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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:27:40 -0500, Jim wrote:

Cheryl Isaak wrote:

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As I write, it is 6:36 AM and it 28 degrees. And still dark.

Cheryl
Southern NH


34F was the morning low here. we got our first
frost this morning YeeHaw!!!

Jim
central NC


This morning it was 34. Now it is 68. First fall day to use the
house furnace. No frost yet, mosquitoes are actively feeding!
east TN
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Jim wrote:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

about 3 years ago a friend gave us a dead looking stick and
told us if we planted the stick in the ground and watered it
once a day for two weeks we'd get a Confederate Rose bush.

I decided to play along thinking there would be some great
future laughs concerning how I was tricked into planting a
dead looking stick.

http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

well, the friend was not playing a joke. now I get to enjoy
taking cuttings from this bush and telling other friends how
if you plant this dead looking stick in the ground you'll get
a Confederate Rose bush.

been kind of neat watching this bush being propagated into
the yards of friends.


That "rose" has palmate leaves which I have never seen on a rose before.
Usually they are compound. The blooms and buds sure look like roses.

Does anyone know its botanical name or another common name for it? I
doubt it would be cold hardy in my zone. I would like to see if there
is anything like it on helpmefind.com.

The only other rose I saw with very unusual leaves was what some thought
might be an alba; instead of the usual five of 7 leaflets on one stem,
it had several more pairs than that.

I have just learned that roses may root from "sticks" if you put them in
the ground when they are dormant. So when you say "stick", I assume
that there are no leaves and that it was dormant when you put it in the
ground. It must root easily; sometimes it helps to use rooting powder,
but I guess them thar Confederate roses root like Forsythia.


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Jim wrote:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

about 3 years ago a friend gave us a dead looking stick and
told us if we planted the stick in the ground and watered it
once a day for two weeks we'd get a Confederate Rose bush.

I decided to play along thinking there would be some great
future laughs concerning how I was tricked into planting a
dead looking stick.

http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

well, the friend was not playing a joke. now I get to enjoy
taking cuttings from this bush and telling other friends how
if you plant this dead looking stick in the ground you'll get
a Confederate Rose bush.

been kind of neat watching this bush being propagated into
the yards of friends.


That "rose" has palmate leaves which I have never seen on a rose before.
Usually they are compound. The blooms and buds sure look like roses.

Does anyone know its botanical name or another common name for it? I
doubt it would be cold hardy in my zone. I would like to see if there
is anything like it on helpmefind.com.

The only other rose I saw with very unusual leaves was what some thought
might be an alba; instead of the usual five of 7 leaflets on one stem,
it had several more pairs than that.

I have just learned that roses may root from "sticks" if you put them in
the ground when they are dormant. So when you say "stick", I assume
that there are no leaves and that it was dormant when you put it in the
ground. It must root easily; sometimes it helps to use rooting powder,
but I guess them thar Confederate roses root like Forsythia.



Not really a rose, read more he
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/714/
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On Oct 30, 4:28 pm, Hettie® wrote:
Jim wrote:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html


about 3 years ago a friend gave us a dead looking stick and
told us if we planted the stick in the ground and watered it
once a day for two weeks we'd get a Confederate Rose bush.


I decided to play along thinking there would be some great
future laughs concerning how I was tricked into planting a
dead looking stick.


http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html


well, the friend was not playing a joke. now I get to enjoy
taking cuttings from this bush and telling other friends how
if you plant this dead looking stick in the ground you'll get
a Confederate Rose bush.


been kind of neat watching this bush being propagated into
the yards of friends.


That "rose" has palmate leaves which I have never seen on a rose before.
Usually they are compound. The blooms and buds sure look like roses.

Does anyone know its botanical name or another common name for it? I
doubt it would be cold hardy in my zone. I would like to see if there
is anything like it on helpmefind.com.

The only other rose I saw with very unusual leaves was what some thought
might be an alba; instead of the usual five of 7 leaflets on one stem,
it had several more pairs than that.

I have just learned that roses may root from "sticks" if you put them in
the ground when they are dormant. So when you say "stick", I assume
that there are no leaves and that it was dormant when you put it in the
ground. It must root easily; sometimes it helps to use rooting powder,
but I guess them thar Confederate roses root like Forsythia.


You are correct. it isn't a rose at all, but is in the mallow family.
It is Hibiscus mutabilis.

