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Over 400 people lost their lives in Christmas Tree fire related
incidents last year. In an attempt to stave off my annual Christmas
Tree safety speech I ask everyone to post this checklist on your
refrigerator door AND give one to each of your neighbors:

1. Don't buy a Christmas Tree that is dry or dropping needles.
Check this by holding the end of a branch while gently pulling your
hand over it. Only a few of the needles should fall off.

2. Request your Christmas Tree vendor to make a fresh cut
approximately one inch from the bottom to help enable your tree to
drink the water you provide it. Make sure your tree stand holds
plenty of water and check it daily to make sure it doesn't run out.

3. If your tree is wobbly redo the setup and be sure it is
centered in the stand and that the bolts or screws are tight.

4. Don't position a Christmas Tree where it may hinder an
emergency exit. Never place your tree within three feet of a furnace,
fireplace, or radiator. Try to avoid using electrical chords that run
long distances by placing the tree near an outlet.

5. Check your lights to make sure they are certified by a
recognized testing laboratory such as UL. Replace any string of
lights that has broken or frayed areas. Never use use electric lights
on a metal tree.

6. Unplug your Christmas Tree before you leave or go to bed.

7. If you use an artificial tree, make sure it is fire-retardant.

8. When your Christmas Tree begins to drop needles, dispose of it.
Do not leave it in your garage or beside the house.

9. Closely supervise small children around the Christmas Tree.
Many tree decorations are breakable and can be swallowed.
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"Jason" wrote in message
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Over 400 people lost their lives in Christmas Tree fire related
incidents last year. In an attempt to stave off my annual Christmas
Tree safety speech I ask everyone to post this checklist on your
refrigerator door AND give one to each of your neighbors:

1. Don't buy a Christmas Tree that is dry or dropping needles.
Check this by holding the end of a branch while gently pulling your
hand over it. Only a few of the needles should fall off.

2. Request your Christmas Tree vendor to make a fresh cut
approximately one inch from the bottom to help enable your tree to
drink the water you provide it. Make sure your tree stand holds
plenty of water and check it daily to make sure it doesn't run out.

3. If your tree is wobbly redo the setup and be sure it is
centered in the stand and that the bolts or screws are tight.

4. Don't position a Christmas Tree where it may hinder an
emergency exit. Never place your tree within three feet of a furnace,
fireplace, or radiator. Try to avoid using electrical chords that run
long distances by placing the tree near an outlet.

5. Check your lights to make sure they are certified by a
recognized testing laboratory such as UL. Replace any string of
lights that has broken or frayed areas. Never use use electric lights
on a metal tree.

6. Unplug your Christmas Tree before you leave or go to bed.

7. If you use an artificial tree, make sure it is fire-retardant.

8. When your Christmas Tree begins to drop needles, dispose of it.
Do not leave it in your garage or beside the house.

9. Closely supervise small children around the Christmas Tree.
Many tree decorations are breakable and can be swallowed.


Add one:

Use the mini lights, and use strings of many lights not a few lights.

A string of 24 lights for example puts 5 volts at each bulb.

A string of 50 lights puts 2.4 volts at each bulb.

The 50 light string will run dimmer - but the bulbs will run a lot
cooler and last a lot longer.

The strings of "C4" I think they are which people used to use
quite a lot (ie: night light bulbs) run a LOT hotter at each bulb.

Ted


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On Nov 19, 5:12�am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote:
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Over 400 people lost their lives in Christmas Tree fire related
incidents last year. �In an attempt to stave off my annual Christmas
Tree safety speech I ask everyone to post this checklist on your
refrigerator door AND give one to each of your neighbors:


� �1. �Don't buy a Christmas Tree that is dry or dropping needles.
Check this by holding the end of a � branch while gently pulling your
hand over it. �Only a few of the needles should fall off.


� �2. �Request your Christmas Tree vendor to make a fresh cut
approximately one inch from the bottom to help enable your tree to
drink the water you provide it. �Make sure your tree stand holds
plenty of water and check it daily to make sure it doesn't run out.


