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LtWolfe wrote in
: I am well aware of the exotic problems in my current state of residence. Apparently not. Walking catfish alone have decimated your natural ecology, and from some of the studies I have seen nearly 40% of Florida's fauna is introduced species. Why do you seem so quick to take away MY right? What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. Because of what someone ELSE did? Why should I be punished for the acts of others? Does that seem right? Hi there, welcome to the real world. Does it seem "right" to you that a natural ecology should be entirely usurped because you want to keep plant/animal X? Are your rights more important than entire sections of the ecosystem your region depends on? Besides, there are very few exotics doing well, compared to the number in the hobby, and natives in FL. You are very obviously not aware of the problem with exotics in your state if you think this is the case. http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/waterman/apm/apm.htm , to start with. http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Galler.../WalkingCatfis h.html is another. Bottom line, I am responsible for MY actions. YOU are responsible for YOUR actions. Let's keep it like that okay? (or rather, get it back like that). Yes, let's. So be responsible, and follow the law, which is backed by the Fish and Game Dept who obviously know much more about the natural ecology of the area. You may not think you are releasing these animals or plants in the wild, and yet you may be doing so inadvertently. You may be flushing invertebrate or fish eggs with your water changes. You may also be releasing spores from spore-breeding plants (example: duckweed). The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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LtWolfe wrote in
: I am well aware of the exotic problems in my current state of residence. Apparently not. Walking catfish alone have decimated your natural ecology, and from some of the studies I have seen nearly 40% of Florida's fauna is introduced species. Why do you seem so quick to take away MY right? What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. Because of what someone ELSE did? Why should I be punished for the acts of others? Does that seem right? Hi there, welcome to the real world. Does it seem "right" to you that a natural ecology should be entirely usurped because you want to keep plant/animal X? Are your rights more important than entire sections of the ecosystem your region depends on? Besides, there are very few exotics doing well, compared to the number in the hobby, and natives in FL. You are very obviously not aware of the problem with exotics in your state if you think this is the case. http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/waterman/apm/apm.htm , to start with. http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Galler.../WalkingCatfis h.html is another. Bottom line, I am responsible for MY actions. YOU are responsible for YOUR actions. Let's keep it like that okay? (or rather, get it back like that). Yes, let's. So be responsible, and follow the law, which is backed by the Fish and Game Dept who obviously know much more about the natural ecology of the area. You may not think you are releasing these animals or plants in the wild, and yet you may be doing so inadvertently. You may be flushing invertebrate or fish eggs with your water changes. You may also be releasing spores from spore-breeding plants (example: duckweed). The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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LtWolfe wrote in
: I am well aware of the exotic problems in my current state of residence. Apparently not. Walking catfish alone have decimated your natural ecology, and from some of the studies I have seen nearly 40% of Florida's fauna is introduced species. Why do you seem so quick to take away MY right? What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. Because of what someone ELSE did? Why should I be punished for the acts of others? Does that seem right? Hi there, welcome to the real world. Does it seem "right" to you that a natural ecology should be entirely usurped because you want to keep plant/animal X? Are your rights more important than entire sections of the ecosystem your region depends on? Besides, there are very few exotics doing well, compared to the number in the hobby, and natives in FL. You are very obviously not aware of the problem with exotics in your state if you think this is the case. http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/waterman/apm/apm.htm , to start with. http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Galler.../WalkingCatfis h.html is another. Bottom line, I am responsible for MY actions. YOU are responsible for YOUR actions. Let's keep it like that okay? (or rather, get it back like that). Yes, let's. So be responsible, and follow the law, which is backed by the Fish and Game Dept who obviously know much more about the natural ecology of the area. You may not think you are releasing these animals or plants in the wild, and yet you may be doing so inadvertently. You may be flushing invertebrate or fish eggs with your water changes. You may also be releasing spores from spore-breeding plants (example: duckweed). The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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LtWolfe wrote in