Emilie

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Phisherman wrote:

Jim wrote:
Cheryl Isaak wrote:

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As I write, it is 6:36 AM and it 28 degrees. And still dark.

Cheryl
Southern NH


34F was the morning low here. we got our first
frost this morning YeeHaw!!!

Jim
central NC


This morning it was 34. Now it is 68. First fall day to use the
house furnace. No frost yet, mosquitoes are actively feeding!
east TN


it'd be my guess of how there needs to be an exact
weather condition where the correct combination of
cool air in alliance with a specific amount of
moisture are timed into coexistence with one another
in order to form a proper frost. but, that's all
simply a speculation on my part since I'm not schooled
in the science of meteorology.


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Janet Baraclough wrote:

from Jim contains these words:
Cheryl Isaak wrote:

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As I write, it is 6:36 AM and it 28 degrees. And still dark.

Cheryl
Southern NH


34F was the morning low here. we got our first
frost this morning YeeHaw!!!

Jim
central NC


We had our first night-frost on 24th september,
but haven't had one since.

Janet (west Scotland)


those silver reflections from the mornings first rays of
light reaching from the raising sun are spectacular to me.
a true joy when timing and being in the right place at the
right time allows me to spend a few seconds watching the
natural beauty unfold before my eyes.

this year, first frost was a good thick one. not one of
those lite spotty patchy ones. yep a nice thick one.
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Hettie® wrote:

Jim wrote:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html


[....]

a Confederate Rose bush.

been kind of neat watching this bush being propagated into
the yards of friends.


That "rose" has palmate leaves which I have never seen on a rose before.
Usually they are compound. The blooms and buds sure look like roses.

Does anyone know its botanical name or another common name for it? I
doubt it would be cold hardy in my zone. I would like to see if there
is anything like it on helpmefind.com.

The only other rose I saw with very unusual leaves was what some thought
might be an alba; instead of the usual five of 7 leaflets on one stem,
it had several more pairs than that.

I have just learned that roses may root from "sticks" if you put them in
the ground when they are dormant. So when you say "stick", I assume
that there are no leaves and that it was dormant when you put it in the
ground. It must root easily; sometimes it helps to use rooting powder,
but I guess them thar Confederate roses root like Forsythia.


http://www.ask.com/web?q=Growing+Con...rc=6&o=0&l=dir

the above URL points to the search results provided by ask.com

I hope you find the information useful and informative.
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Hettie® said (on or about) 10/30/2007 19:28:


Jim wrote:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

about 3 years ago a friend gave us a dead looking stick and told us if
we planted the stick in the ground and watered it once a day for two
weeks we'd get a Confederate Rose bush.
I decided to play along thinking there would be some great future
laughs concerning how I was tricked into planting a dead looking stick.
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

well, the friend was not playing a joke. now I get to enjoy taking
cuttings from this bush and telling other friends how if you plant
this dead looking stick in the ground you'll get a Confederate Rose
bush.
been kind of neat watching this bush being propagated into the yards
of friends.


That "rose" has palmate leaves which I have never seen on a rose before.
Usually they are compound. The blooms and buds sure look like roses.


Looks like okra leaves. Hibiscus?

Does anyone know its botanical name or another common name for it? I
doubt it would be cold hardy in my zone. I would like to see if there
is anything like it on helpmefind.com.

The only other rose I saw with very unusual leaves was what some thought
might be an alba; instead of the usual five of 7 leaflets on one stem,
it had several more pairs than that.

I have just learned that roses may root from "sticks" if you put them in
the ground when they are dormant. So when you say "stick", I assume
that there are no leaves and that it was dormant when you put it in the
ground. It must root easily; sometimes it helps to use rooting powder,
but I guess them thar Confederate roses root like Forsythia.




--
More people vote for their favorite singers on
American Idol type shows than for their elected
officials.
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We're having a bit of a cold snap here in 84774. It is in the mid forties
at night.

Stayed at my cabin 40 miles north, and 4,000 higher last week, and it was 21
at night.

Steve ;-)


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On Oct 30, 8:05 pm, Elmo wrote:
Hettie® said (on or about) 10/30/2007 19:28:





Jim wrote:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html


about 3 years ago a friend gave us a dead looking stick and told us if
we planted the stick in the ground and watered it once a day for two
weeks we'd get a Confederate Rose bush.
I decided to play along thinking there would be some great future
laughs concerning how I was tricked into planting a dead looking stick.
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html


well, the friend was not playing a joke. now I get to enjoy taking
cuttings from this bush and telling other friends how if you plant
this dead looking stick in the ground you'll get a Confederate Rose
bush.
been kind of neat watching this bush being propagated into the yards
of friends.


