless you have pretty cold winters (substantial time below
freezing), many hardneck garlics will not do well; they need that dormant
period. It's always best to get your planting stock from as close to home
as possible.
You're welcome to look at my personal web page, in the .sig below for
spreadsheets and what information I've posted.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
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Gary Woods wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

So if you actually grow garlic (compared with reading about it) when
do plant and harvest? What is the relationship to your seasons?
What is your climate like?


First of all, where are you? I'm guessing from the seasons stated
that you're in the southern hemisphere?


In the part you snipped I said

"I will be planting in a few weeks about the equinox and expect to harvest
in
spring about 24-26 weeks away. This works very well for me being in the
southern hemisphere (so it grows though winter) in a warm temperate climate,
about zone 9b."


I grow a number of varieties of garlic in the northeastern U.S.;
mostly hardneck, but a few softneck. I plant in late October into
early November, which is a good month before the ground freezes to
any degree. Winter lows hit -10F to sometimes -20F or lower.
One point: unless you have pretty cold winters (substantial time
below freezing), many hardneck garlics will not do well; they need
that dormant period. It's always best to get your planting stock
from as close to home
as possible.
You're welcome to look at my personal web page, in the .sig below for
spreadsheets and what information I've posted.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at
home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420'
elevation. NY WO G


So you also plant in Autumn but your winter is much colder than mine so in
mid winter you would get no growth, whereas here it grows all winter long.

When do you harvest?

David

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

So if you actually grow garlic (compared with reading about it) when do
plant and harvest? What is the relationship to your seasons? What is
your
climate like?


First of all, where are you? I'm guessing from the seasons stated that
you're in the southern hemisphere?


He said that he was in the southern hemisphere - you snipped that out.


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I am interested in the practice of growing garlic, I mean real garlic not
elephant garlic etc. Around here some have planted already (late summer)
and others will not plant for more than a month (autumn). There are
commercial offerings of "seed" which say plant also in spring but that also
says 16-20 weeks to maturity.

I will be planting in a few weeks about the equinox and expect to harvest
in spring about 24-26 weeks away. This works very well for me being in
the southern hemisphere (so it grows though winter) in a warm temperate
climate, about zone 9b.

So if you actually grow garlic (compared with reading about it) when do
plant and harvest?


Here, south of you, the old adage is to plant on the shortest day of the
year and harvest on the longest day of the year. In reality, this should be
interpreted to mean spring or late winter planting.




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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

He said that he was in the southern hemisphere - you snipped that out.

I saw that after I posted, along with the moderate climate, which means
looking for varieties that don't need very cold winters.


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So if you actually grow garlic (compared with reading about it) when do
plant and harvest? *What is the relationship to your seasons? *What is your
climate like?

David


As you can imagine much depends on the variety and soil/climate. It
is much different an approach in the cool, wet, clay acidic soils of
the Pacific Northwest than your climate. ours here are mostly softneck
varieties.

But to your questions I planted several different varieties in various
parts of the yard in the mid to late fall, Try to get them in before
the rains come at Duck season. but not necessary, just as long as I
get them in before Mid December I have some to use the next season.
Most of these I let go native, some are companions, some are just
green sprouts left too long in the veggie bow that I plant among the
flower boxes. I even have a little patch near the marjoram used for
garlic chives now, came up same time as the crocus, the other patches
along with reds and shallots will grow to maturity in a corner of the
garden.

This is probably on your reading list: http://www.garlic.com.au/growing.html

This is from OR, a more southern and dryer climate than here in the
Puget Sound/ Mt Rainier swirl but good background info:

http://nwrec.hort.oregonstate.edu/garlic.html

shallot tricks/tips for the PNW:
http://www.rainyside.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5025
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Gunner wrote:
So if you actually grow garlic (compared with reading about it) when
do plant and harvest? What is the relationship to your seasons? What
is your climate like?

David


As you can imagine much depends on the variety and soil/climate. It
is much different an approach in the cool, wet, clay acidic soils of
the Pacific Northwest than your climate. ours here are mostly softneck
varieties.

But to your questions I planted several different varieties in various
parts of the yard in the mid to late fall, Try to get them in before
the rains come at Duck season. but not necessary, just as long as I
get them in before Mid December I have some to use the next season.
Most of these I let go native, some are companions, some are just
green sprouts left too long in the veggie bow that I plant among the
flower boxes. I even have a little patch near the marjoram used for
garlic chives now, came up same time as the crocus, the other patches
along with reds and shallots will grow to maturity in a corner of the
garden.


thanks

This is probably on your reading list:
http://www.garlic.com.au/growing.html


Rather superficial.

This is from OR, a more southern and dryer climate than here in the
Puget Sound/ Mt Rainier swirl but good background info:

http://nwrec.hort.oregonstate.edu/garlic.html


Quite interesting, starting to develope the relationship between climate and
planting times.

shallot tricks/tips for the PNW:
http://www.rainyside.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5025


Not so relevant.

D

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shallot tricks/tips for the PNW:
http://www.rainyside.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5025


Not so relevant.

D-


Sorry, I tend to group all our allium together. I thought the
Canadian link contained in the forum was pretty good info, especially
from a G/H view: http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/...1-019.htm#crop
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