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Four Main Factors Causing High Cholesterol

or some, even maintaining cholesterol at the right levels and being
fit and thin will still not prevent the development of high levels of
bad cholesterol. Due to heart risk factors besides diet, some people
require a very aggressive approach which includes cholesterol lowing
medication.

Lifestyle issues and high cholesterol:

http://tinyurl.com/3b27lx

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Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.

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Four Main Factors Causing High Cholesterol

or some, even maintaining cholesterol at the right levels and being
fit and thin will still not prevent the development of high levels of
bad cholesterol. Due to heart risk factors besides diet, some people
require a very aggressive approach which includes cholesterol lowing
medication.

Lifestyle issues and high cholesterol:

http://tinyurl.com/3b27lx


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On Apr 26, 6:40 am, Jangchub wrote:
Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.

My cholesterol was 202 with favorable ratio when I had unstable angina
and had to have a 90% blocked artery opened with stents. Besides
heart healthy diet which means all of the above, red meat (max. 4 oz.)
is restricted to twice a week, fish twice a week and rest chicken,
turkey or meatless. Low salt, low fat which means avoiding processed
meat like lunch meat and hot dogs. My diet is working and I'm losing
that belly fat which is said to be active in causing artery blockage.
Also on Lipitor.

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On 26 Apr 2007 10:04:25 -0700, Frank wrote:

On Apr 26, 6:40 am, Jangchub wrote:
Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.

My cholesterol was 202 with favorable ratio when I had unstable angina
and had to have a 90% blocked artery opened with stents. Besides
heart healthy diet which means all of the above, red meat (max. 4 oz.)
is restricted to twice a week, fish twice a week and rest chicken,
turkey or meatless. Low salt, low fat which means avoiding processed
meat like lunch meat and hot dogs. My diet is working and I'm losing
that belly fat which is said to be active in causing artery blockage.
Also on Lipitor.


The only thing which has cholesterol comes from an animal. Whether it
be their fat, muscle, whatever. Stop meat you will be off Lipitor
most likely.

There are such good substitutes now. Morningstar has a product which
is like bbq riblets. They are great, even my husband likes them.
Also, tons of varieties of soy burgers. I like Boca Burger Flame
Grilled. I'll never eat any animal again and working toward
eliminating eggs and dairy as well.
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Where do you think the cholesterol in herbivores comes from in the first
place? It sure isn't from their diet. I.e. you can eat no meat or dairy
and still have high cholesterol.


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On 26 Apr 2007 10:04:25 -0700, Frank wrote:

On Apr 26, 6:40 am, Jangchub wrote:
Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.

My cholesterol was 202 with favorable ratio when I had unstable angina
and had to have a 90% blocked artery opened with stents. Besides
heart healthy diet which means all of the above, red meat (max. 4 oz.)
is restricted to twice a week, fish twice a week and rest chicken,
turkey or meatless. Low salt, low fat which means avoiding processed
meat like lunch meat and hot dogs. My diet is working and I'm losing
that belly fat which is said to be active in causing artery blockage.
Also on Lipitor.


The only thing which has cholesterol comes from an animal. Whether it
be their fat, muscle, whatever. Stop meat you will be off Lipitor
most likely.

There are such good substitutes now. Morningstar has a product which
is like bbq riblets. They are great, even my husband likes them.
Also, tons of varieties of soy burgers. I like Boca Burger Flame
Grilled. I'll never eat any animal again and working toward
eliminating eggs and dairy as well.





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On Apr 26, 3:58 pm, "DWW" wrote:
Where do you think the cholesterol in herbivores comes from in the first
place? It sure isn't from their diet. I.e. you can eat no meat or dairy
and still have high cholesterol.

Like you say, the human body manufactures its own cholesterol from
fat.
And, it does not have to be animal fat as vegetable fat works nearly
as well.
It is not enough to be a vegetarian. You have to eat low fat too.

Frank

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There is no cholesterol in anything other than meat of any kind or
dairy of any kind. I laugh my ass off when I see a bag of chips which
says, no cholesterol. Grass has none, corn has none, only the cows
they grind up and feed BACK to the cows have cholesterol...and mad cow
disease.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:58:13 GMT, "DWW" wrote:

Where do you think the cholesterol in herbivores comes from in the first
place? It sure isn't from their diet. I.e. you can eat no meat or dairy
and still have high cholesterol.


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On 26 Apr 2007 10:04:25 -0700, Frank wrote:

On Apr 26, 6:40 am, Jangchub wrote:
Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.

My cholesterol was 202 with favorable ratio when I had unstable angina
and had to have a 90% blocked artery opened with stents. Besides
heart healthy diet which means all of the above, red meat (max. 4 oz.)
is restricted to twice a week, fish twice a week and rest chicken,
turkey or meatless. Low salt, low fat which means avoiding processed
meat like lunch meat and hot dogs. My diet is working and I'm losing
that belly fat which is said to be active in causing artery blockage.
Also on Lipitor.


