enigma expounded:


Oregon Scientific WMR968.
i need to get the cover for the temperature & humidity sensor.
the heavy dews we've had lately are messing up the humidity
readings. everything is solar powered with battery backup

Mine is also solar powered, and wireless from the station to the
datalogger in here. That's connected to the computer via a USB cable.
There's a console up on top of the computer desk with all of the info
digitally displayed.

i downloaded the software to post to Weather Underground, but i
need to get a long enough USB cable to reach my desktop from
the computer. the one i have has an 18" cable, which just
about reaches from the USB port on the front of the computer
to the top of the case.

I want the anemometer set up before I connect up the Weather
Underground. I do love that site, the local radar is great, and
another guy has a station less than four miles from me, so he's mo
local weather for now G

i'm not really happy with the location of my anemometer. i
think i'd like to move everything up to the roof.
lee

Mine's going on top of a huge trunk I left up when we took down the
trees. Extended with a mast it should be about 45' in the air.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

NWS usually wants rain accumulation to be recorded midnight to midnight for
the day. Rain for the year is measured from July to June regarding annual
rainfall. But, reported January to end of December on most TV weather
regarding annual rainfall. (???)

Always wondered how rain accumulation is measured removing variables between
measuring stations for comparisons sake. There is discrepancy between
verticality of measurement location, wind discrepancy by location, immediate
high precipitation variance within a given location, affect of topography
and tall buildings on a given rain gauge, and so forth that all affect the
total accumulation of rainfall measured in a rain gauge.

A simple example is a live 5 miles from a small town which the NWS has rain
reports from. The small town may have no rain and I may have .6 inch. Am
sure there was rain somewhere inbetween, possibly including resident of that
small town.

A exaggerated example of topography and adjacent tall buildings, I have 2
rain gauges mounted whose entry mouths are about 3 inches below the top of a
pole where rain enters each gauge. One is on the south end, one on the
north end. The rain accumulation is directly attributable to the rainfall
on each rain gauge if north or south wind. Less so on the downwind side.

A rain gauge whose mouth is not in direct path of such obstruction is not
measuring true rainfall accumulation during heavy winds compared to a rain
gauge on the leeward side of an obstruction. Rain in the former rain gauge
is being blown about at the mouth of the rain gauge, much more than the
latter. "Common sense" may say otherwise. So, I rethink high wind and
hurricane areas regarding rainfall reports from NWS and TV stations. They
are probably higher in reality.
Dave

"enigma" wrote in message
. ..
Cheryl Isaak wrote in
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Well, it poured here last night!

it started raining shortly after i posted last night, but we
only got .20". it was raining at .38"/hour for a while then
slowed down to .13"/hour... can you tell i just got a new
weather station?
total rainfall since Saturday is .98". i actually prefer this
sort of slow rain because it doesn't cause runoff. it's slow
enough to soak in.
i cleaned out the shade garden area last week & put the 2
hostas, 2 of the astilbe & the 4 hellebores in. they look
pretty happy. boy, were they rootbound (except the hostas
because i cut the pieces out for you & a friend in WI). Boo
planted one of the astilbes near the kitchen door. the soil
there is really sandy, but it's shady & the daylillies didn't
like it there. i ripped out the day lillies trying to take
over the doorstep there & put the lady's mantle in there. i
still will be pulling the lillies out between the stone steps
for a while. i'm sure i missed a lot of the tubers. at least
lady's mantle is lower growing & not so messy with dead flower
stalks... however, it appears the slugs like it. never noticed
that on my other one.
lee Barnes & Noble, around 9:15 tomorrow morning?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

Wish I could! I caught a cold over the weekend. Between being too tired and
cold rinks, I think getting soaked Saturday night pushed me into a nasty
head cold.
More rain here and I'm got to go grab some trade plants for Lee.
C


On 10/10/07 11:04 PM, in article ,
"fran" wrote:

Send some of that to us down here in NC, please! We're under extream
drought conditions, where it has rained all of twice in 4 months for a
grand total of 1". Cattlemen are selling off thier herds 'cause they
can't feed them on withered pastures.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:19:15 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

On 10/9/07 9:16 PM, in article ,
"enigma" wrote:

Ann wrote in
:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:


I thought I was going to drown getting out of the rink
Saturday night. The puddles were ankle deep and on 93, the
nuts were hydroplaning by me at stupid speeds.

Yea, it rained like hell up in Lebanon, Maine, too. It's
been plenty wet up at that house, but not down here.

