Terry Coombs wrote:
someday I'll actually get strawberries to grow . This is the 2nd time
I've tried , and I'll admit that WM isn't the best source . Twice now
I've purchased and planted berry starts the sucker roots they
package in bags of 10 with the same results . They apparently rot in
the ground and never come up .
I guess if I really want strawberries I'm going to have to get a
couple of plants and let 'em spread on their own . I'm wondering if
the cold and wet weather we've had is the reason ... both of my
'maters have frost damage , though both seem to be recovering and
putting out new gowth . And the green onions planted the same day are
doing great .

Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after the last
frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

D

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Terry Coombs wrote:
someday I'll actually get strawberries to grow . This is the 2nd time
I've tried , and I'll admit that WM isn't the best source . Twice now
I've purchased and planted berry starts the sucker roots they
package in bags of 10 with the same results . They apparently rot in
the ground and never come up .
I guess if I really want strawberries I'm going to have to get a
couple of plants and let 'em spread on their own . I'm wondering if
the cold and wet weather we've had is the reason ... both of my
'maters have frost damage , though both seem to be recovering and
putting out new gowth . And the green onions planted the same day are
doing great .

Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after the last
frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

D

We've been told numerous time by numerous locals that the last frost is
*never* later than April 15th ... yet it froze/frosted here at least 3
nights in the last 3 weeks - as the blackened leaves on my tomatoes can
attest and the wife covered them on the coldest-predicted nights . I
noticed today that one guy on the highway out to our place always has a
very nice garden has nothing green showing yet . It has been unusually cold
this spring , been commented on a lot on rec.birds .
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Snag

Terry Coombs wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Terry Coombs wrote:
someday I'll actually get strawberries to grow . This is the 2nd
time I've tried , and I'll admit that WM isn't the best source .
Twice now I've purchased and planted berry starts the sucker roots
they package in bags of 10 with the same results . They apparently
rot in the ground and never come up .
I guess if I really want strawberries I'm going to have to get a
couple of plants and let 'em spread on their own . I'm wondering if
the cold and wet weather we've had is the reason ... both of my
'maters have frost damage , though both seem to be recovering and
putting out new gowth . And the green onions planted the same day
are doing great .

Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after
the last frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

D

We've been told numerous time by numerous locals that the last frost
is *never* later than April 15th ... yet it froze/frosted here at
least 3 nights in the last 3 weeks - as the blackened leaves on my
tomatoes can attest and the wife covered them on the
coldest-predicted nights . I noticed today that one guy on the
highway out to our place always has a very nice garden has nothing
green showing yet . It has been unusually cold this spring , been
commented on a lot on rec.birds .

The times they are a changing....

D

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Terry Coombs wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Terry Coombs wrote:
someday I'll actually get strawberries to grow . This is the 2nd
time I've tried , and I'll admit that WM isn't the best source .
Twice now I've purchased and planted berry starts the sucker roots
they package in bags of 10 with the same results . They apparently
rot in the ground and never come up .
I guess if I really want strawberries I'm going to have to get a
couple of plants and let 'em spread on their own . I'm wondering if
the cold and wet weather we've had is the reason ... both of my
'maters have frost damage , though both seem to be recovering and
putting out new gowth . And the green onions planted the same day
are doing great .

Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after
the last frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

D

We've been told numerous time by numerous locals that the last frost
is *never* later than April 15th ... yet it froze/frosted here at
least 3 nights in the last 3 weeks - as the blackened leaves on my
tomatoes can attest and the wife covered them on the
coldest-predicted nights . I noticed today that one guy on the
highway out to our place always has a very nice garden has nothing
green showing yet . It has been unusually cold this spring , been
commented on a lot on rec.birds .

The times they are a changing....

D

It's that damned Global Warming that's causing all this cold weather I
tell ya !!
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Snag

Terry Coombs wrote:
....
It's that damned Global Warming that's causing all this cold weather I
tell ya !!

for some parts of the continents this
will be true.


songbird

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Terry Coombs wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Terry Coombs wrote:
someday I'll actually get strawberries to grow . This is the 2nd
time I've tried , and I'll admit that WM isn't the best source .
Twice now I've purchased and planted berry starts the sucker roots
they package in bags of 10 with the same results . They apparently
rot in the ground and never come up .
I guess if I really want strawberries I'm going to have to get a
couple of plants and let 'em spread on their own . I'm wondering if
the cold and wet weather we've had is the reason ... both of my
'maters have frost damage , though both seem to be recovering and
putting out new gowth . And the green onions planted the same day
are doing great .

Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after
the last frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

D

We've been told numerous time by numerous locals that the last frost
is *never* later than April 15th ... yet it froze/frosted here at
least 3 nights in the last 3 weeks - as the blackened leaves on my
tomatoes can attest and the wife covered them on the
coldest-predicted nights . I noticed today that one guy on the
highway out to our place always has a very nice garden has nothing
green showing yet . It has been unusually cold this spring , been
commented on a lot on rec.birds .

The times they are a changing....

D

It's that damned Global Warming that's causing all this cold weather I
tell ya !!

Ithink it's easier to think of it as being 'climate change'. Here in the
southern hemisphere where I live, we are having unseasonal y warm weather.
By now we've usually had lots of killer frosts and the fires have been lit
and would be a regular feature of life for the next 4 months. So far it's
almost balmy.

"Farm1" wrote in message
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"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Terry Coombs wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Terry Coombs wrote:
someday I'll actually get strawberries to grow . This is the 2nd
time I've tried , and I'll admit that WM isn't the best source .
Twice now I've purchased and planted berry starts the sucker roots
they package in bags of 10 with the same results . They apparently
rot in the ground and never come up .
I guess if I really want strawberries I'm going to have to get a
couple of plants and let 'em spread on their own . I'm wondering if
the cold and wet weather we've had is the reason ... both of my
'maters have frost damage , though both seem to be recovering and
putting out new gowth . And the green onions planted the same day
are doing great .

Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after
the last frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

D

We've been told numerous time by numerous locals that the last frost
is *never* later than April 15th ... yet it froze/frosted here at
least 3 nights in the last 3 weeks - as the blackened leaves on my
tomatoes can attest and the wife covered them on the
coldest-predicted nights . I noticed today that one guy on the
highway out to our place always has a very nice garden has nothing
green showing yet . It has been unusually cold this spring , been
commented on a lot on rec.birds .

The times they are a changing....

D

It's that damned Global Warming that's causing all this cold weather I
tell ya !!

Ithink it's easier to think of it as being 'climate change'. Here in the
southern hemisphere where I live, we are having unseasonal y warm weather.
By now we've usually had lots of killer frosts and the fires have been lit
and would be a regular feature of life for the next 4 months. So far it's
almost balmy.


That comment was meant to be funny/sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek ... I
admit/agree that the climate is changing , I'm just not sure we humans can
take full responsibility for it .
--
Snag

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"Terry Coombs" wrote:

"Farm1" wrote in message
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"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Terry Coombs wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Terry Coombs wrote:
someday I'll actually get strawberries to grow . This is the 2nd
time I've tried , and I'll admit that WM isn't the best source .
Twice now I've purchased and planted berry starts the sucker roots
they package in bags of 10 with the same results . They apparently
rot in the ground and never come up .
I guess if I really want strawberries I'm going to have to get a
couple of plants and let 'em spread on their own . I'm wondering if
the cold and wet weather we've had is the reason ... both of my
'maters have frost damage , though both seem to be recovering and
putting out new gowth . And the green onions planted the same day
are doing great .

Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after
the last frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

D

We've been told numerous time by numerous locals that the last frost
is *never* later than April 15th ... yet it froze/frosted here at
least 3 nights in the last 3 weeks - as the blackened leaves on my
tomatoes can attest and the wife covered them on the
coldest-predicted nights . I noticed today that one guy on the
highway out to our place always has a very nice garden has nothing
green showing yet . It has been unusually cold this spring , been
commented on a lot on rec.birds .

The times they are a changing....

D

It's that damned Global Warming that's causing all this cold weather I
tell ya !!

Ithink it's easier to think of it as being 'climate change'. Here in the
southern hemisphere where I live, we are having unseasonal y warm weather.
By now we've usually had lots of killer frosts and the fires have been lit
and would be a regular feature of life for the next 4 months. So far it's
almost balmy.


That comment was meant to be funny/sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek ... I
admit/agree that the climate is changing , I'm just not sure we humans can
take full responsibility for it .

You mean like acid rain, and the ozone hole?

