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I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?
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duggenole wrote:
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc? That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. David |
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duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote: ;966864']duggenole wrote:- I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?- That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types. If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library. D |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote: duggenole wrote: 'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote: ;966864']duggenole wrote:- I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?- That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types. If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library. D Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store bought. I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to greenhouses. You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will require watering more often. In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running |
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Billy wrote:
In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: duggenole wrote: 'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote: ;966864']duggenole wrote:- I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?- That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types. If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library. D Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store bought. The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in gardening. I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to greenhouses. You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will require watering more often. In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is: Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn? A. To be a good observer. D |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: duggenole wrote: 'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote: ;966864']duggenole wrote:- I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?- That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types. If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library. D Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store bought. The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in gardening. . . . . ? You were generalizing about generalizations? I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners). I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to greenhouses. You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will require watering more often. In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is: Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn? A. To be a good observer. Gotta be there to observe. D How much coffee you drinking these days? -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running |
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Billy wrote:
In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: duggenole wrote: 'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote: ;966864']duggenole wrote:- I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?- That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types. If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library. D Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store bought. The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in gardening. . . . . ? You were generalizing about generalizations? I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners). I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to greenhouses. You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will require watering more often. In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is: Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn? A. To be a good observer. Gotta be there to observe. D How much coffee you drinking these days? Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you said. Do we have a problem? D |
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Billy wrote:
.... Gotta be there to observe. not if you can afford many cameras, microphones and know how to do digital filtering. i'm still hoping for an air compressor and a nice remote aiming tripod that can shoot peas at the buggers. i kinda like the idea of growing my own ammo. songbird |
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songbird wrote: Billy wrote: ... Gotta be there to observe. not if you can afford many cameras, microphones and know how to do digital filtering. The Ney York Police Dept. is taking up gardening? What's the catch? i'm still hoping for an air compressor and a nice remote aiming tripod that can shoot peas at the buggers. i kinda like the idea of growing my own ammo. What buggers are we talking about? songbird -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: duggenole wrote: 'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote: ;966864']duggenole wrote:- I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?- That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types. If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library. D Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store bought. The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in gardening. . . . . ? You were generalizing about generalizations? I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners). I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to greenhouses. You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will require watering more often. In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is: Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn? A. To be a good observer. Gotta be there to observe. D How much coffee you drinking these days? Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you said. Do we have a problem? D Don't get me started ;O) -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running |
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Billy wrote:
In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: duggenole wrote: 'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote: ;966864']duggenole wrote:- I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?- That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types. If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library. D Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store bought. The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in gardening. . . . . ? You were generalizing about generalizations? I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners). I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to greenhouses. You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will require watering more often. In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is: Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn? A. To be a good observer. Gotta be there to observe. D How much coffee you drinking these days? Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you said. Do we have a problem? D Don't get me started ;O) Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer. D |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: duggenole wrote: 'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote: ;966864']duggenole wrote:- I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?- That is a very general question. How about a little more information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have, its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you. DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types. If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library. D Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store bought. The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in gardening. . . . . ? You were generalizing about generalizations? I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners). I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to greenhouses. You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will require watering more often. In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow." Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is: Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn? A. To be a good observer. Gotta be there to observe. D How much coffee you drinking these days? Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you said. Do we have a problem? D Don't get me started ;O) Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer. D Only in my spare time. -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running |
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"Billy" wrote in message
... In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: Don't get me started ;O) Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer. D Only in my spare time. :-)) Do you have access to any of those juicy files kept by J Edgar Hoover? |
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wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: Don't get me started ;O) Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer. D Only in my spare time. :-)) Do you have access to any of those juicy files kept by J Edgar Hoover? Hang on. With any luck Julian will be posting those KGB files shortly. Uh, I mean FBI files ;O) -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running |
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