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John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message ... In article , "symplastless" wrote: What's you favorite tree? Usenet mandatory Monty Python reference The Larch /Usenet mandatory Monty Python reference Unique tree. A deciduous conifer. Other than ginkgo that's the only deciduous conifer I know of. There's also the dawn redwood (Metasequoia) and the bald cypress. Back to a gardening subject, who would have thunk. Paulo |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
Billy wrote: In article , sherwindu wrote: Comics Momma WebTV wrote: He McCain is a lefty pinko. Did not fight in viet nam, helped and assisted the viet cong by turning himself in and being a prisoner. OK, Mr. brave guy. What wars did you fight in? What medals did you get? I think this is big talk from someone who has never been in battle. Real patriot would not have surrendered. That's what the Nazi SS did. We had to kill every one of the *******s. Pinkos surrender. My son comic would not have surrendered, he would hide under his bed like during this war. I see somebody left the door open. Thanks for the weirdoes "Doo", not that a fascist, zionist pig would know any better. Billy Look what just crawled out from under a rock! |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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"HeyBub" wrote: Billy wrote: Running from Vietnam wasn't so bad. ****ed off a lot of or Vietnamese supporters but it was good for America because otherwise we would have stayed and bled even more lives away. Obviously, there is a political faction in Iraq that is using American muscle for their own ends. Let's cut the crap. It's time to go home. Why? Because of American lives lost? Not a good reason. The Americans that are there are volunteers and recognized that their life or limb might be lost. They signed up in spite of that possibility. In fact, 85% of those who've served in Iraq or Afghanistan have re-enlisted at the first opportunity. To them, it's the job they want to do. Just like a firefighter or policeman understands the risks in his chosen profession, our warrior class accepts similar risks. To our warriors, the chance to kill people and blow things up is their life's work. Sitting around at Fort ********, Louisiana just won't cut it. Look, who would ever become a fireman if there was no or little chance of fighting a fire? Likewise, who would ever become a soldier if there were no wars. No, we need a war every ten or fifteen years just to keep the tip of the spear sharp and encourage new recruits. As a corollary, where had you rather have 180,000 people who want to kill? There, or back here? Re-enliste? Some just kill them selves. Some leave the country when their tour is extended. Most re-enlist, not because they believe in the fight but because their buddies, who caught their backs, are still there and they feel guilty about being out, when their friends are still in the meat-grinder. American lives lost? Are you crazy? Each one of them had a name. Each one of them had a mother and a father who loved them. Each one of them are patriots who answered the call of their country. How did they know that the commander in chief was a jive-ass, draft-dodging, mother-****er who was just going to be helping himself, his daddy, and his friends to make a little money. Welcome to the New American Century. All Profit, All the Time. Hell, the ones who got killed are the lucky ones. It's the other 90% who got broke and are coming home with post-traumatic stress disorder, who are going to suffer. And you want to put a happy face on it? Jesus Christ man, the troops did what they were told. They went to Bagdad and occupied the Ministry of Oil and left the munition dumps unprotected. The people of Bagdad were happy to see us. They wanted to thank us. But we treated them like dirt and kicked them in the teeth. ---------- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...age-grows-afte r-fallujah-massacre-537969.html Iraqi rage grows after Fallujah massacre By Phil Reeves in Fallujah Sunday, 4 May 2003 Nearly a week after troops from the 82nd Airborne Division randomly opened fire on a crowd of demonstrators here, prompting the US military to announce an inquiry, commanders have yet to speak to the doctors who counted the bodies. Nor, by late yesterday, had US commanders been to the home of a 13-year-old boy who was among the dead, even though it is located less than a mile from the main American base in Fallujah, a conservative Sunni town 35 miles west of Baghdad. The Americans' conduct over the Fallujah affair * and their highly implausible version of events * has compounded the anger in Iraq over the killings, in which 13 people died after being hit by a hail of US bullets outside a school which the troops were occupying. It combines all the worst elements of the occupation: panicky troops firing at Iraqis instead of seeking to engage with them or understand their circumstances, then insisting that local people have no cause for anger. --------- Iraqis, in general, respected the US until "W" made them mad enough to strap a bomb to their backs, may he burn in Hell. If arabs want to kill westerners now, it's because "W" pushed until they pushed back. "W" needed a war on terror so that the military-industrial complex could keep on socking it away. Or was Eisenhower, a real soldier, just full of crap? American G.I.s are doing the honorable thing. The Iraqi resistance is doing the honorable thing. And "W"? Like Iran 1953, "W" is backing the wackos to keep the pot boiling. We arm both the Sunni and Shia militias. Wake up. You are being played for a