: I am well aware of the exotic problems in my current state of residence. Apparently not. Walking catfish alone have decimated your natural ecology, and from some of the studies I have seen nearly 40% of Florida's fauna is introduced species. Why do you seem so quick to take away MY right? What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. Because of what someone ELSE did? Why should I be punished for the acts of others? Does that seem right? Hi there, welcome to the real world. Does it seem "right" to you that a natural ecology should be entirely usurped because you want to keep plant/animal X? Are your rights more important than entire sections of the ecosystem your region depends on? Besides, there are very few exotics doing well, compared to the number in the hobby, and natives in FL. You are very obviously not aware of the problem with exotics in your state if you think this is the case. http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/waterman/apm/apm.htm , to start with. http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Galler.../WalkingCatfis h.html is another. Bottom line, I am responsible for MY actions. YOU are responsible for YOUR actions. Let's keep it like that okay? (or rather, get it back like that). Yes, let's. So be responsible, and follow the law, which is backed by the Fish and Game Dept who obviously know much more about the natural ecology of the area. You may not think you are releasing these animals or plants in the wild, and yet you may be doing so inadvertently. You may be flushing invertebrate or fish eggs with your water changes. You may also be releasing spores from spore-breeding plants (example: duckweed). The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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LtWolfe wrote in
: I am well aware of the exotic problems in my current state of residence. Apparently not. Walking catfish alone have decimated your natural ecology, and from some of the studies I have seen nearly 40% of Florida's fauna is introduced species. Why do you seem so quick to take away MY right? What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. Because of what someone ELSE did? Why should I be punished for the acts of others? Does that seem right? Hi there, welcome to the real world. Does it seem "right" to you that a natural ecology should be entirely usurped because you want to keep plant/animal X? Are your rights more important than entire sections of the ecosystem your region depends on? Besides, there are very few exotics doing well, compared to the number in the hobby, and natives in FL. You are very obviously not aware of the problem with exotics in your state if you think this is the case. http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/waterman/apm/apm.htm , to start with. http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Galler.../WalkingCatfis h.html is another. Bottom line, I am responsible for MY actions. YOU are responsible for YOUR actions. Let's keep it like that okay? (or rather, get it back like that). Yes, let's. So be responsible, and follow the law, which is backed by the Fish and Game Dept who obviously know much more about the natural ecology of the area. You may not think you are releasing these animals or plants in the wild, and yet you may be doing so inadvertently. You may be flushing invertebrate or fish eggs with your water changes. You may also be releasing spores from spore-breeding plants (example: duckweed). The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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LtWolfe wrote in
: I am well aware of the exotic problems in my current state of residence. Apparently not. Walking catfish alone have decimated your natural ecology, and from some of the studies I have seen nearly 40% of Florida's fauna is introduced species. Why do you seem so quick to take away MY right? What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. Because of what someone ELSE did? Why should I be punished for the acts of others? Does that seem right? Hi there, welcome to the real world. Does it seem "right" to you that a natural ecology should be entirely usurped because you want to keep plant/animal X? Are your rights more important than entire sections of the ecosystem your region depends on? Besides, there are very few exotics doing well, compared to the number in the hobby, and natives in FL. You are very obviously not aware of the problem with exotics in your state if you think this is the case. http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/waterman/apm/apm.htm , to start with. http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Galler.../WalkingCatfis h.html is another. Bottom line, I am responsible for MY actions. YOU are responsible for YOUR actions. Let's keep it like that okay? (or rather, get it back like that). Yes, let's. So be responsible, and follow the law, which is backed by the Fish and Game Dept who obviously know much more about the natural ecology of the area. You may not think you are releasing these animals or plants in the wild, and yet you may be doing so inadvertently. You may be flushing invertebrate or fish eggs with your water changes. You may also be releasing spores from spore-breeding plants (example: duckweed). The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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LtWolfe wrote in
