"zhanataya" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 00:30:46 -0700, "gregpresley"
wrote:

The only Republican economic principles of which I'm aware involve upping
military spending by huge percentages while simultaneously lowering
taxes.
If they can manufacture a supposed threat to the US during their terms,
they
are quick to seize upon it as an excuse to increase military spending by
that much more. When the resultant ballooning deficits hit home, the next
Republican mantra is "cut discretionary spending". Which means, welfare,
medicaid, the National Instititutes of Health and Science, the Center for
Disease Control, the Environmental Protection Agency, PBS, the National
Endowment for the Arts, and of course the agencies that inspect meat and
agricultural goods. And if it can be done in the dead of night, they also
cut Medicare payments and look for ways to make social security less
solvent.
The last time the General Accounting Office did an audit of
the
military, they discovered that 40% of the military budget could not be
accounted for - no receipts, no nothin'. That's in the neighborhood of
$150
billion dollars a year unaccounted for. Trimming THAT cash cow would go a
long way toward restoring solvency to our Federal Government, but it
ain't
never gonna happen during a Republican administration, with all that that
party "owes" to the military industrial establishment which pays huge
sums
every four years to buy the candidates that protect it.
Yeah, Republican economic principles - that IS a laugh..........

Greg I got it figured out. You write plant descriptions for gardening
catalogs, don't you? ;-)

zhan

Actually, Zhan, I think Greg made some excellent points. The problem with
huge military build up and spending is that somebody decides that it must be
used to keep the cash cow (and popularity) flowing. I couldn't have
described the Republican Party's priorities better myself. ;-)

John

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 00:29:26 -0500, "B & J"
wrote:

"zhanataya" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 00:30:46 -0700, "gregpresley"
wrote:

The only Republican economic principles of which I'm aware involve upping
military spending by huge percentages while simultaneously lowering
taxes.
If they can manufacture a supposed threat to the US during their terms,
they
are quick to seize upon it as an excuse to increase military spending by
that much more. When the resultant ballooning deficits hit home, the next
Republican mantra is "cut discretionary spending". Which means, welfare,
medicaid, the National Instititutes of Health and Science, the Center for
Disease Control, the Environmental Protection Agency, PBS, the National
Endowment for the Arts, and of course the agencies that inspect meat and
agricultural goods. And if it can be done in the dead of night, they also
cut Medicare payments and look for ways to make social security less
solvent.
The last time the General Accounting Office did an audit of
the
military, they discovered that 40% of the military budget could not be
accounted for - no receipts, no nothin'. That's in the neighborhood of
$150
billion dollars a year unaccounted for. Trimming THAT cash cow would go a
long way toward restoring solvency to our Federal Government, but it
ain't
never gonna happen during a Republican administration, with all that that
party "owes" to the military industrial establishment which pays huge
sums
every four years to buy the candidates that protect it.
Yeah, Republican economic principles - that IS a laugh..........

Greg I got it figured out. You write plant descriptions for gardening
catalogs, don't you? ;-)

zhan

Actually, Zhan, I think Greg made some excellent points. The problem with
huge military build up and spending is that somebody decides that it must be
used to keep the cash cow (and popularity) flowing. I couldn't have
described the Republican Party's priorities better myself. ;-)

John

Uh Huh, but like plant catalog descriptions a few points were missing.

No mention of the unaccounted for billions Clinton threw a Haiti.

I agree the Democratic military policy is memorable. A case in point
is Somalia when Clinton used the military as meals on wheels and
refused to send adequate defensive equipment and we got out asses
stomped by a rag tag bunch.

Greg left out the part where the GAO found billions is WFA in various
social programs.

As for military build up. It must have slipped Greg's mind during the
Clinton years the US Navy had ships that couldn't steam past the
breakwater without sailors cross decking. Wonder what the reason was
for the flood of non-reenlistments.

(A small soapbox ;- )

The reason Operation Iraqi Freedom has gone the way it has is because
of the superior coalition training, equipment and technology. The
opposition had enough munitions to send our young people to hell half
a dozen times over. Sure Bush gave Gen. Franks everything he wanted
and I'm grateful. And I'll bet those that have loved ones over there
are grateful too.

The first major tenet of the government is to protect its citizens.
(Here is one point Rush and I agree on.) So I figure the government
can protect my skin from foreign attack, I'll take care of my health
and well being. If there is any money left over you can have it for
your social (zennie do not say socialist programs - John and Greg
might get pi**ed ;- )

Speaking of social programs and human rights. Why is it the democrats
who pride their selves on concern for their fellow man haven't sounded
a peep about what Saddam has done to his people? Must be a lot of
money to be made on domestic social programs. But never fear the
republicans will ride to the rescue.

(In conclusion and the most important point)

My femininity won't let me forget a social snub. The Democrats have
never invited me to a single Inaugural Ball.

zhan

"zhanataya" wrote in message

The first major tenet of the government is to protect its citizens.
(Here is one point Rush and I agree on.) So I figure the government
can protect my skin from foreign attack, I'll take care of my health
and well being. If there is any money left over you can have it for
your social (zennie do not say socialist programs - John and Greg
might get pi**ed ;- )

Speaking of social programs and human rights. Why is it the democrats
who pride their selves on concern for their fellow man haven't sounded
a peep about what Saddam has done to his people? Must be a lot of
money to be made on domestic social programs. But never fear the
republicans will ride to the rescue.

(In conclusion and the most important point)

My femininity won't let me forget a social snub. The Democrats have
never invited me to a single Inaugural Ball.

zhan

Why should Greg and I get upset? I'm definitely not. We are just poles apart
from you on where we want our tax dollars spent. I like my tax money spent
on schools, libraries, the arts, health, and infrastructure, in other words,
helping people. Conservatives like to see tax money spent on the military,
weapons, and corporations. It's a matter of perspective.

BTW, I received a big tax refund this year because of the horrible economy.
It gave me a good feeling to realize that not much of my money was spent on
Dubya's war. VBG

I like you too much to argue. Should we call it off?

John

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:07:46 -0500, "B & J"
wrote:

"zhanataya" wrote in message

The first major tenet of the government is to protect its citizens.
(Here is one point Rush and I agree on.) So I figure the government
can protect my skin from foreign attack, I'll take care of my health
and well being. If there is any money left over you can have it for
your social (zennie do not say socialist programs - John and Greg
might get pi**ed ;- )

Speaking of social programs and human rights. Why is it the democrats
who pride their selves on concern for their fellow man haven't sounded
a peep about what Saddam has done to his people? Must be a lot of
money to be made on domestic social programs. But never fear the
republicans will ride to the rescue.

(In conclusion and the most important point)

My femininity won't let me forget a social snub. The Democrats have
never invited me to a single Inaugural Ball.

zhan

Why should Greg and I get upset? I'm definitely not. We are just poles apart
from you on where we want our tax dollars spent. I like my tax money spent
on schools, libraries, the arts, health, and infrastructure, in other words,
helping people. Conservatives like to see tax money spent on the military,
weapons, and corporations. It's a matter of perspective.

BTW, I received a big tax refund this year because of the horrible economy.
It gave me a good feeling to realize that not much of my money was spent on
Dubya's war. VBG

I like you too much to argue. Should we call it off?

John


Yeah I think we should before one of us gets serious. But I'm still
bent over the Democrats not inviting me to the ball.

zhan

"zhanataya" wrote in message
Yeah I think we should before one of us gets serious. But I'm still
bent over the Democrats not inviting me to the ball.

zhan

Done and done. I have to admit that there is an occasional Democrat "wer ein
Dummkopf ist!"
;-)

John