What makes a long life trellis? Metal? Wood? Beams?

I live in a pretty dry climate, 5A zone.

We're putting in the garden, and I want to make a wall of trellis for
whatever we want to plant on it. I just wanted to do this once, so was
looking for long lasting suggestions.

Someone up the road from me advertised for some well drilling pipe, and
sucker rods for fences. Is that any good? I'm a retired welder, so if the
cost is okay .......?

Are creosoted railroad ties any good? We want the wall to block vision, but
also to put some grapes, berries, cukes, and other good trellis growers, and
rotate them around.

Steve

Steve B said:


What makes a long life trellis? Metal? Wood? Beams?

I live in a pretty dry climate, 5A zone.

We're putting in the garden, and I want to make a wall of trellis for
whatever we want to plant on it. I just wanted to do this once, so was
looking for long lasting suggestions.

Someone up the road from me advertised for some well drilling pipe, and
sucker rods for fences. Is that any good? I'm a retired welder, so if the
cost is okay .......?

Are creosoted railroad ties any good? We want the wall to block vision, but
also to put some grapes, berries, cukes, and other good trellis growers, and
rotate them around.

For extremely long life, metal.

I have two towers made from copper pipe (in my ornamental gardens) and
several moveable trellises** in the vegetable garden framed with thin-wall
galvanized conduit and one made from natural gas pipe (heavy). The
garden trellises have webbing made from "tomato cage" fence wire, which
has had to be replaced once. If I'd used concrete reinforcing wire it would
likely not have needed replacing yet.

These have all lasted for many years, while some decorative PVC and
treated-wood tellises rapidly declined.

**These have extended "legs" which are slipped into larger diameter tubing
which has been sunk into the ground.

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Sorry to intrude, but what do u mean by a 5A zone ?

DanDanUK wrote:
Hello, I'm new to gardening and really want to learn more, it all
started when my mum bought me some packets of seeds and said here have
ago planting them with the kids at the weekend kids get mucky and have
loads of fun doing it, so I thought yeah why not, so I bought a
propagator and we planted so
E pepper seeds, I also planted some spuds I had chittin we also
planted some radish seeds, non have broken surface yet but we only
planted the 6 days ago, tomorrow I'm making another raised bed 8 x 4
ft I'm buying some more top soil and compost to mix the compost is
miracle grow , but I would like to start off with something that's
pretty easy to grow and me and the kids will see flourish over the
forth coming months so any help tips or advice you can throw my way
would be very much apreciated many thanks regs Dan

Join the local library and read books on the subject

Join the local garden club and talk to people who know how to grow things in
your soil and climate.

Ask specific questions here and mention your locality and conditions.

David

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"Steve B" writes:
What makes a long life trellis? Metal? Wood? Beams?

A lot will depend on what you want it to hold, and how you want it
to look. For small diameter stuff, probably non-corroding metal
-- copper, aluminum, galvanized steel. For heavier stuff (wisteria),
thick pieced of rot resistant wood are good -- cedar, cyprus -- but
not cheap.

I live in a pretty dry climate, 5A zone.

We're putting in the garden, and I want to make a wall of trellis for
whatever we want to plant on it. I just wanted to do this once, so was
looking for long lasting suggestions.

For plant cages to hold annual vegetables, I use reinforcing mesh.
It works very well, but isn't very pretty. After about a year it
is dark rust colored. I kind of like it, though I suspect my
neighbors aren't as pleased. The oldest I have are about 5 years.
I can't see any reason that they won't last another 10.

Someone up the road from me advertised for some well drilling pipe, and
sucker rods for fences. Is that any good? I'm a retired welder, so if the
cost is okay .......?

Are creosoted railroad ties any good?

Creosote is a carcinogen, so lots of people avoid it. If you don't
care, it is also an irritant. I've never had a problem, but some
people get rashes.

Personally, I haven't seen a source for used ties for over 15 years.

We want the wall to block vision, but
also to put some grapes, berries, cukes, and other good trellis growers, and
rotate them around.

Steve




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| a long time ago

On Thursday, March 7, 2013 9:29:50 PM UTC-6, Steve B wrote:
What makes a long life trellis? Metal? Wood? Beams?

I live in a pretty dry climate, 5A zone.

We're putting in the garden, and I want to make a wall of trellis for
whatever we want to plant on it. I just wanted to do this once, so was
looking for long lasting suggestions.

Someone up the road from me advertised for some well drilling pipe, and
sucker rods for fences. Is that any good? I'm a retired welder, so if the
cost is okay .......?

Are creosoted railroad ties any good? We want the wall to block vision, but
also to put some grapes, berries, cukes, and other good trellis growers, and
rotate them around.

Steve

Hard to beat PVC. You glue it together, and it lasts pretty much forever. Schedule 120 will hold pretty heavy stuff. You could probably trellis pumpkins on that!

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harris wrote:

On Thursday, March 7, 2013 9:29:50 PM UTC-6, Steve B wrote:
What makes a long life trellis? Metal? Wood? Beams?

I live in a pretty dry climate, 5A zone.

We're putting in the garden, and I want to make a wall of trellis for
whatever we want to plant on it. I just wanted to do this once, so was
looking for long lasting suggestions.

Someone up the road from me advertised for some well drilling pipe, and
sucker rods for fences. Is that any good? I'm a retired welder, so if the
cost is okay .......?

Are creosoted railroad ties any good? We want the wall to block vision,
but
also to put some grapes, berries, cukes, and other good trellis growers,
and
rotate them around.

Steve

Hard to beat PVC. You glue it together, and it lasts pretty much forever.
Schedule 120 will hold pretty heavy stuff. You could probably trellis
pumpkins on that!

If the food the trellis grows is the most important aspect, then metal
or PVC supporting a lattice of of wires, or wire fencing would probably
give you the most longevity. If you wanted something more decorative,
then I would suggest a wooden frame.

Making Bentwood Trellises, Arbors, Gates & Fences (Rustic Home Series)
(Paperback)
by Jim Long
http://www.amazon.com/Making-Bentwoo...es/dp/15801705
1X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272814682&sr=1-1

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thomaspoul wrote:
DanDanUK;979133 Wrote:
Hello, I'm new to gardening and really want to learn more, it all
started when my mum bought me some packets of seeds and said here
have ago planting them with the kids at the weekend kids get mucky
and have loads of fun doing it, so I thought yeah why not, so I
bought a propagator and we planted so
E pepper seeds, I also planted some spuds I had chittin we also
planted some radish seeds, non have broken surface yet but we only
planted the 6 days ago, tomorrow I'm making another raised bed 8 x 4
ft I'm buying some more top soil and compost to mix the compost is
miracle grow , but I would like to start off with something that's
pretty easy to grow and me and the kids will see flourish over the
forth coming months so any help tips or advice you can throw my way
would be very much apreciated many thanks regs Dan


hey i am too trying learn more from this website.....this forum is
really usefull for new gardeners.

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