The only thing which has cholesterol comes from an animal. Whether it
be their fat, muscle, whatever. Stop meat you will be off Lipitor
most likely.

There are such good substitutes now. Morningstar has a product which
is like bbq riblets. They are great, even my husband likes them.
Also, tons of varieties of soy burgers. I like Boca Burger Flame
Grilled. I'll never eat any animal again and working toward
eliminating eggs and dairy as well.



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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:13:36 -0500, Jangchub
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On 26 Apr 2007 10:04:25 -0700, Frank wrote:

On Apr 26, 6:40 am, Jangchub wrote:
Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.

My cholesterol was 202 with favorable ratio when I had unstable angina
and had to have a 90% blocked artery opened with stents. Besides
heart healthy diet which means all of the above, red meat (max. 4 oz.)
is restricted to twice a week, fish twice a week and rest chicken,
turkey or meatless. Low salt, low fat which means avoiding processed
meat like lunch meat and hot dogs. My diet is working and I'm losing
that belly fat which is said to be active in causing artery blockage.
Also on Lipitor.


The only thing which has cholesterol comes from an animal. Whether it
be their fat, muscle, whatever. Stop meat you will be off Lipitor
most likely.


Nope. Vegetarian for 8 years and 2 hours activity daily, slightly
underweight. My cholesterol is 280, but I have a high good
cholesterol score. No drugs.
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On Apr 27, 5:24 pm, Phisherman wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:13:36 -0500, Jangchub
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On 26 Apr 2007 10:04:25 -0700, Frank wrote:


On Apr 26, 6:40 am, Jangchub wrote:
Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.


My cholesterol was 202 with favorable ratio when I had unstable angina
and had to have a 90% blocked artery opened with stents. Besides
heart healthy diet which means all of the above, red meat (max. 4 oz.)
is restricted to twice a week, fish twice a week and rest chicken,
turkey or meatless. Low salt, low fat which means avoiding processed
meat like lunch meat and hot dogs. My diet is working and I'm losing
that belly fat which is said to be active in causing artery blockage.
Also on Lipitor.


The only thing which has cholesterol comes from an animal. Whether it
be their fat, muscle, whatever. Stop meat you will be off Lipitor
most likely.


Nope. Vegetarian for 8 years and 2 hours activity daily, slightly
underweight. My cholesterol is 280, but I have a high good
cholesterol score. No drugs.


thanks for comment... smile always

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:24:06 GMT, Phisherman wrote:


The only thing which has cholesterol comes from an animal. Whether it
be their fat, muscle, whatever. Stop meat you will be off Lipitor
most likely.


Nope. Vegetarian for 8 years and 2 hours activity daily, slightly
underweight. My cholesterol is 280, but I have a high good
cholesterol score. No drugs.


I wasn't talking to you when I said that. I was talking to someone
who is taking Lipitor. What the alarmist doctors don't tell everyone
is that there are many people who have normally higher levels of
cholesterol and nothing is wrong with them. So, they slap out a pill,
give NO nutritional recommendation and the rich get richer.

In your case, your combined cholesterol indicates you have more good
cholesterol than bad. You are naturally high, combined. Did that
make sense? It's REALLY early for me and I shouldn't go into Usenet
when I haven't finished my coffee!


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Vegetarian for 8 years and 2 hours activity daily, slightly
underweight. My cholesterol is 280, but I have a high good
cholesterol score. No drugs.


Angler, I applaud your dedication to your regime of diet and
exercise.What does your cardiologist say? 280 is way too high. I know
there is some buzz about statins having there own problems but don't let
vain pride keep you from lowering your cholesterol. You can look forward
to a surgery scar over your sternum if you don't get it under 200. We
only have three ways of controlling cholesterol, diet, exercise and,
(lastly) drugs. If you can get it under 200 without drugs, great, but
don't toy with it. It is a matter of life and death. Better to be an
Angler than an Angel.

Been there, done that, got the scar to prove it.

- Bill
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Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.


Where do you get your protein from?

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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:01:09 -0500, "Manelli Family"
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"Jangchub" wrote in message
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Stop eating meat of all kinds, lower dairy intake, increase fiber and
soy and amazing things happen. I haven't eaten any meat of any kind
in years and my cholesterol combined is 145 and I'm 51.


Where do you get your protein from?


Well, I still eat eggs and dairy, but I'm working toward being vegan
which is no animals in anything, no leather, etc...

We need far less protein than we think. I can't quote the grams we
need off hand, but it is MUCH lower than you think. I get it from soy
and other greens. There are so many ways to get protein by eating
only vegetables, but legumes and brown or wild rice also completes a
protein and at that you only need to eat rice and beans about three
times a week to get proper protein. Don't take my word for it, as
with anyone or anything else, I could be incorrect. Always check.
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