Hardly anybody posting. Is it the change in seasons? The advent of
(sob) the early dark? Or -- the elections?

I am so tense, I feel it affecting me not only psychologically, but
perhaps even physically.

If I were a praying person, I would pray that my beloved country
doesn't fall back into the hands of the villains who
have been running it into the ground for more than the last 8 years.

In article
,
Artful Dodger wrote:

Hardly anybody posting. Is it the change in seasons? The advent of
(sob) the early dark? Or -- the elections?

I am so tense, I feel it affecting me not only psychologically, but
perhaps even physically.

If I were a praying person, I would pray that my beloved country
doesn't fall back into the hands of the villains who
have been running it into the ground for more than the last 8 years.

Take a look at Obie almost 40 years latter.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1...for-obam_n_137
214.html

I don¹t know about you but we are gearing up for the holidays. Use to
be an easy task but kids are all about with different folks. A month
away (Thanksgiving) but things we did in two days takes longer. Hear a
leg of lamb may be about but the traditionalists insist on some turkey.

Bill thinking about anemones for next year as our current just start
to bloom.

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Bill wrote:
In article
,
Artful Dodger wrote:

Hardly anybody posting. Is it the change in seasons? The advent of
(sob) the early dark? Or -- the elections?

I am so tense, I feel it affecting me not only psychologically, but
perhaps even physically.

If I were a praying person, I would pray that my beloved country
doesn't fall back into the hands of the villains who
have been running it into the ground for more than the last 8 years.

Take a look at Obie almost 40 years latter.

FYI Ron Howard screwed us on Imagine stock. Now he will screw us with
Obammy.

Vote for Obama is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

On Oct 24, 3:04*pm, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Bill wrote:
In article
,
*Artful Dodger wrote:

Hardly anybody posting. *Is it the change in seasons? *The advent of
(sob) the early dark? *Or -- the elections?

I am so tense, I feel it affecting me not only psychologically, but
perhaps even physically.

If I were a praying person, I would pray that my beloved country
doesn't fall back into the hands of the villains who
have been running it into the ground for more than the last 8 years.

* Take a look at Obie almost 40 years latter.

FYI Ron Howard screwed us on Imagine stock. *Now he will screw us with
Obammy.

Vote for Obama is cutting off your nose to spite your face.-


Your boy McCain must be thrilled with the current American recession
and
world-wide crash, brought on by the pirates who ran their
UNREGULATED Wall Street games. While they got rich, the scene was
set for the crash which has screwed people out of their homes, their
retirement money,
the old and sick and children put out in the street,
while the Wall Street execs collect their gazillion-dollar bonuses
for ruining
the institutions they were leading. Un-effing-believable chutzpah!

McCain (until his recent flip-flop conversion to "change" -- slogan he
swiped from
Obama) voted consistently with Bush in favor of Wall Street, against
Main Street.

Do a little Web search and send me $100 -- no, make that $1,000 --
for every time McCain voted AGAINST regulation! He voted to repeal
the Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial banks from
investment banks. The UNREGULATED investment banks then
went on a crazed spree which made their execs and traders
billions on over-leveraged transactions -- until the bubble burst.

McCain voted for the Bush tax cuts for the top 1%, and voted against
regulation of the capital markets.
Now, suddenly, he and the moose-skinner are hollering for government
intervention.
It would be pathetic if it weren't so dangerous.

I hope people understand enough about how we got to this point
to NOT sign up for Bush III, but instead put in a calm, cool,
thoughtful, WELL-EDUCATED candidate rather than a reckless.
unstable, immature Daddy's boy who boozed and partied his way through
the Naval Academy . He graduated fifth from the bottom of his
class, and only got into the Academy because his father and
grandfather
were admirals. Any other Naval who crashed ONE plane,
let along five -- one of them from stunt flying -- would have been
out on his --- the FIRST time. But Daddy always pulled strings to get
around regulations.

It's so weirdly like the Bush saga -- rich kid with serious father
conflicts --
except that McCain wasn't a draft-dodger, just an incompetent pilot.


McCain is a 100% phony. Only he's white, which is all
some people care about.




