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WOW just a heads up for you gardeners that like music.

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To the Editor: The potential for permanent hearing loss due to prolonged
use of personal stereo equipment, such as portable compact-disk or MP3
players, at high decibel levels has been well described in the
literature.1 We have recently become aware of an additional, albeit
uncommon, hazard associated with the use of such devices.
A 37-year-old man was brought to the emergency department at our
hospital. He had been jogging in a thunderstorm, listening to his iPod,
when an adjacent tree was struck by lightning. Witnesses reported that
he was thrown approximately 8 ft (2.4 m) from the tree.
The patient had second-degree burns on his chest and left leg. In
addition, two linear burns extended along his anterior chest and neck to
the sides of his face, terminating in substantial burns in the external
auditory meatus bilaterally, corresponding to the positions of his
earphones at the time of the lightning strike. Both of his tympanic
membranes were ruptured, and he had a severe conductive hearing deficit.
He also had a mandibular fracture. Computed tomography of the mandible
(Figure 1A) and of the temporal bones showed bilateral dislocation of
the incudomalleolar joints (Figure 1B and 1C). Internal fixation of the
mandibular fractures was performed and the perforations of the tympanic
membranes were managed with the use of perichondrial grafting.

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WOW just a heads up for you gardeners that like music.

Bill

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To the Editor: The potential for permanent hearing loss due to prolonged
use of personal stereo equipment, such as portable compact-disk or MP3
players, at high decibel levels has been well described in the
literature.1 We have recently become aware of an additional, albeit
uncommon, hazard associated with the use of such devices.
A 37-year-old man was brought to the emergency department at our
hospital. He had been jogging in a thunderstorm, listening to his iPod,


{snip}

I don't see that they've made any clear connection between the iPod and his
injuries, unless they're implying that the device kept him from noticing the
thunderstorm. If that's the case, he got hurt because he's an idiot, not
because of the iPod.


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"William Wagner" wrote in message
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WOW just a heads up for you gardeners that like music.

Bill

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/.../198?query=TOC

Thunderstorms and iPods ‹ Not a Good iDea

PubMed Citation

To the Editor: The potential for permanent hearing loss due to prolonged
use of personal stereo equipment, such as portable compact-disk or MP3
players, at high decibel levels has been well described in the
literature.1 We have recently become aware of an additional, albeit
uncommon, hazard associated with the use of such devices.
A 37-year-old man was brought to the emergency department at our
hospital. He had been jogging in a thunderstorm, listening to his iPod,


{snip}

I don't see that they've made any clear connection between the iPod and his
injuries, unless they're implying that the device kept him from noticing the
thunderstorm. If that's the case, he got hurt because he's an idiot, not
because of the iPod.


I read it different.

"The patient had second-degree burns on his chest and left leg. In
addition, two linear burns extended along his anterior chest and neck to
the sides of his face, terminating in substantial burns in the external
auditory meatus bilaterally, corresponding to the positions of his
earphones at the time of the lightning strike. Both of his tympanic
membranes were ruptured, and he had a severe conductive hearing
deficit."

I thought of conducting energy into his ears via the Ipod device.
Eight feet away and hurt.

Bill

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In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"William Wagner" wrote in message
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WOW just a heads up for you gardeners that like music.

Bill

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/.../198?query=TOC

Thunderstorms and iPods ‹ Not a Good iDea

PubMed Citation

To the Editor: The potential for permanent hearing loss due to
prolonged
use of personal stereo equipment, such as portable compact-disk or MP3
players, at high decibel levels has been well described in the
literature.1 We have recently become aware of an additional, albeit
uncommon, hazard associated with the use of such devices.
A 37-year-old man was brought to the emergency department at our
hospital. He had been jogging in a thunderstorm, listening to his iPod,


{snip}

I don't see that they've made any clear connection between the iPod and
his
injuries, unless they're implying that the device kept him from noticing
the
thunderstorm. If that's the case, he got hurt because he's an idiot, not
because of the iPod.


