I have leafminers on my boxwood hedge. Someone gave me Neem concentrate to spray on the boxwood. Does anyone know if Neem will effectively kill the leafminers?

they are in, not on the leaf. I dont think so. how about a systemic? I used it to
get rid of leaf miners on a birch. worked great. Ingrid

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Neem may work, however check this out:
"http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3977351.stm"

*grin* It's possible that the high sugar content attracts ants on to
leaves when it's sprayed..

Also check out http://www.leafmines.co.uk/

What kind of systemic product did you use? Someone mentioned using
malathion, but we have dogs and an outdoor cat, so I was concerned about the
stuff getting in their eyes. Isn't Malathion highly poisonous? Right now the
leaves are blistering, and I suppose the eggs are beginning to hatch. I am
in zone 7, Virginia. I have done a little research on boxwood leafminers,
and know what they are and how they work, but just don't have any experience
with using systemics.

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they are in, not on the leaf. I dont think so. how about a systemic? I
used it to
get rid of leaf miners on a birch. worked great. Ingrid

"cb" wrote:

I have leafminers on my boxwood hedge. Someone gave me Neem concentrate to
spray on the boxwood. Does anyone know if Neem will effectively kill the
leafminers?



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What kind of systemic product did you use? Someone mentioned using
malathion, but we have dogs and an outdoor cat, so I was concerned about
the stuff getting in their eyes. Isn't Malathion highly poisonous? Right
now the leaves are blistering, and I suppose the eggs are beginning to
hatch. I am in zone 7, Virginia. I have done a little research on boxwood
leafminers, and know what they are and how they work, but just don't have
any experience with using systemics.

Malathion's great stuff:
http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...ce_id=121-75-5

Thanks for all the suggestions. I finally got some "Merit" by Bayer.
Hopefully that will solve my boxwood leafminer troubles.

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"cb" wrote in message
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What kind of systemic product did you use? Someone mentioned using
malathion, but we have dogs and an outdoor cat, so I was concerned about
the stuff getting in their eyes. Isn't Malathion highly poisonous? Right
now the leaves are blistering, and I suppose the eggs are beginning to
hatch. I am in zone 7, Virginia. I have done a little research on boxwood
leafminers, and know what they are and how they work, but just don't have
any experience with using systemics.

Malathion's great stuff:
http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...ce_id=121-75-5

Another great chemical. Be careful:
http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...=1689%2d84%2d5


"cb" wrote in message
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I finally got some "Merit" by Bayer.
Hopefully that will solve my boxwood leafminer troubles.

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"cb" wrote in message
...

What kind of systemic product did you use? Someone mentioned using
malathion, but we have dogs and an outdoor cat, so I was concerned about
the stuff getting in their eyes. Isn't Malathion highly poisonous? Right
now the leaves are blistering, and I suppose the eggs are beginning to
hatch. I am in zone 7, Virginia. I have done a little research on
boxwood leafminers, and know what they are and how they work, but just
don't have any experience with using systemics.

Malathion's great stuff:
http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...ce_id=121-75-5

It has been so long since I used it I dont remember which systemic. big tall round
cylinder of a can.
malathion is poisonous to everything without a functioning liver. otherwise, it is
pretty useful when used correctly to treat existing infestation. it biodegrades
pretty fast too. Ingrid

"cb" wrote:

What kind of systemic product did you use? Someone mentioned using
malathion, but we have dogs and an outdoor cat, so I was concerned about the
stuff getting in their eyes. Isn't Malathion highly poisonous? Right now the
leaves are blistering, and I suppose the eggs are beginning to hatch. I am
in zone 7, Virginia. I have done a little research on boxwood leafminers,
and know what they are and how they work, but just don't have any experience
with using systemics.


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they are in, not on the leaf. I dont think so. how about a systemic? I used it to
get rid of leaf miners on a birch. worked great. Ingrid

"cb" wrote:

I have leafminers on my boxwood hedge. Someone gave me Neem concentrate to spray on the boxwood. Does anyone know if Neem will effectively kill the leafminers?