We ended up with .65" yesterday and another dribble of .07"
today. It's supposed to rain off and on all week, but what
we really need is a good daylong soaking. We're down over
5" still.

not until the loggers are done!
they couldn't get into the woods last winter because it
didn't freeze. they're only able to cut now because it's so
dry. even another inch of rain right now & they'll have to
leave because it gets boggy & we can't afford to damage the
sugarbush.
we had a total of .75" here. NOAA says 100% chance of rain
tonight. my weather station says clear... hmmm.
lee


Well, it poured here last night!
Cheryl

"Dave" expounded:

A rain gauge whose mouth is not in direct path of such obstruction is not
measuring true rainfall accumulation during heavy winds compared to a rain
gauge on the leeward side of an obstruction. Rain in the former rain gauge
is being blown about at the mouth of the rain gauge, much more than the
latter. "Common sense" may say otherwise. So, I rethink high wind and
hurricane areas regarding rainfall reports from NWS and TV stations. They
are probably higher in reality.

Here's an interesting page on rain data innacuracies (such as what
you've described above):
http://www.onerain.com/includes/pdf/...ageRecords.pdf

Somewhere along the line I read about the discrepancies between manual
rain gauges and the rain gauges on our stations. The manual ones are
more accurate, but you can calibrate your station to be closer to the
manual. I've got a manual out there near the rain gauge on the
station just to keep it honest.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

fran wrote:

Send some of that to us down here in NC, please! We're under extream
drought conditions, where it has rained all of twice in 4 months for a
grand total of 1". Cattlemen are selling off thier herds 'cause they
can't feed them on withered pastures.

I wonder if anyone might be considering the feasibility
of selling off some of the sheepeople of Wake county in
order to reduce the demand on the dwindling water reservoir.

On Oct 9, 5:17 pm, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
On 10/9/07 9:05 AM, in article
m, "raeannsimpson"





wrote:
On Oct 9, 6:38 am, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
On 10/8/07 8:01 PM, in article ,

"Ann" wrote:
William Wagner expounded:

Just read a weather guy who wrote this hot dry spell may cause more
damage than a hurricane. I look about my place and notice no color on
trees¹s just a sort of malaise. Been watering by hand on things that
get my attention.
My small home made pond has been needing water more often. But and
here is a something I've not seen before. I have two possums coming to
the pond in daylight. One got caught in my leaf protection fiber
fence. I freed him and with out a snarl he wandered away like drunken
animal.
I was thinking Rabid as I have never seen a possum here before 8o PM.
Must be tough on our wildlife!

It was in the high 80's last week with high humidity, just nasty for
October. It finally rained early this morning, for the first time in
weeks, my weather station registered .65". We need so much more! A
huge catalpa tree down the street is all wilted, I've never seen
anything like it.

I thought I was going to drown getting out of the rink Saturday night. The
puddles were ankle deep and on 93, the nuts were hydroplaning by me at
stupid speeds.

I'd better go check the stuff I just moved and make sure they didn't lose
all their soil.

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We finally had rain here also....just not where we wanted it!
The shower mixer/distributor "rained" in my wall about a week ago, and
of course it ran down onto the carpet & under the vinyl...ugh!!!

We did have a bit of the other "rain" on Saturday night also...

Oh no!

Cheryl- Hide quoted text -

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Oh yeah...

I'm trying to look at the bright side of this...I get a whole new
bedroom (walls, carpet, chest/dresser) and bathroom...(vinyl only).
H.O. ins. covered it all!

On Oct 11, 6:43 am, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
Wish I could! I caught a cold over the weekend. Between being too tired and
cold rinks, I think getting soaked Saturday night pushed me into a nasty
head cold.
More rain here and I'm got to go grab some trade plants for Lee.
C

On 10/10/07 11:04 PM, in article ,



"fran" wrote:
Send some of that to us down here in NC, please! We're under extream
drought conditions, where it has rained all of twice in 4 months for a
grand total of 1". Cattlemen are selling off thier herds 'cause they
can't feed them on withered pastures.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:19:15 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

On 10/9/07 9:16 PM, in article ,
"enigma" wrote:

Ann wrote in
:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

I thought I was going to drown getting out of the rink
Saturday night. The puddles were ankle deep and on 93, the
nuts were hydroplaning by me at stupid speeds.

Yea, it rained like hell up in Lebanon, Maine, too. It's
been plenty wet up at that house, but not down here.