I read it different.

"The patient had second-degree burns on his chest and left leg. In
addition, two linear burns extended along his anterior chest and neck to
the sides of his face, terminating in substantial burns in the external
auditory meatus bilaterally, corresponding to the positions of his
earphones at the time of the lightning strike. Both of his tympanic
membranes were ruptured, and he had a severe conductive hearing
deficit."

I thought of conducting energy into his ears via the Ipod device.
Eight feet away and hurt.

Bill



I suspect the noise would've caused ear damage either way.
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William Wagner wrote:
In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"William Wagner" wrote in message
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WOW just a heads up for you gardeners that like music.

Bill

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/.../198?query=TOC

Thunderstorms and iPods ‹ Not a Good iDea

PubMed Citation

To the Editor: The potential for permanent hearing loss due to prolonged
use of personal stereo equipment, such as portable compact-disk or MP3
players, at high decibel levels has been well described in the
literature.1 We have recently become aware of an additional, albeit
uncommon, hazard associated with the use of such devices.
A 37-year-old man was brought to the emergency department at our
hospital. He had been jogging in a thunderstorm, listening to his iPod,

{snip}

I don't see that they've made any clear connection between the iPod and his
injuries, unless they're implying that the device kept him from noticing the
thunderstorm. If that's the case, he got hurt because he's an idiot, not
because of the iPod.


I read it different.

"The patient had second-degree burns on his chest and left leg. In
addition, two linear burns extended along his anterior chest and neck to
the sides of his face, terminating in substantial burns in the external
auditory meatus bilaterally, corresponding to the positions of his
earphones at the time of the lightning strike. Both of his tympanic
membranes were ruptured, and he had a severe conductive hearing
deficit."

I thought of conducting energy into his ears via the Ipod device.
Eight feet away and hurt.

Bill


I would still read it as "This idiot was out running in a thunderstorm
and...". There is no way that being struck by lightning, even an
indirect hit, is beneficial and the extent of anyone's injuries in case
of a strike are totally unpredictable. The real lesson is that, in case
of lightning in the area, get your butt to a safe area, kick back, and
drink beer until the storm has passed.

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William Wagner wrote:
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

snip

I don't see that they've made any clear connection between the iPod and his
injuries, unless they're implying that the device kept him from noticing the
thunderstorm. If that's the case, he got hurt because he's an idiot, not
because of the iPod.


I read it different.

"The patient had second-degree burns on his chest and left leg. In
addition, two linear burns extended along his anterior chest and neck to
the sides of his face, terminating in substantial burns in the external
auditory meatus bilaterally, corresponding to the positions of his
earphones at the time of the lightning strike. Both of his tympanic
membranes were ruptured, and he had a severe conductive hearing
deficit."

I thought of conducting energy into his ears via the Ipod device.
Eight feet away and hurt.

Bill


He was an idiot for being out in the storm like that.

Bill is correct in his assessment of the article. I've have heard quite
a bit about cases such as this. still have friends in the medical
fields and still read a lot of medical journals, even though I am no
longer a practicing nurse. There have been other cases back in the day
with walk-mans and those cd-player walk-man types. The wires carry the
extra current, and when examining the patient, you would find that the
burn pattern is identical to the areas that the wires would be at. I
have seen it once where a person was hit with the walk-man and the case
that held the tape was melted into his skin, unfortunately the patient
in this case was a young boy. If my memory serves right, he was 11 or 12.

rae
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WOW just a heads up for you gardeners that like music.

