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Picking the garden
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.... But, I did notice I will have some purslane to pick this weekend. :-) ours is just starting to show up. And I dumped two gallons of high test vinegar (20%) on the weeds, so the tide has turned on them! The ones I sprayed look really pathetic. Chuckle. The dandelions will be the last and hardest to kill. I hope I don't have to dig every last on up with my axe! they're breaking up that soil for you. some people eat the greens or make coffee substitute from the roasted roots. can't say i've tried either of them. worms like 'em after i leave them to dry on the surface for a few days/week. Be careful posting this stuff. Folks may show up for dinner! :-) Definition of a small town: when you visit your neighbors, you have to lock your car doors, otherwise you will wind up with a back seat full of zucchini. My neighbors have no fear from me, black thumb and all. I hope to turn the tide this year with my holes as pots, peat moss, and weeds at the bottom of the holes. You know, there is a certain enjoyment stuffing weeds down holes. for sure! some i have to bury deeply enough and put a layer or two of cardboard or craft paper or newspaper over them to keep them from coming back up too easily. i had a whole five gallon bucket of old onions and garlic that needed to be buried the other day. prime worm food... songbird |
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On 06/05/2016 06:11 AM, songbird wrote:
The dandelions will be the last and hardest to kill. I hope I don't have to dig every last on up with my axe! they're breaking up that soil for you. Ha! I wanted to dig a hole and had a dandelion dead in the middle of the target. So, I axes an eight inch square around it about two inches deep. When I pulled up the piece, the the root threaded though it like a needle. So, I repeated about five more times at about an inch deep at a time (that is all I could beat through). Each time it just threaded through the hole. I finally got the root out. The root didn't do a thing to the soil around it. The whole experience was a bit amusing. Oh yes, I found that swinging an axe actually helps my blood sugar. (I am one of the 20% that exercise backfires on T2 Diabetics.) So, the weeds now tremble in fear from me. By the way, an axe is not a real effective way to remove weeds, but it SURE is cathartic. |
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In article , T wrote:
By the way, an axe is not a real effective way to remove weeds, but it SURE is cathartic. Get you a mattock. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away. |
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On 06/08/2016 02:56 PM, Ecnerwal wrote:
In article , T wrote: By the way, an axe is not a real effective way to remove weeds, but it SURE is cathartic. Get you a mattock. Sort of like a pick axe. Hmmm. THahnk you! -T "Cats ... vices to live by" ???? You do realize that Tofu -- colorless, flavorless, gelatinous goo, that rots in your stomach and gives you gas -- is God's punishment for humans domesticating cats ????? :') |
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 12:08:28 -0700, T wrote:
On 06/08/2016 02:56 PM, Ecnerwal wrote: In article , T wrote: By the way, an axe is not a real effective way to remove weeds, but it SURE is cathartic. Get you a mattock. Sort of like a pick axe. Hmmm. THahnk you! -T Great tool. I swear by it. |
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T wrote:
.... I finally got the root out. The root didn't do a thing to the soil around it. The whole experience was a bit amusing. how did that hole get there? dandelion might have drilled it for you, but once that root is down there then worms will follow the root and perhaps another plant will get in there. those tap roots are what i was talking about. Oh yes, I found that swinging an axe actually helps my blood sugar. (I am one of the 20% that exercise backfires on T2 Diabetics.) So, the weeds now tremble in fear from me. By the way, an axe is not a real effective way to remove weeds, but it SURE is cathartic. i did a few hundred deep knee bends today picking strawberries. i'm sure i will be feeling it tomorrow... songbird |
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On 06/08/2016 05:54 PM, songbird wrote:
those tap roots are what i was talking about. I was hoping purslane would accomplish the same thing. parts of my yard are not glowing red, so maybe a bumper crop? |
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On 06/08/2016 05:54 PM, songbird wrote: those tap roots are what i was talking about. I was hoping purslane would accomplish the same thing. parts of my yard are not glowing red, so maybe a bumper crop? hope so, any ground cover is better than bare dirt if you're not using the space, but if you can get something else going there instead (buckwheat or winter rye are both excellent) it's much better. also looks like we have a good crop starting up of purselane this season. songbird |