This a reckless, unstable, dangerous man. Check out what his Vietnam
vets think of him. Check out what even the non-crazy Republicans
think of him!
Scandalous the way he picked the hockey mom after an hour's
conversation,
WITHOUT running an FBI check. His campaign said they did; the FBI
said they most certainly were NEVER asked to do the usual for an
important candidate. That poor old man is so desperate, he says
something contradictory every five minutes. Check out the article
in Rolling Stone last month -- a devastating indictment of McCain
from the mouths of those who knew him best.

And more thing:
Many soldiers suffered as POWs in Vietnam. But only ONE used his
experience as a POW to methodically build a false image of himself for
political
purposes. The others went quietly home and never spoke of their
ordeal,
even to their friends and family. McCain is a deeply immoral creature
of expediency.

In article ,
Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Bill wrote:
In article
,
Artful Dodger wrote:

Hardly anybody posting. Is it the change in seasons? The advent of
(sob) the early dark? Or -- the elections?

I am so tense, I feel it affecting me not only psychologically, but
perhaps even physically.

If I were a praying person, I would pray that my beloved country
doesn't fall back into the hands of the villains who
have been running it into the ground for more than the last 8 years.

Take a look at Obie almost 40 years latter.

FYI Ron Howard screwed us on Imagine stock. Now he will screw us with
Obammy.

Vote for Obama is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

You want four more years of a Republican administration? Man, you're a
glutton for punishment.
Bush ran as a smaller government, free market candidate. He has
increased the size of government by turning America into a police state.
The housing bubble has burst but the security bubble grows.
After his administration "took" office he had an energy summit that
didn't invite any public advocacy groups. Only energy groups were
invited like Enron and his buddy, "Kenny boy". Next thing you knew was
Kenny boy was scamming California on electricity purchases. Then Kenny
boy was encouraging his workers to invest in Enron stock. Bush with drew
from the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty ad refused the Kyoto Protocol.
Then Bush got us into a vanity war with Iraq, based if you can believe
him, on the journalism of Judith Miller, who was being fed information
by "Scooter Libby" (Cheney's aid). How many people have died or have
been scarred by Bush's grab for Iraq's oil? After hurricane Katrina,
FEMA didn't try to get New Orleans's residents back into their homes but
gave carte blanche to real estate developers like Donald Trumph. He
closed public schools and fired their teachers in order to create a
private voucher school system which has failed. He has done away with
the eight hundred year old tradition of habeas corpus, if you are
designated by him to be an "illegal combatant". Imprisoned in an
undisclosed prison without legal counsel. His Secretary of the Treasury
Henry Paulson, "in 2004, at the request of the major Wall Street
investment houses, including Goldman Sachs, then headed by Paulson, the
U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission agreed unanimously to release
the major investment houses from the net capital rule, the requirement
that their brokerages hold reserve capital that limited their leverage
and risk exposure."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Paulson
Now Paulson controls $700 BILLION of tax payers money to dole out as he
sees fit with no government oversight.

It will be a generation, at least before our country recovers from the
last eight years of Bush Kleptocracy and you want more?

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...stiglitz200811
by the former Senior Vice President and Chief Economist of the World
Bank, Joseph Stiglitz.

Maybe you just identify with McCain because he graduated 894 out of a
class of 899.
--

Billy
Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

Vote for Obama is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

You want four more years of a Republican administration? Man, you're a
glutton for punishment.
snip

Yes. Because what Obama would do to this country scares me to death.
Regardless of what Bush has done, Obama will do worse. Can you say
"Socialism"?

"Zoot" wrote in message
...

Vote for Obama is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

You want four more years of a Republican administration? Man, you're a
glutton for punishment.
snip

Yes. Because what Obama would do to this country scares me to death.
Regardless of what Bush has done, Obama will do worse. Can you say
"Socialism"?


Dang, there I go breaking my own rules about not talking politics. Liberal
extremism does that to me sometimes....

"Zoot" wrote in message

Vote for Obama is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

You want four more years of a Republican administration? Man, you're a
glutton for punishment.
snip

Yes. Because what Obama would do to this country scares me to death.
Regardless of what Bush has done, Obama will do worse. Can you say
"Socialism"?