We ended up with .65" yesterday and another dribble of .07"
today. It's supposed to rain off and on all week, but what
we really need is a good daylong soaking. We're down over
5" still.

not until the loggers are done!
they couldn't get into the woods last winter because it
didn't freeze. they're only able to cut now because it's so
dry. even another inch of rain right now & they'll have to
leave because it gets boggy & we can't afford to damage the
sugarbush.
we had a total of .75" here. NOAA says 100% chance of rain
tonight. my weather station says clear... hmmm.
lee

Well, it poured here last night!
Cheryl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ugh...summer/fall colds are the worst! Feel for ya!
As a side note...I'm quite happy to report that the plants you sent me
have survived the drought so far! Scabosia & allium are both
flowering. Was touch and go with the rudbeckia awhile, but it seems to
be holding it's own.

Rae

On Oct 10, 11:04 pm, fran wrote:
Send some of that to us down here in NC, please! We're under extream
drought conditions, where it has rained all of twice in 4 months for a
grand total of 1". Cattlemen are selling off thier herds 'cause they
can't feed them on withered pastures.


Oh, please...I've been asking them to send us rain all year...hasn't
worked yet... I guess we're gonna have to pay frag to come down and do
a special spit turtle thing...LOL!

On Oct 11, 8:14 am, Jim wrote:
fran wrote:

Send some of that to us down here in NC, please! We're under extream
drought conditions, where it has rained all of twice in 4 months for a
grand total of 1". Cattlemen are selling off thier herds 'cause they
can't feed them on withered pastures.

I wonder if anyone might be considering the feasibility
of selling off some of the sheepeople of Wake county in
order to reduce the demand on the dwindling water reservoir.

Here in the Sampson/Duplin/Bladen/Cumberland areas, most 'sheep-
people' have already started selling their sheep. Or they have already
sold them all. Same goes for cattle and goats. Noticed on a classified
site (craigslist.org) that several truckers have volunteered to bring
back hay from the mid-west after they've finished their long-hauls.
People are reserving the hay in advance like crazy. Not that I can
blame them. Our horses & cows seem to like the 'corn-stalk' hay very
well. However, we are saving it for later in winter. Most farmers
around here are ok with the hay farmers baling the cornstalks, but no
farmer has agreed for anyone to use the meager soybean crops for hay.
The FSA/AG depts. as well as the Farm Bureau Credit Union have been
requesting that farmers who also have livestock use their soybeans as
hay. Not seeing that happen yet. They are holding out with hopes that
soybean prices will soar over the winter and in to next year. We've
had several prospects for peanut hay later...but not much in the way
of peanut crops around here either. We are trying to hang onto the
cattle, but may start selling off some horses, not that we'd get
anything near full price (worth) for them. I want to hang on to them
as long as I can...rather keep all of them (cows & horses) during hard
times than wind up selling them to go to the meat market...

On 10/11/07 8:30 AM, in article
, "raeannsimpson"
wrote:

On Oct 9, 5:17 pm, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
On 10/9/07 9:05 AM, in article
m, "raeannsimpson"





wrote:
On Oct 9, 6:38 am, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
On 10/8/07 8:01 PM, in article ,

"Ann" wrote:
William Wagner expounded:

Just read a weather guy who wrote this hot dry spell may cause more
damage than a hurricane. I look about my place and notice no color on
trees¹s just a sort of malaise. Been watering by hand on things that
get my attention.
My small home made pond has been needing water more often. But and
here is a something I've not seen before. I have two possums coming to
the pond in daylight. One got caught in my leaf protection fiber
fence. I freed him and with out a snarl he wandered away like drunken
animal.
I was thinking Rabid as I have never seen a possum here before 8o PM.
Must be tough on our wildlife!

It was in the high 80's last week with high humidity, just nasty for
October. It finally rained early this morning, for the first time in
weeks, my weather station registered .65". We need so much more! A
huge catalpa tree down the street is all wilted, I've never seen
anything like it.

I thought I was going to drown getting out of the rink Saturday night. The
puddles were ankle deep and on 93, the nuts were hydroplaning by me at
stupid speeds.

I'd better go check the stuff I just moved and make sure they didn't lose
all their soil.

Cheryl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We finally had rain here also....just not where we wanted it!
The shower mixer/distributor "rained" in my wall about a week ago, and
of course it ran down onto the carpet & under the vinyl...ugh!!!

We did have a bit of the other "rain" on Saturday night also...

Oh no!

Cheryl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh yeah...

I'm trying to look at the bright side of this...I get a whole new
bedroom (walls, carpet, chest/dresser) and bathroom...(vinyl only).
H.O. ins. covered it all!


YAH!