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On 06/09/2016 05:35 PM, songbird wrote:
T wrote: On 06/08/2016 05:54 PM, songbird wrote: those tap roots are what i was talking about. I was hoping purslane would accomplish the same thing. parts of my yard are not glowing red, so maybe a bumper crop? hope so, any ground cover is better than bare dirt if you're not using the space, but if you can get something else going there instead (buckwheat or winter rye are both excellent) it's much better. also looks like we have a good crop starting up of purselane this season. songbird Thank you! My wife is scared to death of buckwheat as thee is a severe allergy in her family to it (but not her yet). Is Winter Rye the same stuff that gives you diabetes, such as what is used in Rye Bread, etc.? Is so, I'd rather plant something I can eat. My purslane is already giving me seeds, so maybe ... |
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.... My wife is scared to death of buckwheat as thee is a severe allergy in her family to it (but not her yet). interesting! i've never heard of an allergy to it before. they are no fun for sure as i have reactions to some plants too ones that i actually like (lilacs, lavender, yarrow). Is Winter Rye the same stuff that gives you diabetes, such as what is used in Rye Bread, etc.? Is so, I'd rather plant something I can eat. My purslane is already giving me seeds, so maybe ... it doesn't bother me. no, the point was, when you have extra space that you don't have planted with veggies is to fill it with a benificial ground cover plant, to help suppress weeds and create topsoil/humus. weeds are opportunists, fill the niche with a more useful plant and you get topsoil faster. winter rye is one of the most common used plants to break up hard soil. it sends out huge amounts of roots. i've done it here in this clay in the fall, turned it under in the spring and the soil was great that season. you don't have to let it get to seed/head stage, just chop it back and turn it under before the soil dries out. songbird |
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On 06/08/2016 05:54 PM, songbird wrote:
T wrote: ... I finally got the root out. The root didn't do a thing to the soil around it. The whole experience was a bit amusing. how did that hole get there? dandelion might have drilled it for you, but once that root is down there then worms will follow the root and perhaps another plant will get in there. those tap roots are what i was talking about. That is one tight fit. And once the worms get down there (root has to die first), what will the eat? Decomposed sandstone? Rocks? Oh yes, I found that swinging an axe actually helps my blood sugar. (I am one of the 20% that exercise backfires on T2 Diabetics.) So, the weeds now tremble in fear from me. By the way, an axe is not a real effective way to remove weeds, but it SURE is cathartic. i did a few hundred deep knee bends today picking strawberries. i'm sure i will be feeling it tomorrow... Plantain herb will help fix that. songbird Oh, in case I forget, death to weeds! -T |
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T wrote:
On 06/08/2016 05:54 PM, songbird wrote: T wrote: ... I finally got the root out. The root didn't do a thing to the soil around it. The whole experience was a bit amusing. how did that hole get there? dandelion might have drilled it for you, but once that root is down there then worms will follow the root and perhaps another plant will get in there. those tap roots are what i was talking about. That is one tight fit. And once the worms get down there (root has to die first), what will the eat? Decomposed sandstone? Rocks? depends upon the worm, but some will feed off what the roots give off and any other bits of stuff in there. when you cut back some plants (simulate grazing ) they will balance the roots out with the foliage so that means some roots will die back, which yes, become worm food eventually. it's a pretty good way to build up topsoil and you can see how well it works by examining the history of the Great Plains and see how fertile those prairies were (and how deeply too). Oh yes, I found that swinging an axe actually helps my blood sugar. (I am one of the 20% that exercise backfires on T2 Diabetics.) So, the weeds now tremble in fear from me. By the way, an axe is not a real effective way to remove weeds, but it SURE is cathartic. i did a few hundred deep knee bends today picking strawberries. i'm sure i will be feeling it tomorrow... Plantain herb will help fix that. plantains seem to be loved by bunnies, grasshoppers and worms. when i weed them out i just turn them over and leave the roots up in the air to dry out. if they have been let go to seed or have seed stalks on them i pull those off and put those on the weed piles. the birds pick at them... Oh, in case I forget, death to weeds! if the spot ain't got nothing better i'll