Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

Cheryl

On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:41:43 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

What do you mean by "gravel"? Anyone involved in the road building
trades knows that gravel is a mixture of rock, sand and clay. It
forms a stable base for the road and can even form a nice dirt
road/driveway itself.

Many people mistakenly use the term "gravel" when referring to crushed
stone. Do you mean crushed stone?

If so, please elaborate on your project. Is the purpose of the
crushed stone purely weed control? Is there a drainage issue that
demands crushed stone? More details please.

John

On 5/28/07 8:57 AM, in article ,
"John Bachman" wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:41:43 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

What do you mean by "gravel"? Anyone involved in the road building
trades knows that gravel is a mixture of rock, sand and clay. It
forms a stable base for the road and can even form a nice dirt
road/driveway itself.

Many people mistakenly use the term "gravel" when referring to crushed
stone. Do you mean crushed stone?
I suspect that is a better term. Locally gravel is nearly synonymous with
crushed stone

If so, please elaborate on your project. Is the purpose of the
crushed stone purely weed control? Is there a drainage issue that
demands crushed stone? More details please.


OK - under the deck is a slope that is a haven for weeds and run off from
the back of the house. I'm too tall to weed under there comfortably. So I
want to suppress the weeds, make a decent parking spot for the hose and
finally fill in the (re-dug) dry well at the walk out door. I want something
stable that the run off won't carry away when it really gets moving (about
once a year).


I suspect the original dry well stopped working when washout filled it in.

Cheryl

On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:57:27 -0400, John Bachman
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:41:43 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

What do you mean by "gravel"? Anyone involved in the road building
trades knows that gravel is a mixture of rock, sand and clay. It
forms a stable base for the road and can even form a nice dirt
road/driveway itself.

Many people mistakenly use the term "gravel" when referring to crushed
stone. Do you mean crushed stone?

Uhhhh, who is mistaken here?

If so, please elaborate on your project. Is the purpose of the
crushed stone purely weed control? Is there a drainage issue that
demands crushed stone? More details please.

John


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravel


Depends upon where you live and who is involved in the road building
trades and what kind of roads you are building, I guess, John.

My bother-in-law is a sales manager for Norris Aggregates. They sell
millions of tons of gravel or crushed stone for roads and concrete and
all sorts of construction projects.

My son owns a truck and hauls gravel, or crushed stone, as you call
it. He is currently involved in hauling 3 inch base rock for the
access raods to a wind farm being constructed in the area. This is
laid directly upon the subgrade.

After the 3 inch base is laid and compacted, they will overlay with
1 1/2 inch rock.

No sand, No clay. Just gravel, rock, crushed stone.... same stuff.

They then have a road.... capable of supporting the extremely heavy
loads, of tower, blade, turbine and control components that will be
transported over these roads.

No mix of sand gravel and clay.

Perhaps you were thinking of concrete? If so, it is a mixture of
cement, gravel (crushed stone) and water and whatever specialty
additives necessary for the project requirements?

Son also hauls sand to one of the local ready mix plants. He doesn't
haul if there has been rain enough to cause any mud on the access road
as any mud buildup on his truck frame that falls into the dump area
has the potential to ruin the mix.

Any clay in the mixture will ruin it and the load will be rejected.

Perhaps things are done differently in your area, I can't speak for
that, buth then again you cannot speak for all inclusively about

Once again, here is a basic primer on gravel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravel

Should you desire more information, I am sure Bill (the Bro-in-Law)
will be happy to forward me what he knows.

I can also have my son request information from a classmate of his who
is now general manager for **** Construction, KC division, a family
held business that contracts all over the state of Missouri.

Perhaps you meant a sand-clay road.

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache...k &cd=1&gl=us


Ouch, be more careful, that's gotta hurt, John
Charlie

Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

Several inches to a foot or so, depending on how well it packs (I
assume you're talking something like pea gravel).
However, as the surface collects "soil" from detritus blowing in and/or
rotting, you'll form more pockets that will allow seeds to germinate.

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

Cheryl


If the conditions are right, no realistic depth of gravel will prevent
germinated seed from finding soil.
Dave

Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

Cheryl


Depending on what type you use it may take 4 - 8 inches but if you are
willing to put up with a few weeds you can get away with using "only" 3
inches of small sized gravel.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Gardening for over 40 years

To see pictures from my garden visit http://members.iglou.com/brosen

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On 5/28/07 11:13 PM, in article
et, "Dave"
wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

Cheryl


If the conditions are right, no realistic depth of gravel will prevent
germinated seed from finding soil.
Dave


I do realize that.

I don't mind the once a season weeding (spring, summer, fall clean up).
gravel has got to be better than the massive crop that is there week after
week with bare soil.

On 5/28/07 11:32 PM, in article ,
"Bill R" wrote:

Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

Cheryl


Depending on what type you use it may take 4 - 8 inches but if you are
willing to put up with a few weeds you can get away with using "only" 3
inches of small sized gravel.
I'll go for 4, I think more will have a potential "slide" issue.

C

On 5/28/07 10:42 PM, in article , "Kay
Lancaster" wrote:

Especially to keep them from rooting from seeds?

Several inches to a foot or so, depending on how well it packs (I
assume you're talking something like pea gravel).
However, as the surface collects "soil" from detritus blowing in and/or
rotting, you'll form more pockets that will allow seeds to germinate.



It still has to be easier to maintain than what I currently have! LOL
C

It still has to be easier to maintain than what I currently have! LOL

Will you be mowing near your gravel? In my experience, there's no such thing
as truly contained gravel. And gravel slung by lawnmower blades is
a lot tougher on both the blades and on the thing the gravel hits than
an organic mulch of some flavor.

Dry lawn clippings make great mulch that needs to be renewed once a year
or so... much less work than gravel. Just make sure the clippings come from
plants not recently treated with herbicide.

On 29 May 2007 21:42:02 GMT, Kay Lancaster wrote:

It still has to be easier to maintain than what I currently have! LOL

Will you be mowing near your gravel? In my experience, there's no such thing
as truly contained gravel. And gravel slung by lawnmower blades is
a lot tougher on both the blades and on the thing the gravel hits than
an organic mulch of some flavor.

Dry lawn clippings make great mulch that needs to be renewed once a year
or so... much less work than gravel. Just make sure the clippings come from
plants not recently treated with herbicide.

Well, if you are using the clippings to suppress weeds and are not
putting them where you want to grow something what does the herbicide
hurt? I think that fits the bill for the OP.

John

On 5/29/07 5:42 PM, in article , "Kay
Lancaster" wrote:

It still has to be easier to maintain than what I currently have! LOL

Will you be mowing near your gravel? In my experience, there's no such thing
as truly contained gravel. And gravel slung by lawnmower blades is
a lot tougher on both the blades and on the thing the gravel hits than
an organic mulch of some flavor.

No - it is under a deck, a place already impossible to mow! and I need it
for a dry well also

Dry lawn clippings make great mulch that needs to be renewed once a year
or so... much less work than gravel. Just make sure the clippings come from
plants not recently treated with herbicide.
Not to worry there
C