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Nature
Nature is not balanced! Balance means no movement. When movement stops,
all biotic systems die. Is this what you really want?
nature is a megasystem of biotic and abiotic parts that move in ways of
dynamic equilibrium as energy comes in.
In a sense, nature "attempts" balance, yet it moves only because one or more
parts are always out of balance. Yet the parts out of balance still appear
as balance over time. Biotic and abiotic forces are in constant conflict,
and they both exist because of each other. When biotic parts do reach
balance, death follows and the parts go back to the abiotic side. As higher
order and energy return, biotic comes from abiotic.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
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"symplastless" wrote:

Nature
Nature is not balanced! Balance means no movement. When movement stops,
all biotic systems die. Is this what you really want?
nature is a megasystem of biotic and abiotic parts that move in ways of
dynamic equilibrium as energy comes in.
In a sense, nature "attempts" balance, yet it moves only because one or more
parts are always out of balance. Yet the parts out of balance still appear
as balance over time. Biotic and abiotic forces are in constant conflict,
and they both exist because of each other. When biotic parts do reach
balance, death follows and the parts go back to the abiotic side. As higher
order and energy return, biotic comes from abiotic.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.



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My, Mr. Arborist, chip on your shoulder? Didn't we wake up testy? The
poor guy is just shlepping his cards around. Not that I like spam (ah
wonderful spam) any more than the next person but you seem to be onto a
rant about something.

Anyway, it's persnickety time.

Numero uno Nature is not balanced!
What about homeostasis? Homeostasis is the property of an open system,
especially living organisms, to regulate its internal environment to
maintain a stable, constant condition, by means of multiple dynamic
equilibrium adjustments, controlled by interrelated regulation
mechanisms. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeostasis) Isn't it cool?
They even worked the phrase "dynamic equilibrium" into their
definition;-)

I mean, if we, virtual condominiums of smaller organisms, constitute an
organism, then why doesn't everything in the biosphere, constitute an
even larger organism with it's own homeostasis? Of course there is the
bone of evolution to chew on, with it's adaptation to changing
circumstances.

Numero two-o "When movement stops, all biotic systems die."

When movement stops you have absolute zero man and not much of anything
is gonna' happen. The good news is that it won't get colder.

Numero three-o As higher order and energy return, biotic comes from
abiotic.

First, thanks for not draging out the whole "second law of
thermodynamics", but wat chew mean "higher order? I'm down with the
without energy, like electromagnetic waves", things become more
disorganized as the energy is passed along to the constituent parts
part. With energy, you can organize things, like organisms, but I don't
get higher order part. You not going evangelical on us is you?

OK, OK, so it's been a slow morning for me. I think I smell the coffee.

Peace out,

- Bill

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