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Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however, vote
for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note that
this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):


Because he has no experience, has never authored and passed legislation and
will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the despicable
Chicago kind) for all his work?

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big picture.
The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your myopia.

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Bill Kearney wrote:
Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however,
vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note
that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):


Because he has no experience, has never authored and passed legislation
and will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.


Lincoln had no experience either. We all know how that turned out.

George Bush had executive experience. We all know how that turned out.


Frankly, the fact that Obama has run one of the most exceptionally
successful campaigns in history while McCain's campaign has floundered
miserably, says more about Obama's ability to lead the US than anything
else.

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Default Obama as president: The Commander and Thief

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.


Lincoln had no experience either. We all know how that turned out.


The scale of gov't at the time hardly conflates. Certainly not enough to
even come close.

Frankly, the fact that Obama has run one of the most exceptionally
successful campaigns in history while McCain's campaign has floundered
miserably, says more about Obama's ability to lead the US than anything
else.


Lying to the public to get elected, sadly, has no bearing on ability to
govern.

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Bill Kearney wrote:

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too
blind to see the big picture. The country, and
likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.


Lincoln had no experience either. We all know
how that turned out.


The scale of gov't at the time hardly conflates.
Certainly not enough to even come close.

Frankly, the fact that Obama has run one of the
most exceptionally successful campaigns in
history while McCain's campaign has floundered
miserably, says more about Obama's ability to
lead the US than anything else.


Lying to the public to get elected, sadly, has
no bearing on ability to govern.


Shhhhhhh, don't let McCain here you say that. THAT
is his entire campaign strategy.
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Bill Kearney wrote:

Let me be clear: I do not trust either
candidate. I will, however, vote for the
person that I believe will be the better of the
two (note that this isn't a "lesser of two
evils" argument):


Because he has no experience,


And George W. Bush's experience was???

has never authored
and passed legislation and will turn to
entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?


And George W. Bush turned to the Neo Cons and the
Jewish Cabal forming his foreign policy. Me
thinks I will choose the Chicago gang. The
trains in Chicago run on time!!!


That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too
blind to see the big picture. The country, and
likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.




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Bill Kearney wrote:
Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however,
vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note
that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):


Because he has no experience,


Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:

An incumbent president running for a second term.

has never authored and passed legislation


Um, what? Would you like a list of legislation authored and passed by
Obama?

and will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?


Do you have a citation for that wild claim?

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.


And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?



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Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None. To say
nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.

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Bill Kearney wrote:

Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None.


O RLY? Want me to list all the legislation that he authored and passed?


To
say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.


The United States is an enterprise?


And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.



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DanielSan wrote:
Bill Kearney wrote:

Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None.


O RLY? Want me to list all the legislation that he authored and passed?


To say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.


The United States is an enterprise?



Oops, missed this last comment:

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.




So, this is a lie by Obama?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThoBMfcFRc

I guess you could say that it's a computer animated forgery,
though...........


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Default Obama as president: The Commander and Thief

Bill Kearney wrote:


Err, neither candidate has presidential
experience? You know, the only one who can
claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting
it passed. None. To say nothing of never
having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain
policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.


No, he is a Bush with cancer and a slut puppy as
his running mate.
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On Nov 1, 8:44*pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? *You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. *None. *To say
nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.



McCain has no executive experience. Obama has no executive experience.
Whatever the hell executive experience is.

Authoring legislation is hardly a qualifier for the Presidency.

Given that both candidates lack executive experience, I want the
smartest guy in the room as President.

It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.

Tom
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:

On Nov 1, 8:44*pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? *You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. *None. *To say
nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.



McCain has no executive experience. Obama has no executive experience.
Whatever the hell executive experience is.

Authoring legislation is hardly a qualifier for the Presidency.

Given that both candidates lack executive experience, I want the
smartest guy in the room as President.


Bush had executive experience.

And he still wasn't qualified.


It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.

Tom


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Tom wrote:

It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.


Huzzah! I want intellectually elite people to run the country!

Cheers
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:12:25 -0400 Marty carved the
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Tom wrote:

It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.


Huzzah! I want intellectually elite people to run the country!


John Cleese was on Countdown the other night, and he said that he
didn't want a President he could have a beer with, he wanted a
Pressident so brilliant, so well-informed, that Cleese would be afraid
to open his mouth for fear of showing what an idiot he is.

Watch it yourself, seeing John Cleese doubled over in laughter is
great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUnGfYvXMwg
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