Neem oil works very well on leaf miners - I have used it exclusively
for several years on my spinach and chard. It is also effective with
those rusty fungal splotches that attack beans in warm, humid weather.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathion

I'll quote: "However, malathion breaks down into malaoxon, which is 60
times more toxic than malathion."

"Malathion present in untreated water is converted to malaoxon during
the chlorination phase of water treatment"

Also:

"Malathion was used in the 1980s in California to combat the
Mediterranean Fruit Fly."

"Malathion was sprayed in many cities to combat West Nile virus."

and we all know how reliable wikipedia is. where is the scientific articles showing
this? Ingrid

Vivek.M wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathion

I'll quote: "However, malathion breaks down into malaoxon, which is 60
times more toxic than malathion."


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Vivek.M wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathion

I'll quote: "However, malathion breaks down into malaoxon, which is 60
times more toxic than malathion."


and we all know how reliable wikipedia is. where is the scientific
articles showing
this? Ingrid


The first half of the statement is true. If there are high schools where you
live, and you hurry before they close for summer, you can ask a chemistry
teacher and she/he will explain the chemical conversion to you. Since you're
a very smart person, I assume you will then accept the statement as true.

The second half is probably the one that bothers you, right? If you were to
see three sources of this information which you consider to be absolutely
reliable, who would those sources be? Perhaps I can help you find the
information. It would be this type of thing:

http://www.epa.gov/ged/publica/cabprj4.htm

I think you'll find that interesting, in a way that's sadly predictable.
Come on back real soon and we'll talk about it.

Hello Ingrid, The Wiki - in most cases, quotes sources; If you scroll
down to the bottom of that page you'll find them. I won't debate Wiki
reliability since that may be construed as being off-topic.

My post was meant to show both sides of the coin, and get the original
poster to check the Wiki ( in case he hadn't ); After all I did post
specific instances where it was used ( from the Wiki ). My post wasn't
meant to lessen the value of your own personal experience with
Malathion, however the poster must be warned about the risks involved
in handling chemicals.

In this particular case:
1. Enclosed areas with poor ventilation - like a gardening shed.
2. Reaction between Malathion and Chlorine ( tap water is chlorinated
).
3. Impurities that may cause harm.
4. Malathion getting in-to drinking water.

plonk. Ingrid

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

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Vivek.M wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathion

I'll quote: "However, malathion breaks down into malaoxon, which is 60
times more toxic than malathion."


and we all know how reliable wikipedia is. where is the scientific
articles showing
this? Ingrid


The first half of the statement is true. If there are high schools where you
live, and you hurry before they close for summer, you can ask a chemistry
teacher and she/he will explain the chemical conversion to you. Since you're
a very smart person, I assume you will then accept the statement as true.

The second half is probably the one that bothers you, right? If you were to
see three sources of this information which you consider to be absolutely
reliable, who would those sources be? Perhaps I can help you find the
information. It would be this type of thing:

http://www.epa.gov/ged/publica/cabprj4.htm

I think you'll find that interesting, in a way that's sadly predictable.
Come on back real soon and we'll talk about it.




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Gee, Ingrid, I know it's inconvenient to have to actually THINK about the
chemicals you use, but that's reality.


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plonk. Ingrid

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

wrote in message
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Vivek.M wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathion

I'll quote: "However, malathion breaks down into malaoxon, which is 60
times more toxic than malathion."


and we all know how reliable wikipedia is. where is the scientific
articles showing
this? Ingrid


The first half of the statement is true. If there are high schools where
you
live, and you hurry before they close for summer, you can ask a chemistry
teacher and she/he will explain the chemical conversion to you. Since
you're
a very smart person, I assume you will then accept the statement as true.

The second half is probably the one that bothers you, right? If you were
to
see three sources of this information which you consider to be absolutely
reliable, who would those sources be? Perhaps I can help you find the
information. It would be this type of thing:

http://www.epa.gov/ged/publica/cabprj4.htm

I think you'll find that interesting, in a way that's sadly predictable.
Come on back real soon and we'll talk about it.




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