???? The rescue package has got to be one of the most peculiar things to
come out of the Bush Administration. At least the Brits had the smarts to
take a stake in the banks so that their government can later sell the stake
and recover some of the cost to the taxpayers when the good times come
again. In the US that money seems to just be a donation from the taxpayers.
The Bristih move is definitely a socialist startegy whereas the US one is
pure capitalism. As a taxpayer, I know I'd prefer the British model any
day.

"Zoot" wrote in
:


Vote for Obama is cutting off your nose to spite your
face.

You want four more years of a Republican administration?
Man, you're a glutton for punishment.
snip

Yes. Because what Obama would do to this country scares me
to death. Regardless of what Bush has done, Obama will do
worse. Can you say "Socialism"?

a better question would be, can *you* define "Socialism"?
because i bet it isn't what you think.

lee not liberal, but not stupid either
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

What the hell do you think Medicare is? SOCIAL SECURITY.

It's socialism. And I want nothing to do with it. The government takes a
significant portion of my income away from me against my will and gives it
to social security recipients. I have little confidence that I will ever see
any of this money. I want the government to quit taking my money and giving
it to someone else, and let me decide what to do with it.

I would
live in a socialized nation any time, any day. We are looking to
leave the states within the next ten years. We don't know if we'll go
south to Belize or across to France.

Then do so. There are many socialistic states that assume that the citizens
are not capable of taking care of themselves, and do it for them. If that is
what you want, then go go go.

Anyway, I doubt you are in the tax bracket Obama is talking about
raising taxes on. Most of the country earn the average and are
somewhere between poverty to upper middle.

There is something that many people just can't quite seem to grasp. Who
employs most of the middle class? Bingo! The wealthy! What happens when you
raise taxes on the wealthy? I leave the answer to this question as an
exercise in economics 101.

Stop being a parrot, repeating everything you hear from the grow ups.

Grow up and loose the insults. If you can't say something nice, keep your
mouth shut.

I live in the UK and I've just read thro this thread. I love the States and visit as often as I can and am fascinated by the elections.
I find it interesting that many of the threads on the US page are not about gardening at all, whereas almost all the ones on the UK page are.
If I had two wishes to improve this site it would be that the most recent post would bump that thread to the top of the page and that previous posts were not still hanging around on the reply page every time.

On Oct 24, 1:55*pm, Bill wrote:
In article
,
*Artful Dodger wrote:

Hardly anybody posting. *Is it the change in seasons? *The advent of
(sob) the early dark? *Or -- the elections?

I am so tense, I feel it affecting me not only psychologically, but
perhaps even physically.

If I were a praying person, I would pray that my beloved country
doesn't fall back into the hands of the villains who
have been running it into the ground for more than the last 8 years.

* Take a look at Obie almost 40 years latter.


Couldn't find. Tried cut & paste as well, but no luck. Can you give
a
summary/hint?

In article
,
Artful Dodger wrote:

On Oct 24, 1:55*pm, Bill wrote:
In article
,
*Artful Dodger wrote:

Hardly anybody posting. *Is it the change in seasons? *The advent of
(sob) the early dark? *Or -- the elections?

I am so tense, I feel it affecting me not only psychologically, but
perhaps even physically.

If I were a praying person, I would pray that my beloved country
doesn't fall back into the hands of the villains who
have been running it into the ground for more than the last 8 years.

* Take a look at Obie almost 40 years latter.


Couldn't find. Tried cut & paste as well, but no luck. Can you give
a
summary/hint?

Try http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/cc65ed650d

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Artful Dodger wrote:
Hardly anybody posting. Is it the change in seasons? The advent of
(sob) the early dark? Or -- the elections?


For me its not the elections. This is the "off season" for gardening
and there isn't much to post.

Also, this news group has gone WAY down hill in the last few years. At
one time it was "all gardens all the time". Now there is so much off
topic stuff that it isn't worth reading most of the time.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)



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In article ,
Bill R wrote:

Artful Dodger wrote:
Hardly anybody posting. Is it the change in seasons? The advent of
(sob) the early dark? Or -- the elections?


For me its not the elections. This is the "off season" for gardening
and there isn't much to post.

Also, this news group has gone WAY down hill in the last few years. At
one time it was "all gardens all the time". Now there is so much off
topic stuff that it isn't worth reading most of the time.

More off topic stuff.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/mihaly_csikszentmihalyi_on_flow.html

Bill going up hill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA