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I asked not because of disease, but because I know NOTHING about whether
his tree is one that is found growing wild in Florida, and if so, whether
it grows WELL, or just sort of eeks out a sad existence. My only exposure
to dogwoods is in NY, and the ones that grow beautifully aren't in the
middle of a lawn. They're in the woods, under bigger trees, in dappled
sunlight with a nice thick layer of duff on the forest floor.


I am just shaking my head yes. from anything I have ever read or heard,
Joe, it seams they require the conditions you mentioned. I'll bet they also
do well with nurse logs.


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I will take some pictures of buds on Cornus florida and you can let us know
if they match yours. I have some pictures now but they are of buds just
forming. They would look different than that now. Maybe I will scan some
tomorrow.


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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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I asked not because of disease, but because I know NOTHING about whether
his tree is one that is found growing wild in Florida, and if so, whether
it grows WELL, or just sort of eeks out a sad existence. My only exposure
to dogwoods is in NY, and the ones that grow beautifully aren't in the
middle of a lawn. They're in the woods, under bigger trees, in dappled
sunlight with a nice thick layer of duff on the forest floor.


I am just shaking my head yes. from anything I have ever read or heard,
Joe, it seams they require the conditions you mentioned. I'll bet they
also do well with nurse logs.



No idea. But, springtime around here is amazing in certain parks. The
dogwoods and rhododendrons are astoundingly gorgeous.


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On Dec 26, 7:10 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

I wonder if Patrick has ever seen dogwoods growing in their natural habitat,
where they really rock & roll.


Does being in/around the Atlanta [GA] area in the springtime count?

As for the dogwoods in my yard, yes, I realize dogwoods prefer to be
an understory tree. That said, the two I planted in my yard 5 years
ago [in near full sun], have grown from 5-foot tall to nearly 20 and
were full of flowers last spring and had TONS of red berries on them
this last fall -- the mockingbirds were loving them! So they are
hardly struggling to survive. I followed those two up with two more 2
years ago that are also in near full sun -- both have thrived -- nice
dark green foliage in the summer and lots of new branches. This past
year I planted two more. The first one is doing okay but the second
is the one that has the sunscald. Perhaps it's a soil issue. They're
planted in the front yard, whereas the other 4 are in my backyard.

What's the consensus? Chop it down and start over, or wait and see if
it survives?

Patrick



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On Dec 26, 7:10 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

I wonder if Patrick has ever seen dogwoods growing in their natural
habitat,
where they really rock & roll.


Does being in/around the Atlanta [GA] area in the springtime count?

As for the dogwoods in my yard, yes, I realize dogwoods prefer to be
an understory tree. That said, the two I planted in my yard 5 years
ago [in near full sun], have grown from 5-foot tall to nearly 20 and
were full of flowers last spring and had TONS of red berries on them
this last fall -- the mockingbirds were loving them! So they are
hardly struggling to survive. I followed those two up with two more 2
years ago that are also in near full sun -- both have thrived -- nice
dark green foliage in the summer and lots of new branches. This past
year I planted two more. The first one is doing okay but the second
is the one that has the sunscald. Perhaps it's a soil issue. They're
planted in the front yard, whereas the other 4 are in my backyard.

What's the consensus? Chop it down and start over, or wait and see if
it survives?

Patrick



The one with the problem - how far is it from the nearest concrete or
blacktop sidewalk, patio, or driveway, or a nearby building?




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On Dec 26, 7:10 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


I wonder if Patrick has ever seen dogwoods growing in their natural
habitat,
where they really rock & roll.


Does being in/around the Atlanta [GA] area in the springtime count?


As for the dogwoods in my yard, yes, I realize dogwoods prefer to be
an understory tree. That said, the two I planted in my yard 5 years
ago [in near full sun], have grown from 5-foot tall to nearly 20 and
were full of flowers last spring and had TONS of red berries on them
this last fall -- the mockingbirds were loving them! So they are
hardly struggling to survive. I followed those two up with two more 2
years ago that are also in near full sun -- both have thrived -- nice
dark green foliage in the summer and lots of new branches. This past
year I planted two more. The first one is doing okay but the second
is the one that has the sunscald. Perhaps it's a soil issue. They're
planted in the front yard, whereas the other 4 are in my backyard.


What's the consensus? Chop it down and start over, or wait and see if
it survives?


The one with the problem - how far is it from the nearest concrete or
blacktop sidewalk, patio, or driveway, or a nearby building?


It's in the side of my front yard. The nearest pavement is about 15
feet away, building about 20. Air circulation in the area is good.

Patrick
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Here are some unique features of Cornus florida They are buds.

http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...nus/index.html


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What's the consensus? Chop it down and start over, or wait and see if
it survives?

Patrick



Without even seeing pictures of, let alone touching, the tree or trees, it
would be very unprofessional to condem a tree without even seeing the tree.


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Here are some unique features of Cornus florida They are buds.



Seriously? Those are called buds?


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Its a pretty good ID feature.


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Here are some unique features of Cornus florida They are buds.



Seriously? Those are called buds?





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Here are some unique features of Cornus florida They are buds.



Seriously? Those are called buds?



Its a pretty good ID feature.





Amazing. I always called them "buds". Now, you're telling me they're called
"buds". This is why it's worthwhile to consult a tree shmexpert. Why did I
wait so long?


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What are you talking about. The person could not be sure what the tree was.
He can now look at the buds I posted and see if they match his tree. Why
are you so sarcastic.


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Here are some unique features of Cornus florida They are buds.


Seriously? Those are called buds?



Its a pretty good ID feature.





Amazing. I always called them "buds". Now, you're telling me they're
called "buds". This is why it's worthwhile to consult a tree shmexpert.
Why did I wait so long?



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joe wrote
OK. And, what was the full Latin name of the dogwood you bought? Do you
still have the tag?



They can see if he has a Cornus florida by checking the buds to see if they
match.

http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...nus/index.html


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It's in the side of my front yard. The nearest pavement is about 15
feet away, building about 20. Air circulation in the area is good.

Patrick


Patrick you still did not possitive ID them as Cornus florida. Do you have
two types of buds on your tree that looks like this?

http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...nus/index.html


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On Dec 28, 9:14 am, "symplastless" wrote:

It's in the side of my front yard. The nearest pavement is about 15
feet away, building about 20. Air circulation in the area is good.


Patrick you still did not possitive ID them as Cornus florida. Do you have
two types of buds on your tree that looks like this?


http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...wood_cornus/in...


Yes, that is it. I even found the original information tag that was
attached to the tree.

Cornus florida rubra

With our strange winter, this tree currently has a flower nearly fully
formed and has many buds already cracked open.

Patrick
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