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PubMed Citation

To the Editor: The potential for permanent hearing loss due to prolonged
use of personal stereo equipment, such as portable compact-disk or MP3
players, at high decibel levels has been well described in the
literature.1 We have recently become aware of an additional, albeit
uncommon, hazard associated with the use of such devices.
A 37-year-old man was brought to the emergency department at our
hospital. He had been jogging in a thunderstorm, listening to his iPod,
when an adjacent tree was struck by lightning. Witnesses reported that
he was thrown approximately 8 ft (2.4 m) from the tree.
The patient had second-degree burns on his chest and left leg. In
addition, two linear burns extended along his anterior chest and neck to
the sides of his face, terminating in substantial burns in the external
auditory meatus bilaterally, corresponding to the positions of his
earphones at the time of the lightning strike. Both of his tympanic
membranes were ruptured, and he had a severe conductive hearing deficit.
He also had a mandibular fracture. Computed tomography of the mandible
(Figure 1A) and of the temporal bones showed bilateral dislocation of
the incudomalleolar joints (Figure 1B and 1C). Internal fixation of the
mandibular fractures was performed and the perforations of the tympanic
membranes were managed with the use of perichondrial grafting.

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Sounds more like the guy is a moron than unlucky. Like Joe said, I don't
see the iPod being in any way shape or form connected to his idiocy.


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William Wagner wrote:
In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"William Wagner" wrote in message
...
WOW just a heads up for you gardeners that like music.

Bill

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/.../198?query=TOC

Thunderstorms and iPods ‹ Not a Good iDea

PubMed Citation

To the Editor: The potential for permanent hearing loss due to prolonged
use of personal stereo equipment, such as portable compact-disk or MP3
players, at high decibel levels has been well described in the
literature.1 We have recently become aware of an additional, albeit
uncommon, hazard associated with the use of such devices.
A 37-year-old man was brought to the emergency department at our
hospital. He had been jogging in a thunderstorm, listening to his iPod,

{snip}

I don't see that they've made any clear connection between the iPod and his
injuries, unless they're implying that the device kept him from noticing the
thunderstorm. If that's the case, he got hurt because he's an idiot, not
because of the iPod.


I read it different.

"The patient had second-degree burns on his chest and left leg. In
addition, two linear burns extended along his anterior chest and neck to
the sides of his face, terminating in substantial burns in the external
auditory meatus bilaterally, corresponding to the positions of his
earphones at the time of the lightning strike. Both of his tympanic
membranes were ruptured, and he had a severe conductive hearing
deficit."

I thought of conducting energy into his ears via the Ipod device.
Eight feet away and hurt.

Bill




In summary, if you are struck by lightening, your injuries may be worse
if you are using an iPod. I don't have an iPod, but I'd take those odds.

Bob

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PubMed Citation

To the Editor: The potential for permanent hearing loss due to prolonged
use of personal stereo equipment, such as portable compact-disk or MP3
players, at high decibel levels has been well described in the
literature.1 We have recently become aware of an additional, albeit
uncommon, hazard associated with the use of such devices.
A 37-year-old man was brought to the emergency department at our
hospital. He had been jogging in a thunderstorm, listening to his iPod,
when an adjacent tree was struck by lightning. Witnesses reported that
he was thrown approximately 8 ft (2.4 m) from the tree.
The patient had second-degree burns on his chest and left leg. In
addition, two linear burns extended along his anterior chest and neck to
the sides of his face, terminating in substantial burns in the external
auditory meatus bilaterally, corresponding to the positions of his
earphones at the time of the lightning strike. Both of his tympanic
membranes were ruptured, and he had a severe conductive hearing deficit.
He also had a mandibular fracture. Computed tomography of the mandible
(Figure 1A) and of the temporal bones showed bilateral dislocation of
the incudomalleolar joints (Figure 1B and 1C). Internal fixation of the
mandibular fractures was performed and the perforations of the tympanic
membranes were managed with the use of perichondrial grafting.

--


Sounds more like the guy is a moron than unlucky. Like Joe said, I don't
see the iPod being in any way shape or form connected to his idiocy.



If he was carrying a pocket knife, there might've been a pocket knife-shaped
burn on his hip, due to the presence of an extra piece of metal in his
pocket.

Who the phuque cares? Eight feet from the lightning strike - would his
injuries have been point-two-seven percent less severe without the knife?


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