come about end of june or july, or whenever my present home has been sold,
my family and i will be hop(ping), skip(ping), and jump(ing) our way to
west-central oregon...about 25 minutes east of klamath falls, to be exact.

i AM aware the climate is akin to high desert; but i'm not sure about
anything else, even though i've written extensive letters to OSU (oregon
state u)...and i was wondering if anyone here can help me??

i'm looking for info about what the usda zone is? (i'm thinking zone 6? the
winter temperature is not supposed to drop below 5 degrees F). also, the
soil is sandy with a high content of lava rock---and i'm wondering if the
soil could be anything like the lava-type soil in hawaii---rich and good
growing medium??? i'm pretty sure the pH will be pretty close to equal
between alkaline and acidic, but there, too, i'm not having any GOOD idea,
at all.

so, please...if there's anyone here who lives in or near klamath falls
(bonanza, sprague river the town, not the river, olene, dairy, etc.) could
you give me some ideas what to look forward to?? i would love to, once
again, be able to grow russian olive (Elaeagnus angustifolia) trees; lots
and lots of spearmint & peppermint; i REALLY, REALLY want another Fagus
sylvatica 'tricolour'---and many other goodies i used to grow in usda zone
5,sl,ut.....
so....ANY and ALL help would truly be appreciated.....and if you wish to
respond to me and/or the group, my REAL email addy is below my signature;
and i thank you, in advance, for your efforts.

~~gypsy
--
With Malus toward none, and Cherry-Trees toward all.

Klamath Falls and eastward are designated as Zone 1 in Sunset. Basically
that designation means cold winter temperatures, (as low as -25 or -30)
frozen ground for long periods, and weeks or months with snow on the ground.
The volcanic soil is likely to be very rich - but it will need a lot of
irrigation in that climate. (I'm guessing 10-15 inches of precipitation a
year, most of that coming in the form of winter snows). The high altitude
will insure very cool nights, even in summer, so you will be able to grow
superb poppies, sweet peas, larkspur, delphinium, lavatera and the like.
Warm weather annuals and vegetables will be iffy....Depending on altitude,
your new USDA zone may be as low as 4. However, with global warming, most of
the west is now one zone higher than previously. Yes, russian olives will do
very well. And lombardy poplars will be very healthy there too.
"frogfog" wrote in message
...
come about end of june or july, or whenever my present home has been sold,
my family and i will be hop(ping), skip(ping), and jump(ing) our way to
west-central oregon...about 25 minutes east of klamath falls, to be exact.

i AM aware the climate is akin to high desert; but i'm not sure about
anything else, even though i've written extensive letters to OSU (oregon
state u)...and i was wondering if anyone here can help me??

i'm looking for info about what the usda zone is? (i'm thinking zone 6?
the
winter temperature is not supposed to drop below 5 degrees F). also, the
soil is sandy with a high content of lava rock---and i'm wondering if the
soil could be anything like the lava-type soil in hawaii---rich and good
growing medium??? i'm pretty sure the pH will be pretty close to equal
between alkaline and acidic, but there, too, i'm not having any GOOD idea,
at all.

so, please...if there's anyone here who lives in or near klamath falls
(bonanza, sprague river the town, not the river, olene, dairy, etc.)
could
you give me some ideas what to look forward to?? i would love to, once
again, be able to grow russian olive (Elaeagnus angustifolia) trees; lots
and lots of spearmint & peppermint; i REALLY, REALLY want another Fagus
sylvatica 'tricolour'---and many other goodies i used to grow in usda zone
5,sl,ut.....
so....ANY and ALL help would truly be appreciated.....and if you wish to
respond to me and/or the group, my REAL email addy is below my signature;
and i thank you, in advance, for your efforts.

~~gypsy
--
With Malus toward none, and Cherry-Trees toward all.

i don't know a whit about the 'sunset' zones based on the fact that is
purely a western ideal; however, i MUST disagree with these ideas you've
laid out in your posting....go to:

http://www.city-data.com/city/Klamath-Falls-Oregon.html

and check out the lower part of the page. i DO believe 4000 weather
stations are more in the know than a magazine based in california!!!
--
With Malus toward none, and Cherry-Trees toward all.


From: "presley"
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:52:49 -0800
Subject: central oregon gardens?

Klamath Falls and eastward are designated as Zone 1 in Sunset. Basically
that designation means cold winter temperatures, (as low as -25 or -30)
frozen ground for long periods, and weeks or months with snow on the ground.
The volcanic soil is likely to be very rich - but it will need a lot of
irrigation in that climate. (I'm guessing 10-15 inches of precipitation a
year, most of that coming in the form of winter snows). The high altitude
will insure very cool nights, even in summer, so you will be able to grow
superb poppies, sweet peas, larkspur, delphinium, lavatera and the like.
Warm weather annuals and vegetables will be iffy....Depending on altitude,
your new USDA zone may be as low as 4. However, with global warming, most of
the west is now one zone higher than previously. Yes, russian olives will do
very well. And lombardy poplars will be very healthy there too.
"frogfog" wrote in message
...
come about end of june or july, or whenever my present home has been sold,
my family and i will be hop(ping), skip(ping), and jump(ing) our way to
west-central oregon...about 25 minutes east of klamath falls, to be exact.