chump. -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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Doobie Keebler wrote: On Jan 31, 5:10 am, wrote: ... Michelle Malkin reports... You're joking, right? What's the punchline? Punhchline or not, Micelle Malkin surely appears to me to be a joke by being a party line follower for the party line that I see her putting her thought into following. I consider even Christine Flowers to produce more independent thought than Michelle Malkin! - Don Klipstein ) |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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sherwindu wrote: Billy wrote: In article , sherwindu wrote: Comics Momma WebTV wrote: He McCain is a lefty pinko. Did not fight in viet nam, helped and assisted the viet cong by turning himself in and being a prisoner. OK, Mr. brave guy. What wars did you fight in? What medals did you get? I think this is big talk from someone who has never been in battle. Real patriot would not have surrendered. That's what the Nazi SS did. We had to kill every one of the *******s. Pinkos surrender. My son comic would not have surrendered, he would hide under his bed like during this war. I see somebody left the door open. Thanks for the weirdoes "Doo", not that a fascist, zionist pig would know any better. Billy Look what just crawled out from under a rock! You must be looking in a mirror, Doo. -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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Shawn Hirn wrote: In article , Doobie Keebler wrote: On Jan 31, 2:44 pm, " wrote: John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years... This is why McCain is not electable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1 "100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008. Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war. Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag, so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War. There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/ Obama I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this election or vote third party. I know know who will win the Democratic nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our next president. ... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just to get things back close to normal. I doubt anyone who is now or ever was a front-runner for the current presidential election is going to win the job by honestly promising to fix what is now broken. I see winning the job by either promising to keep most broken things broken or by being expected to break promises to fix what is broken. I sorely wish that American voters would change this state! - Don Klipstein ) |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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CJT wrote: ... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just to get things back close to normal. If you're not with us, you're on the side of the terrorists. I hope this is irony or some other class of humor! Bush II got re-elected by being against the "terrorists" but has gone through over 7 years, and over 6 of those after "9/11", without capturing Osama bin Laden either dead or alive! - Don Klipstein ) |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
Don Klipstein wrote:
In article , HeyBub wrote: CJT wrote: ... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just to get things back close to normal. If you're not with us, you're on the side of the terrorists. I hope this is irony or some other class of humor! Bush II got re-elected by being against the "terrorists" but has gone through over 7 years, and over 6 of those after "9/11", without capturing Osama bin Laden either dead or alive! He has however ensured that there hasnt been another terrorist obscenity in the US since 9/11 |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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John McCain, liar and liberal punk
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John McCain, liar and liberal punk
Don Klipstein wrote:
In article , CJT wrote: Shawn Hirn wrote: In article , Doobie Keebler wrote: On Jan 31, 2:44 pm, " wrote: John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years... This is why McCain is not electable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1 "100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008. Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war. Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag, so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War. There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/ Obama I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this election or vote third party. I know know who will win the Democratic nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our next president. ... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just to get things back close to normal. I doubt anyone who is now or ever was a front-runner for the current presidential election is going to win the job by honestly promising to fix what is now broken. I see winning the job by either promising to keep most broken things broken or by being expected to break promises to fix what is broken. I sorely wish that American voters would change this state! - Don Klipstein ) A good start would be admitting that there's more wrong than a couple minor issues and that there is stuff that's broken that needs fixed... It's like there's this 400 lb. gorilla in the room and both parties are ignoring it... debt, war, recession, etc. etc. etc... nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
Don Klipstein wrote:
In article , HeyBub wrote: CJT wrote: ... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just to get things back close to normal. If you're not with us, you're on the side of the terrorists. I hope this is irony or some other class of humor! Bush II got re-elected by being against the "terrorists" but has gone through over 7 years, and over 6 of those after "9/11", without capturing Osama bin Laden either dead or alive! Yeah, there's that. It took the FBI five years to locate Eric Rudolph, despite a high reward being offered. As we all know, the hills and caves of North Carolina make it difficult to track a vagabond on foot. |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
Billy wrote:
It's time to go home. Why? Because of American lives lost? Not a good reason. The Americans that are there are volunteers and recognized that their life or limb might be lost. They signed up in spite of that possibility. In fact, 85% of those who've served in Iraq or Afghanistan have re-enlisted at the first opportunity. To them, it's the job they want to do. Just like a firefighter or policeman understands the risks in his chosen profession, our warrior class accepts similar risks. To our warriors, the chance to kill people and blow things up is their life's work. Sitting around at Fort ********, Louisiana just won't cut it. Look, who would ever become a fireman if there was no or little chance of fighting a fire? Likewise, who would ever become a soldier if there were no wars. No, we need a war every ten or fifteen years just to keep the tip of the spear sharp and encourage new recruits. As a corollary, where had you rather have 180,000 people who want to kill? There, or back here? Re-enliste? Some just kill them selves. Some leave the country when their tour is extended. Most re-enlist, not because they believe in the fight but because their buddies, who caught their backs, are still there and they feel guilty about being out, when their friends are still in the meat-grinder. Right. Of the 15% who don't re-enlist, some were casualties, some retire, some move on to other endeavors, some are pussy-whipped by whining wives or sweethearts. American lives lost? Are you crazy? Each one of them had a name. Each one of them had a mother and a father who loved them. Each one of them are patriots who answered the call of their country. How did they know that the commander in chief was a jive-ass, draft-dodging, mother-****er who was just going to be helping himself, his daddy, and his friends to make a little money. What difference does the president make in their decision? As for being a draft-dodger, if the worst you can say about Bush is, that in time of war, he joined the National Guard... Welcome to the New American Century. All Profit, All the Time. Proft is good. Hell, the ones who got killed are the lucky ones. It's the other 90% who got broke and are coming home with post-traumatic stress disorder, who are going to suffer. Regrettably, you're correct. We'll do the best we can to provide for them, but, ultimately, that was the choice they made. And you want to put a happy face on it? Jesus Christ man, the troops did what they were told. They went to Bagdad and occupied the Ministry of Oil and left the munition dumps unprotected. Well, yeah. But they did kill a great number of terrorists and potential terrorists. The people of Bagdad were happy to see us. They wanted to thank us. But we treated them like dirt and kicked them in the teeth. ---------- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...age-grows-afte r-fallujah-massacre-537969.html Iraqi rage grows after Fallujah massacre By Phil Reeves in Fallujah Sunday, 4 May 2003 Nearly a week after troops from the 82nd Airborne Division randomly opened fire on a crowd of demonstrators here, prompting the US military to announce an inquiry, commanders have yet to speak to the doctors who counted the bodies. [...] Potential terrorists. Iraqis, in general, respected the US until "W" made them mad enough to strap a bomb to their backs, may he burn in Hell. If arabs want to kill westerners now, it's because "W" pushed until they pushed back. "W" needed a war on terror so that the military-industrial complex could keep on socking it away. Or was Eisenhower, a real soldier, just full of crap? Uh, who "pushed" the Arabs into the World Trade Center? Eisenhower, according to his former superior, Douglas McArthur, "...would make an adequate staff officer." American G.I.s are doing the honorable thing. The Iraqi resistance is doing the honorable thing. And "W"? Like Iran 1953, "W" is backing the wackos to keep the pot boiling. We arm both the Sunni and Shia militias. There is no "Iraqi Resistance." Virtually every one (that we have killed or know about) of the bombers, insurgents, and leaders of such in Iraq are not from Iraq. Except for Sadaam, of course. Wake up. You are being played for a chump. I'm a volunteer. I accept the risks. |
John McCain, liar and liberal punk
Kurt Ullman writes:
In article , (Don Klipstein) wrote: I hope this is irony or some other class of humor! Bush II got re-elected by being against the "terrorists" but has gone through over 7 years, and over 6 of those after "9/11", without capturing Osama bin Laden either dead or alive! The horror! Of course the fact that there hasn't been a (successful) attempt on US soil since then is all outweighed by not finding OBL. Come on guys. There's no need for an attack on US soil. Plenty of American's right there in the middle east as easy targets. Count total American losses and then figure out how well this is working. It's not working, whether you count losses as bodies or losses as dollars. In fact it's a total disaster. |
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