� �3. � If your tree is wobbly redo the setup and be sure it is
centered in the stand and that the bolts or screws are tight.


� �4. � Don't position a Christmas Tree where it may hinder an
emergency exit. �Never place your tree within three feet of a furnace,
fireplace, or radiator. �Try to avoid using electrical chords that run
long distances by placing the tree near an outlet.


� �5. � Check your lights to make sure they are certified by a
recognized testing laboratory such as UL. �Replace any string of
lights that has broken or frayed areas. �Never use use electric lights
on a metal tree.


� �6. �Unplug your Christmas Tree before you leave or go to bed.


� �7. �If you use an artificial tree, make sure it is fire-retardant.


� �8. �When your Christmas Tree begins to drop needles, dispose of it.
Do not leave it in your garage or beside the house.


� �9. Closely supervise small children around the Christmas Tree.
Many tree decorations are breakable and can be swallowed.


Add one:

� Use the mini lights, and use strings of many lights not a few lights.

� A string of 24 lights for example puts 5 volts at each bulb.

� A string of 50 lights puts 2.4 volts at each bulb.

� The 50 light string will run dimmer - but the bulbs will run a lot
cooler and last a lot longer.

� The strings of "C4" I think they are which people used to use
quite a lot (ie: night light bulbs) run a LOT hotter at each bulb.


Those with pets need to be especially alert...

Use an especially sturdy stand and check its t... dogs may rub up
against trees, cats may attempt to climb trees.

Animals will drink the tree water so check it often and do not add
chemicals.

Animals may relieve themselves on or under trees.

Do not use tinsel if you have cats, they will swallow it.

Do not use any food as decorations or place edible gifts under trees.

Some holiday trees and plants are toxic to animals and humans, choose
wisely.

Be alert for animals chewing electrical wires.

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Jason wrote:

Over 400 people lost their lives in Christmas Tree fire related
incidents last year.

[....]

Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen,
and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are
dismayed at them.

Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth
a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman,
with the axe.

Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten
it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn31/christmas.htm
Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story

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In article ,
Jim wrote:

Jason wrote:

Over 400 people lost their lives in Christmas Tree fire related
incidents last year.

[....]

Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen,
and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are
dismayed at them.

Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth
a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman,
with the axe.

Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten
it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn31/christmas.htm
Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story

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B - Basic
I - Instruction
B - Before
L - Leaving
E - Earth


B- Being
I- Involved
B- Because
L-Life
E- Enjoys

E-Ever Greens
R-Relate
T-To
N-Nature
W-Wonder

Bill looking forward to Dec 21.

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William Wagner expounded:

Bill looking forward to Dec 21.


Moi aussi )
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Jim wrote:
Jason wrote:
Over 400 people lost their lives in Christmas Tree fire related
incidents last year.

[....]

Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen,
and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are
dismayed at them.

Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth
a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman,
with the axe.

Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten
it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn31/christmas.htm
Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story



Jer 10:5
They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be
borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do
evil, neither also is it in them to do good.



It won't kill you to put up a tree.
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Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
Jim wrote:
Jason wrote:
Over 400 people lost their lives in Christmas Tree fire related
incidents last year.

[....]

Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and
be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed
at them.

Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a
tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the
axe.

Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten
it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn31/christmas.htm
Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story



Jer 10:5
They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be
borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do
evil, neither also is it in them to do good.



It won't kill you to put up a tree.



Just to clarify on this point, it is not a tree that Jer 10:2-4 speaks
of but the cutting down of a tree and caving of said tree into an idol
figure.

Source data:

http://bible.cc/jeremiah/10-5.htm

Most reference of a scarecrow or pillar of turned work which can not
speak, meaning that the object would be of human form.

Continue on to 10:8 and you will clearly see statements of a wooden idol.

http://bible.cc/jeremiah/10-8.htm



Now, sure, the whole Christmas thing is a commercialized mess where it's
all about getting gifts... But I'm not a fan of contextual quoting.

I won't get into this any further as religious discussions are notorious
for starting huge arguments.. and wars for that matter.

Better things to do than die for a tree..
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Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

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Better things to do than die for a tree..


the really nice thing about it all is how one may be
given information however, they always have their own
God given freewill to do or react as they choose.
freedom, to live or die for a tree.

so, how's your garden this time of year?
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In article ,
Jim wrote:

Jason wrote:

Over 400 people lost their lives in Christmas Tree fire related
incidents last year.

[....]

Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen,
and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are
dismayed at them.

Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth
a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman,
with the axe.

Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten
it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn31/christmas.htm
Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story

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I - Instruction
B - Before
L - Leaving
E - Earth


My revelation says that you are a false prophet and only interested in
your own aggrandizement regardless of your ostentatious humility. You
are the dung in the meal of life. Merry Solstice.
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Jim wrote:
Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

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Better things to do than die for a tree..


the really nice thing about it all is how one may be
given information however, they always have their own
God given freewill to do or react as they choose.
freedom, to live or die for a tree.

so, how's your garden this time of year?


Oh just fine.. Leaves have almost all fallen from the Pecan tree and the
Oak is turning a nice dark brown.. I've still got mums that we picked up
at Lowes for .99/ea that I need to get in the ground..

Going to start raking leaves soon for leaf mold, plus overwinter piles
for on top of said mums..

So how about you and yours?
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Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Jim wrote:
Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

[....]
Better things to do than die for a tree..


the really nice thing about it all is how one may be
given information however, they always have their own
God given freewill to do or react as they choose.
freedom, to live or die for a tree.

so, how's your garden this time of year?


Oh just fine.. Leaves have almost all fallen from the Pecan tree and the
Oak is turning a nice dark brown..


saturday while in the forest collecting what will become
firewood the leaves were falling as if they were rain drops
in a lite but steady down pour. with the mixture of yellow
and red in the air it was a beautiful sight to pause and take
note of.


I've still got mums that we picked up
at Lowes for .99/ea that I need to get in the ground..


several years ago I discovered much to my delight how
mums benefit from lime applied during their being transferred
from their transport packaging into the ground.

Going to start raking leaves soon for leaf mold, plus overwinter piles
for on top of said mums..


might I suggest, if possible mulch the leaves with a mulching
mower. convert mulching mower into bagging mower, bag mulched
leaves and then pour the mulched leaves around the base of the
newly planted mums.



So how about you and yours?


dormant at this time. no fall cool weather crop this year.
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Jim wrote:
Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Jim wrote:
Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
[....]
Better things to do than die for a tree..
the really nice thing about it all is how one may be
given information however, they always have their own
God given freewill to do or react as they choose.
freedom, to live or die for a tree.

so, how's your garden this time of year?

Oh just fine.. Leaves have almost all fallen from the Pecan tree and the
Oak is turning a nice dark brown..


saturday while in the forest collecting what will become
firewood the leaves were falling as if they were rain drops
in a lite but steady down pour. with the mixture of yellow
and red in the air it was a beautiful sight to pause and take
note of.


Bet that was a picture perfect moment.. Get a camera next time..

I used to live in PA near Ligonier which is right up in the mountain
range.. Remember as a kid making trips to see the leaves & always
stopping by to get some fresh maple candy.. Also always stopped by a
spring that came out of the side of the mountain to get fresh drinking
water.


I've still got mums that we picked up
at Lowes for .99/ea that I need to get in the ground..


several years ago I discovered much to my delight how
mums benefit from lime applied during their being transferred
from their transport packaging into the ground.


Really.. I'll have to give that a try.. Just a cup or so sprinkled in
the hole?


Going to start raking leaves soon for leaf mold, plus overwinter piles
for on top of said mums..


might I suggest, if possible mulch the leaves with a mulching
mower. convert mulching mower into bagging mower, bag mulched
leaves and then pour the mulched leaves around the base of the
newly planted mums.


That's a good suggestion... Actually what I planned on doing instead of
raking some sections of the yard. Just putting the mower at the highest
setting and installing the bag to catch it all..

Really saves time on having to wait for them to naturally break down and
the more compact pile makes a great insulator.



So how about you and yours?


dormant at this time. no fall cool weather crop this year.

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