: I am well aware of the exotic problems in my current state of residence. Apparently not. Walking catfish alone have decimated your natural ecology, and from some of the studies I have seen nearly 40% of Florida's fauna is introduced species. Why do you seem so quick to take away MY right? What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. Because of what someone ELSE did? Why should I be punished for the acts of others? Does that seem right? Hi there, welcome to the real world. Does it seem "right" to you that a natural ecology should be entirely usurped because you want to keep plant/animal X? Are your rights more important than entire sections of the ecosystem your region depends on? Besides, there are very few exotics doing well, compared to the number in the hobby, and natives in FL. You are very obviously not aware of the problem with exotics in your state if you think this is the case. http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/waterman/apm/apm.htm , to start with. http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Galler.../WalkingCatfis h.html is another. Bottom line, I am responsible for MY actions. YOU are responsible for YOUR actions. Let's keep it like that okay? (or rather, get it back like that). Yes, let's. So be responsible, and follow the law, which is backed by the Fish and Game Dept who obviously know much more about the natural ecology of the area. You may not think you are releasing these animals or plants in the wild, and yet you may be doing so inadvertently. You may be flushing invertebrate or fish eggs with your water changes. You may also be releasing spores from spore-breeding plants (example: duckweed). The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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"Empty" wrote in message
... LtWolfe wrote in : Why do you seem so quick to take away MY right? What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. That's because rights exist whether or not they're found in some Big List of Rights. The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. LtWolfe does indeed have the right to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant, even though there may be some reason that he should not exercise that right. It appears that PETA has found yet another unwitting stooge. |
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Thank you Letrol. You took the words right out of my mouth.
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Thank you Letrol. You took the words right out of my mouth.
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LtWolfe wrote in message
. .. Thank you Letrol. You took the words right out of my mouth. I, personally, have no problem with the concept of personal responsibility. We should all accept and be expected to accept responsibility for the consequences of our own decisions, actions, and failures to act. If you dick-up an entire ecosystem, a $500 suspended fine from a district court is NOT going to satisfy me. |
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LtWolfe wrote in message
. .. Thank you Letrol. You took the words right out of my mouth. I, personally, have no problem with the concept of personal responsibility. We should all accept and be expected to accept responsibility for the consequences of our own decisions, actions, and failures to act. If you dick-up an entire ecosystem, a $500 suspended fine from a district court is NOT going to satisfy me. |
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"Le Trôle" wrote in
: What right? I may have missed the Right to Keep Exotic Pets in the Constitution. That's because rights exist whether or not they're found in some Big List of Rights. Yes, the right to keep exotic pets is a basic human right. In fact, I think there was something about that in the Geneva Convention. Someone alert the UN- Florida Fish and Game is oppressing LtWolfe! The bottom line is that you have no "right" to make decisions regarding the Florida ecosystem, nor do you have any "right" to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant. LtWolfe does indeed have the right to own any kind of aquarium fish or plant, even though there may be some reason that he should not exercise that right. I suppose, then, that I have the right to dump 100 gallons of used motor oil in the drainage tunnel outside my house? Your rights end when someone else's begin, and the well-being of the ecosystem that WE ALL depend on to LIVE outweighs your theoritical right to keep something you find interesting. It appears that PETA has found yet another unwitting stooge. What is this babble? I don't much like PETA, and this has NOTHING to do with PETA. Call me the EPA's stooge if you have to fit me somewhere into your tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories. I am, however, an aquarist with some knowledge of the delicate balance of ecosystems and morals enough to know there are things more important than my whims or desires. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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"Dunter Powries" wrote in
: I, personally, have no problem with the concept of personal responsibility. We should all accept and be expected to accept responsibility for the consequences of our own decisions, actions, and failures to act. Agreed! If you dick-up an entire ecosystem, a $500 suspended fine from a district court is NOT going to satisfy me. Doubly agreed! I actually think that a crime of that nature warrants jail time. ~Empty -- 'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.' Spike |
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LtWolfe wrote:
Thank you Letrol. You took the words right out of my mouth. I'm not sure I'd be so quick to jump on le troll's band wagon. -- www.ericschreiber.com |
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