leave the weed alone as long as i can. i'm too far behind now to plant or transplant in most spaces, but as i do get time i replace weeds by ground covers i do like. we have some thymes that do well here and cover up a lot of area and don't need a lot of weeding. and i've also got some creeping phlox, creeping jenny and i will also toss out old seeds from melons and squash and see if any of them will get going in the wilder areas. if they smother some stuff in the process of growing that's all good... the weeds i have to keep after are the thistles (sow thistle and the purple globe thistle) and some others that are really a pest because they were brought in with a wildflower seed mix and the one i don't like happens to be the one that survived and spread all over the place and is almost impossible to get rid of... the one i'm reactive to... love in a mist and poppies we have both thrive and grow in the crushed limestone. they don't seem to need much dirt at all. spread like crazy too. but we like them as they wander around and when they are done flowering all those stems are free organic material i bury. the love in a mist pods are often used for decorative things by flower arrangers. ok, ramble time over. peace, even to weeds... songbird |
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On 06/09/2016 05:49 PM, songbird wrote:
T wrote: On 06/08/2016 05:54 PM, songbird wrote: T wrote: ... I finally got the root out. The root didn't do a thing to the soil around it. The whole experience was a bit amusing. how did that hole get there? dandelion might have drilled it for you, but once that root is down there then worms will follow the root and perhaps another plant will get in there. those tap roots are what i was talking about. That is one tight fit. And once the worms get down there (root has to die first), what will the eat? Decomposed sandstone? Rocks? depends upon the worm, but some will feed off what the roots give off and any other bits of stuff in there. when you cut back some plants (simulate grazing ) they will balance the roots out with the foliage so that means some roots will die back, which yes, become worm food eventually. it's a pretty good way to build up topsoil and you can see how well it works by examining the history of the Great Plains and see how fertile those prairies were (and how deeply too). Oh yes, I found that swinging an axe actually helps my blood sugar. (I am one of the 20% that exercise backfires on T2 Diabetics.) So, the weeds now tremble in fear from me. By the way, an axe is not a real effective way to remove weeds, but it SURE is cathartic. i did a few hundred deep knee bends today picking strawberries. i'm sure i will be feeling it tomorrow... Plantain herb will help fix that. plantains seem to be loved by bunnies, grasshoppers and worms. when i weed them out i just turn them over and leave the roots up in the air to dry out. if they have been let go to seed or have seed stalks on them i pull those off and put those on the weed piles. the birds pick at them... Oh, in case I forget, death to weeds! if the spot ain't got nothing better i'll leave the weed alone as long as i can. i'm too far behind now to plant or transplant in most spaces, but as i do get time i replace weeds by ground covers i do like. we have some thymes that do well here and cover up a lot of area and don't need a lot of weeding. and i've also got some creeping phlox, creeping jenny and i will also toss out old seeds from melons and squash and see if any of them will get going in the wilder areas. if they smother some stuff in the process of growing that's all good... the weeds i have to keep after are the thistles (sow thistle and the purple globe thistle) and some others that are really a pest because they were brought in with a wildflower seed mix and the one i don't like happens to be the one that survived and spread all over the place and is almost impossible to get rid of... the one i'm reactive to... love in a mist and poppies we have both thrive and grow in the crushed limestone. they don't seem to need much dirt at all. spread like crazy too. but we like them as they wander around and when they are done flowering all those stems are free organic material i bury. the love in a mist pods are often used for decorative things by flower arrangers. ok, ramble time over. peace, even to weeds... songbird You cut the top of a dandelion (the only one I will not chop at with my axe) and they will grow back and back and back. Them I pickle. Death to weeds, except purslane, which is yummy! |
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T wrote:
.... You cut the top of a dandelion (the only one I will not chop at with my axe) and they will grow back and back and back. Them I pickle. Death to weeds, except purslane, which is yummy! keep finding other plants to try instead, from bulk seed, radish, daikon radish, the leaves/sprouts are good at first too. songbird |
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