i AM aware the climate is akin to high desert; but i'm not sure about
anything else, even though i've written extensive letters to OSU (oregon
state u)...and i was wondering if anyone here can help me??

i'm looking for info about what the usda zone is? (i'm thinking zone 6?
the
winter temperature is not supposed to drop below 5 degrees F). also, the
soil is sandy with a high content of lava rock---and i'm wondering if the
soil could be anything like the lava-type soil in hawaii---rich and good
growing medium??? i'm pretty sure the pH will be pretty close to equal
between alkaline and acidic, but there, too, i'm not having any GOOD idea,
at all.

so, please...if there's anyone here who lives in or near klamath falls
(bonanza, sprague river the town, not the river, olene, dairy, etc.)
could
you give me some ideas what to look forward to?? i would love to, once
again, be able to grow russian olive (Elaeagnus angustifolia) trees; lots
and lots of spearmint & peppermint; i REALLY, REALLY want another Fagus
sylvatica 'tricolour'---and many other goodies i used to grow in usda zone
5,sl,ut.....
so....ANY and ALL help would truly be appreciated.....and if you wish to
respond to me and/or the group, my REAL email addy is below my signature;
and i thank you, in advance, for your efforts.

~~gypsy
--
With Malus toward none, and Cherry-Trees toward all.

frogfrog, that data doesn't represent 4000 stations in Klamath Falls - it
represents 4000 stations around the entire US to get the averages for the
statistical line for the US.
Here is a more detailed and accurate guide to the weather in Klamath Falls:
http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?orklam

You will notice from this chart that the daily low temperature average
doesn't climb above freezing until April, and is below freezing again in
November. The average annual precipitation is 13.72 inches. So far, I (and
Sunset) are 100% on the money. 38 inches of snowfall annually. I'm not quite
sure what your issues are in regard to what I wrote. The chart below shows
record low temperatures for Klamath Falls - apparently it's gone down
to -25 F a number of times..
http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/w....php3?s=598527
"frogfog" wrote in message
...
i don't know a whit about the 'sunset' zones based on the fact that is
purely a western ideal; however, i MUST disagree with these ideas you've
laid out in your posting....go to:

http://www.city-data.com/city/Klamath-Falls-Oregon.html

and check out the lower part of the page. i DO believe 4000 weather
stations are more in the know than a magazine based in california!!!
--
With Malus toward none, and Cherry-Trees toward all.


From: "presley"
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:52:49 -0800
Subject: central oregon gardens?

Klamath Falls and eastward are designated as Zone 1 in Sunset. Basically
that designation means cold winter temperatures, (as low as -25 or -30)
frozen ground for long periods, and weeks or months with snow on the
ground.
The volcanic soil is likely to be very rich - but it will need a lot of
irrigation in that climate. (I'm guessing 10-15 inches of precipitation a
year, most of that coming in the form of winter snows). The high altitude
will insure very cool nights, even in summer, so you will be able to grow
superb poppies, sweet peas, larkspur, delphinium, lavatera and the like.
Warm weather annuals and vegetables will be iffy....Depending on
altitude,
your new USDA zone may be as low as 4. However, with global warming, most
of
the west is now one zone higher than previously. Yes, russian olives will
do
very well. And lombardy poplars will be very healthy there too.
"frogfog" wrote in message
...
come about end of june or july, or whenever my present home has been
sold,
my family and i will be hop(ping), skip(ping), and jump(ing) our way to
west-central oregon...about 25 minutes east of klamath falls, to be
exact.

i AM aware the climate is akin to high desert; but i'm not sure about
anything else, even though i've written extensive letters to OSU (oregon
state u)...and i was wondering if anyone here can help me??

i'm looking for info about what the usda zone is? (i'm thinking zone 6?
the
winter temperature is not supposed to drop below 5 degrees F). also,
the
soil is sandy with a high content of lava rock---and i'm wondering if
the
soil could be anything like the lava-type soil in hawaii---rich and good
growing medium??? i'm pretty sure the pH will be pretty close to equal
between alkaline and acidic, but there, too, i'm not having any GOOD
idea,
at all.

so, please...if there's anyone here who lives in or near klamath falls
(bonanza, sprague river the town, not the river, olene, dairy, etc.)
could
you give me some ideas what to look forward to?? i would love to, once
again, be able to grow russian olive (Elaeagnus angustifolia) trees;
lots
and lots of spearmint & peppermint; i REALLY, REALLY want another Fagus
sylvatica 'tricolour'---and many other goodies i used to grow in usda
zone
5,sl,ut.....
so....ANY and ALL help would truly be appreciated.....and if you wish to
respond to me and/or the group, my REAL email addy is below my
signature;
and i thank you, in advance, for your efforts.

~~gypsy
--
With Malus toward none, and Cherry-Trees toward all.

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:12:51 -0500, frogfog
wrote:

i don't know a whit about the 'sunset' zones based on the fact that is
purely a western ideal; however, i MUST disagree with these ideas you've
laid out in your posting....go to:

http://www.city-data.com/city/Klamath-Falls-Oregon.html

and check out the lower part of the page. i DO believe 4000 weather
stations are more in the know than a magazine based in california!!!


The zones come from a book "Sunset Western Gardens" which everyone
should have. See if you can't find it at a library or book store,
check it out. It's good. The magazine used to be good at one time.