John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

Pulling out of Iraq without stabilizing
the area is one of the worst things we can do.

Running from Vietnam wasn't so bad. ****ed off a lot of or Vietnamese
supporters but it was good for America because otherwise we would have
stayed and bled even more lives away.

Obviously, there is a political faction in Iraq that is using American
muscle for their own ends. Let's cut the crap.

It's time to go home.
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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symplastless wrote:
I faxed many docs regarding forest health to most senators. John
McCain is one who wrote me a positive response asking for more data. What
is the matter with that? Forest health is a major concern of
people logging and people opposed to logging federal public land. When I
say logging I want to be absolutely care what I mean:

I am a Obama supporter because of his score card for 2006 was a 100%
at www.lcv.org. Hillary was only 79%. McCain was a 29% so I guess
you are write, maybe we can do better. I.e., for clean air and clean
water for our children and grand children.

He did seem interested in the forest health issues.

Tree hugger!

Technology can provide us with all the clean air and clean water we'll
ever need. You'll be able to buy it by the bottle almost anywhere.


Actually I am a tree toucher. I tend to make decisions out of tree biology.
If that makes me a hugger than I am a hugger.
No I am a tree kisser! Not hugger!
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/nfpra/kissers.html


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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Tony Hwang wrote:


Tree hugger!

Technology can provide us with all the clean air and clean water
we'll ever need. You'll be able to buy it by the bottle almost
anywhere.
Hmm,
Technology needs clean air and water to begin with. Are you gonna feed
plants, fish, birds, animals bottled water?
If majority is thinking like you, mankind is doomed. It's matter of
time. Good thing you did not say, "God will take care of everyting"

With enough coal-fired power plants, we can distill unlimited amounts of
water and generate Oxygen by electrolysis.

I don't see a problem.

What about soil?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

PaPaPeng wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:13:44 GMT, aemeijers wrote:

nick hull wrote:
In article ,
"Bob" wrote:

election or vote third party. I know know who will win the
Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our
next
president.
Personally, I couldn't agree more - As a Republican who first voted
for Ike in 1956, I will not vote for McCain. Won't vote Libertarian
because of their stance on Iraq. Will probably skip voting for a
prez for the first time in my life.
Bob-tx
I really hate to say this, but a Democrat (even Hillary!) might be
better than McCain for the 2nd amendment. The NRA will fight a
democratic president tooth and nail, but would compromise our rights
away with a republican ;(
Even if Hillary 'Lady Macbeth' Clinton WAS qualified, I wouldn't vote
for her. 2 families have held the White House for 20 years- time for
somebody else. It isn't supposed to be an inherited office, by blood or
marriage.

(BTW- I have NO trouble with a woman for POTUS- just not THAT woman.)

aem sends...


I am not American so we live with whomever you elect as President.
But please do consider the message you are sending to Americans and to
the rest of the world by not voting. If the American President takes
office on a minority popular vote, of say 30 percent turnout of
eligible voters, then he or she does not have a mandate to do
anything. No mandate to change the direction America is on. No
credibility on the world stage that he or she has the support of the
people.

To vote is a very important civic duty.

Oh, I'll vote- just not for Hillary. I'll probably have to hold my nose,
but I'll vote. I'm hoping McCain gets nominated- I don't agree with a
lot of his positions, but at least he is a grownup, and not a socialist.

aem sends...

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

symplastless wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
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symplastless wrote:
snip
Technology can provide us with all the clean air and clean water we'll
ever need. You'll be able to buy it by the bottle almost anywhere.


Actually I am a tree toucher. I tend to make decisions out of tree biology.
If that makes me a hugger than I am a hugger.
No I am a tree kisser! Not hugger!
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/nfpra/kissers.html



I'm no tree expert, but I like most trees better than I like most people.

aem sends....

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

"aemeijers" wrote in message
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symplastless wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
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symplastless wrote:
snip
Technology can provide us with all the clean air and clean water we'll
ever need. You'll be able to buy it by the bottle almost anywhere.


Actually I am a tree toucher. I tend to make decisions out of tree
biology. If that makes me a hugger than I am a hugger.
No I am a tree kisser! Not hugger!
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/nfpra/kissers.html



I'm no tree expert, but I like most trees better than I like most people.

aem sends....

What's you favorite tree?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

symplastless wrote:
"aemeijers" wrote in message
...
symplastless wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
symplastless wrote:
snip
Technology can provide us with all the clean air and clean water we'll
ever need. You'll be able to buy it by the bottle almost anywhere.

Actually I am a tree toucher. I tend to make decisions out of tree
biology. If that makes me a hugger than I am a hugger.
No I am a tree kisser! Not hugger!
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/nfpra/kissers.html


I'm no tree expert, but I like most trees better than I like most people.

aem sends....

What's you favorite tree?


I don't even know how to answer that. I'm not fussy on species, as long
as they are healthy. I get a little PO'd at the branches that the 60+
foot maple in my back yard keeps dropping- one of these days, one of
them is bound to hit the house. I was utterly blown away driving
through a patch of sequoia on the road up to that famous mountain near
Portland Oregon- I'd love to have a chance to visit there in warmer
weather some time, instead of a lightning side trip for dinner while on
a business trip. But I find hanging out in a tall-canopy forest for an
hour, is good for a least a 20-point drop in BP for the rest of the day,
as long as nothing sets off my allergies, and none of the fauna dines on me.