How about the North Pacific Subtropical Gyre which in 1997, a couple of
estimates put at containing 3 million tons of plastic. That is the best
part of the story, it only gets worse. When it comes to fouling a nest,
we could teach rats a thing or two.

--
Remember Rachel Corrie
http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
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"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
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Terry Coombs wrote:
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Terry Coombs wrote:
someday I'll actually get strawberries to grow . This is the 2nd
time I've tried , and I'll admit that WM isn't the best source .
Twice now I've purchased and planted berry starts the sucker roots
they package in bags of 10 with the same results . They apparently
rot in the ground and never come up .
I guess if I really want strawberries I'm going to have to get a
couple of plants and let 'em spread on their own . I'm wondering if
the cold and wet weather we've had is the reason ... both of my
'maters have frost damage , though both seem to be recovering and
putting out new gowth . And the green onions planted the same day
are doing great .

Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after
the last frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

D

We've been told numerous time by numerous locals that the last frost
is *never* later than April 15th ... yet it froze/frosted here at
least 3 nights in the last 3 weeks - as the blackened leaves on my
tomatoes can attest and the wife covered them on the
coldest-predicted nights . I noticed today that one guy on the
highway out to our place always has a very nice garden has nothing
green showing yet . It has been unusually cold this spring , been
commented on a lot on rec.birds .

The times they are a changing....

D

It's that damned Global Warming that's causing all this cold weather I
tell ya !!

Ithink it's easier to think of it as being 'climate change'. Here in the
southern hemisphere where I live, we are having unseasonal y warm
weather. By now we've usually had lots of killer frosts and the fires
have been lit and would be a regular feature of life for the next 4
months. So far it's almost balmy.


That comment was meant to be funny/sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek ... I
admit/agree that the climate is changing , I'm just not sure we humans can
take full responsibility for it .

Well I'm not a scientist. Since I'm not, I have to take heed of the advice
given by those scientists who are interested, involved and engaged in the
areas of climate research. Their advice overwhelmingly says that humans are
responsible.

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after the last
frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

Not my experience, and I'm a good deal further north (43°). Both types I
have have had green on them right through the winter, and are pushing
out new leaves now.

Both were also started from seed.

The bundles of suckers are often pretty sad - still, giving them a bit
more time before ripping them out is wise - 100% loss is not all that
common. They are often very dried out, which can't help.

Spring here is fairly normal, which is much better than last year, where
everything got excited by record heat in March and early April only to
be frozen solid in late April. No tree fruit at all.

And yes, global average higher temperatures can (and likely will) result
in local variations that are colder than normal. The system becomes less
stable. Most of the area suffering a cold spring now was roasting with
record heat all last summer...

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Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away.

Ecnerwal wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after
the last frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

Not my experience, and I'm a good deal further north (43°). Both
types I have have had green on them right through the winter, and are
pushing out new leaves now.


When was your last frost?

D

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Ecnerwal wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Established strawbs don't do much until the ground warms up after
the last frost. I wouldn't try starting new crowns until then.

Not my experience, and I'm a good deal further north (43°). Both
types I have have had green on them right through the winter, and are
pushing out new leaves now.


When was your last frost?

D

We probably haven't had it yet. Average May 15, and average does mean
later is quite possible. Snow on May 19 in memory (broke a lot of trees
since the leaves were out - lilacs were in bloom.) "Safe for basil" is
more like memorial day.

Historically, frost will not bother the strawberry leaves, but may
bother the blossoms out at the time. Blossoms are starting to show up
now. It's probably been a week or two since the "most recent but not
expected to be the last" frost. Monday morning seems like a good bet for
the next one.

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Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away.

"Ecnerwal" wrote in message
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

When was your last frost?

D

We probably haven't had it yet. Average May 15, and average does mean
later is quite possible. Snow on May 19 in memory (broke a lot of trees
since the leaves were out - lilacs were in bloom.) "Safe for basil" is
more like memorial day.

This is an international ng, so what is the date of that?

"Farm1" wrote in message
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"Ecnerwal" wrote in message
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

When was your last frost?

D

We probably haven't had it yet. Average May 15, and average does mean
later is quite possible. Snow on May 19 in memory (broke a lot of trees
since the leaves were out - lilacs were in bloom.) "Safe for basil" is
more like memorial day.

This is an international ng, so what is the date of that?



Memorial Day in the US is usually the last monday in May . This year it's
the 27th .
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Snag