That "rose" has palmate leaves which I have never seen on a rose before.
Usually they are compound. The blooms and buds sure look like roses.


Looks like okra leaves. Hibiscus?

Does anyone know its botanical name or another common name for it? I
doubt it would be cold hardy in my zone. I would like to see if there
is anything like it on helpmefind.com.


The only other rose I saw with very unusual leaves was what some thought
might be an alba; instead of the usual five of 7 leaflets on one stem,
it had several more pairs than that.


I have just learned that roses may root from "sticks" if you put them in
the ground when they are dormant. So when you say "stick", I assume
that there are no leaves and that it was dormant when you put it in the
ground. It must root easily; sometimes it helps to use rooting powder,
but I guess them thar Confederate roses root like Forsythia.


--
More people vote for their favorite singers on
American Idol type shows than for their elected
officials.


I'm sure I;ve seen this in Red growing on roadside in Mid Tennessee.



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Jim wrote:


http://www.ask.com/web?q=Growing+Con...rc=6&o=0&l=dir

the above URL points to the search results provided by ask.com

I hope you find the information useful and informative.


Two links took me to Dave's Garden and several other interesting
articles which were indeed informative. Lovely thing. Hibiscus mutabilis.

Each person in their own way contributed to solving that mystery, and
Confederate Rose was not incorrect either. Alas, only grows in zones 7
to 11, wouldn't want to try it as an annual although if seeds started
early enough, would bloom the first year.

If and when I have the time, may try to grow one as a potted plant and
bring it in for the winter. It is a pretty thing.

Thanks for all the good comments and links.


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Hard to remember. Sorry about that.

Thanks again for the responses.

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Jim wrote:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

about 3 years ago a friend gave us a dead looking stick and
told us if we planted the stick in the ground and watered it
once a day for two weeks we'd get a Confederate Rose bush.

I decided to play along thinking there would be some great
future laughs concerning how I was tricked into planting a
dead looking stick.

http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

well, the friend was not playing a joke. now I get to enjoy
taking cuttings from this bush and telling other friends how
if you plant this dead looking stick in the ground you'll get
a Confederate Rose bush.

been kind of neat watching this bush being propagated into
the yards of friends.


That "rose" has palmate leaves which I have never seen on a rose before.
Usually they are compound. The blooms and buds sure look like roses.

Does anyone know its botanical name or another common name for it? I
doubt it would be cold hardy in my zone. I would like to see if there
is anything like it on helpmefind.com.


The botanical name is Hibiscus mutabilis, but Googling on the exact phrase
"Confederate rose" works. Google finds more than 25,000 hits on the common name.

Two nice ones near the top of the list a

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/s.../hibiscus.html

http://www.floridata.com/ref/H/hibis_mu.cfm

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that rose is a Hibiscus.
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Jim wrote:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

about 3 years ago a friend gave us a dead looking stick and
told us if we planted the stick in the ground and watered it
once a day for two weeks we'd get a Confederate Rose bush.

I decided to play along thinking there would be some great
future laughs concerning how I was tricked into planting a
dead looking stick.

http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...rate-Rose.html

well, the friend was not playing a joke. now I get to enjoy
taking cuttings from this bush and telling other friends how
if you plant this dead looking stick in the ground you'll get
a Confederate Rose bush.

been kind of neat watching this bush being propagated into
the yards of friends.


That "rose" has palmate leaves which I have never seen on a rose before.
Usually they are compound. The blooms and buds sure look like roses.

Does anyone know its botanical name or another common name for it? I
doubt it would be cold hardy in my zone. I would like to see if there
is anything like it on helpmefind.com.

The only other rose I saw with very unusual leaves was what some thought
might be an alba; instead of the usual five of 7 leaflets on one stem,
it had several more pairs than that.

I have just learned that roses may root from "sticks" if you put them in
the ground when they are dormant. So when you say "stick", I assume
that there are no leaves and that it was dormant when you put it in the
ground. It must root easily; sometimes it helps to use rooting powder,
but I guess them thar Confederate roses root like Forsythia.



Not really a rose, read more he
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/714/



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