The 100+ year old building I work in used to have dozens of mature
deciduous trees around it, that provided lots of shade to sit, and park
under. Building management has found excuses to remove most of them, and
replace a few with small evergreens that will never get over 20 feet.
Better than nothing, I guess, but a little boring. IMHO, the desire to
simplfy mowing and avoid raking should not be the criteria for choosing
trees. That, and they (from casual non-expert inspection) all seem to be
the same species. If a bug ever comes around, it'll be looking pretty
brown around there.

aem sends...

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

If voting was able to make effective change of any type it would be
made criminal and illegal overnight.
Votes are rigged in every democracy to ensure money and power
proliferates at the expense of the masses.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

In article ,
"symplastless" wrote:



What's you favorite tree?

Usenet mandatory Monty Python reference

The Larch

/Usenet mandatory Monty Python reference

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

You may be correct, but the religious right candidate would seem superior to
the athiest wrong.

Might seem that way to the Knights of Columbus, not to anyone else,
though. Fewer and fewer believe in the "churches" of today, since they
all seem so driven by motives baser than religion or salvation. Their
concerns are the rigid control of others, profit, profit, profit, and
not everlasting life but rather everlasting political power. There may
be some pure churches left, but it is no longer worth the effort to
distinguish between them, since they are the laughingstock of the
American religious mainstream.

Politically active, contemporary American churches-cum-businesses make
legalized late term abortion on demand look appealingly nostalgic. I
believe anti-evolutionist Mike Huckabee's pending crushing campaign
defeats will make that crystal clear even to those blind of "faith".
That is MY prayer, anyway.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

"aemeijers" wrote in message
...
symplastless wrote:
"aemeijers" wrote in message
...
symplastless wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
symplastless wrote:
snip
Technology can provide us with all the clean air and clean water we'll
ever need. You'll be able to buy it by the bottle almost anywhere.

Actually I am a tree toucher. I tend to make decisions out of tree
biology. If that makes me a hugger than I am a hugger.
No I am a tree kisser! Not hugger!
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/nfpra/kissers.html


I'm no tree expert, but I like most trees better than I like most
people.

aem sends....

What's you favorite tree?


I don't even know how to answer that. I'm not fussy on species, as long as
they are healthy.

I like forest where all of the ecological stages of trees are of value.
Each ecological stage is associated with unique groups of organisms and
microorganisms.
Check out the first two articles at this site:
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...get/index.html

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
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In article ,
"symplastless" wrote:



What's you favorite tree?

Usenet mandatory Monty Python reference

The Larch

/Usenet mandatory Monty Python reference

Unique tree. A deciduous conifer. Other than ginkgo that's the only
deciduous conifer I know of.

Of course most conifers do shed their foliage, just not all at once.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Forester & Tree Expert
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

Billy wrote:

Paraphrasing Jim Hightower, "If God wanted us to vote, she would have
given us candidates.", CANDIDATES, not PACs and corporate bribes. As
long as the corporations control the campaign money and the media in
the US, there will be no elections based on merit.

A common misunderstanding, also known by the name of "special interests," or
"lobbyists."

"Special interests" act as a separation of power force against the ignorant,
unwashed masses. On the one side you have the "people" with a mob mentality.
They are, collectively, as dumb as a crate of anvils, but they can vote. On
the other side, you have the PACs, corporations, special interests, and
various influence peddlers. They can't vote, but do have money.

It averages out, unless one side or the other obtains an unfair advantage,
such as having dead people vote in Chicago or limiting the power of the
elite such as with McCain-Feingold.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

Snowbound wrote:
In article , CJT
wrote:

How long until Limbaugh endorses Clinton?

That might be the smartest move the neocons could make... Hillary
would probably spontaneously self-immolate if she thought for one
moment that he was sincere in his endorsement. Of course, Limbaugh is
too fake to pull off any sincerity, so I guess it's a moot point.

Psst. Karl Rove is freelancing these days.

John McCain, liar and liberal punk
 

Billy wrote:

Running from Vietnam wasn't so bad. ****ed off a lot of or Vietnamese
supporters but it was good for America because otherwise we would have
stayed and bled even more lives away.

Obviously, there is a political faction in Iraq that is using American
muscle for their own ends. Let's cut the crap.

It's time to go home.

Why? Because of American lives lost?

Not a good reason. The Americans that are there are volunteers and
recognized that their life or limb might be lost. They signed up in spite of
that possibility. In fact, 85% of those who've served in Iraq or Afghanistan
have re-enlisted at the first opportunity.

To them, it's the job they want to do. Just like a firefighter or policeman
understands the risks in his chosen profession, our warrior class accepts
similar risks.

To our warriors, the chance to kill people and blow things up is their
life's work. Sitting around at Fort ********, Louisiana just won't cut it.
Look, who would ever become a fireman if there was no or little chance of
fighting a fire? Likewise, who would ever become a soldier if there were no
wars.

No, we need a war every ten or fifteen years just to keep the tip of the
spear sharp and encourage new recruits.

As a corollary, where had you rather have 180,000 people who want to kill?
There, or back here?