You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:



What if things were switched around.....think about it. Would the
country's collective point of view be different?
Could racism be the culprit? Ponder the following:



What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating
class as did John McCain?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe
disfiguring car accident, which McCain did.?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair
while
he was still married, which McCain did.?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to
pain
killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable
organization, instead of Cindy McCain?


What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five and been chastised
by his peers, as was McCain.?
(The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of
corruption
in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger
Savings
and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem, including calling his
wife a c**t in front of a group of reporters?

What if Michelle Obama's family had made their millions from beer
distribution?

What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?


What if Obama was 72 years old with 4 bouts of cancer behind him,who
is periodically showing signs of confusion because of what some have
said is the onset of dementia, and irresponsibly picked the least
qualified VP choice and without even properly vetting her, as did
McCain.

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected
reality,
do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they
are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities
in
another when there is a color difference.

Educational Background:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political
Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester (left because she didn't like
the weather)
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices
in
the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.


June

In article
, June
wrote:

You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:



What if things were switched around.....think about it. Would the
country's collective point of view be different?
Could racism be the culprit? Ponder the following:



What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating
class as did John McCain?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe
disfiguring car accident, which McCain did.?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair
while
he was still married, which McCain did.?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to
pain
killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable
organization, instead of Cindy McCain?


What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five and been chastised
by his peers, as was McCain.?
(The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of
corruption
in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger
Savings
and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem, including calling his
wife a c**t in front of a group of reporters?

What if Michelle Obama's family had made their millions from beer
distribution?

What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?


What if Obama was 72 years old with 4 bouts of cancer behind him,who
is periodically showing signs of confusion because of what some have
said is the onset of dementia, and irresponsibly picked the least
qualified VP choice and without even properly vetting her, as did
McCain.

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected
reality,
do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they
are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities
in
another when there is a color difference.

Educational Background:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political
Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester (left because she didn't like
the weather)
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices
in
the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.


June


Spectacular post! Thanks.

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"June" wrote in message
...
You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:

His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president.
Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good, and
is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler looked
good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did?

Zoot wrote:
"June" wrote in message
...
You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:

His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president.
Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good, and
is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler looked
good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did?



Bush was "educated." What does that say?

The fact that Obama has run an exceptionally successful campaign
compared to McCain's miserable failure says more than enough about which
man is qualified to be president.

..

--

We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCYW4ScUnw

His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president.
Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good,
and is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler
looked good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did?

Bush was "educated." What does that say?

The fact that Obama has run an exceptionally successful campaign compared
to McCain's miserable failure says more than enough about which man is
qualified to be president.


It seems to support my claim that education alone is not a qualification to
be president. As for Obama and his successful campaign - you can't say his
campaign is successful until he is actually president. Otherwise it's not
sucessful. Likewise, McCain has not miserably failed until Obama is
president. Which just might happen...

On the subject of sucessfull campaigns - how does that make anyone qualified
to be president? I would think that convincing people to vote for you has
next to nothing to do with being qualified to be president.

Zoot wrote:
His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president.
Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good,
and is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler
looked good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did?
Bush was "educated." What does that say?

The fact that Obama has run an exceptionally successful campaign compared
to McCain's miserable failure says more than enough about which man is
qualified to be president.


It seems to support my claim that education alone is not a qualification to
be president. As for Obama and his successful campaign - you can't say his
campaign is successful until he is actually president. Otherwise it's not
sucessful. Likewise, McCain has not miserably failed until Obama is
president. Which just might happen...

McCain has less than a 3% chance of winning. EVs have Obama ahead
WITHOUT the toss up states. His win is a foregone conclusion at this time.

And McCain's campaign has been a disaster. He promised an honourable
campaign, we got fear and smears. He has run out of money and can't even
afford to put boots on the ground on Tuesday since he has put it all
into ads this weekend. His campaign office across the country are manned
by one or two people or are closed. He is only getting a few thousand at
rallies....

Obama is swimming in contributions (and didn't he refuse public money?).
His offices are turning away volunteers. His rally in St. Louis sported
100,000 people to McCain's 2000.

McCain has lost. The writing is on the wall....to those that WANT to see it.


On the subject of sucessfull campaigns - how does that make anyone qualified
to be president? I would think that convincing people to vote for you has
next to nothing to do with being qualified to be president.



Says plenty. Just because you're too blinded by ideology to understand
how running a HUGELY successful campaign makes one a leader doesn't mean
he isn't.

..

--

We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCYW4ScUnw

Says plenty. Just because you're too blinded by ideology to understand
how running a HUGELY successful campaign makes one a leader doesn't mean
he isn't.

I don't recall saying anything about his leadership ability. I may be
blinded by my progressive liberal ideology, but I stand by my statement that
running a sucessful campaing and being president of the US have little to do
with each other. They require different skills and different abilities.
Apples and Oranges.

I would think that convincing people to vote for you has next to nothing
to do with being qualified to be president.

Exactly. Sadly the hangover these Obama lovers are going to wake up with
would cause us all pain.

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:50:29 -0700 in
, "Zoot" wrote:

"June" wrote in message
news:ea29fcf0-e4ad-4351-a34c-
...
You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:

His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be
president.

So you want one without intelligence and education maybe?



--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“It is often argued that religion is valuable because
it makes men good, but even if this were true it would
not be a proof that religion is true. That would be
an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance.
Santa Claus makes children good in precisely the same
way, and yet no one would argue seriously that the
fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is
full of such logical imbecilities.�

- H. L. Mencken

Zoot wrote:


"June" wrote in message

...
You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to
research Obamas education, his honors at
Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed head
of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take
all the big money jobs offered and decided for
a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in
the Illinois legislature and a couple years as
a US senatory. The man has character and
intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent.
Think on this:

His intelligence and education do NOT make him
qualified to be president.

Gosh, do you want another Bush? He and a LOT of
his fellow Republicans take GREAT PRIDE in their
IGNORANCE and poor college grades.

Even with all his deferments, I don't think Dick
Cheney even graduated from college, did he?

And then there is John McCain who somehow BARELY
escaped graduating at the very BOTTOM of his
class at the Navy Academy. He was even worse as
a pilot and did not take flying and learning his
aircraft seriously. I guess that makes him VERY
qualified in your book. Hardy har har har :-)

Oh, I see now. Obama does not have "Executive
Experience" -- like, ah well let me see, one
George W. Bush. Let me see, how many companies
did he run into the ground as CEO - and - he does
have "presidential experience". Gosh, I guess
you must think he is most qualified to continue
in office. Maybe he should push for a
constitutional amendment to give him a third
term. Wait - the next best thing - a McCain
presidency - Hardy har har har.

Electing someone
solely because they look good, sound good, smell
good,

Tell it to Ronald Reagan.

and is one of the intelluctual elite is a
recipe for disastor. Hitler looked good, sounded
good, smelled good, and look what he did?

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:30:55 -0700 in
, June
wrote:

You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed head
of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money jobs
offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois legislature
and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character and
intelligence.

Yeah but can he see Russia from his house?

Huh? HUH?



--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Theology is the effort to explain the unknowable
in terms of the not worth knowing.�

- H. L. Mencken

June,
Your comments here are not incorrect, but they are irrelevant. It's not
about the man. It is about policy, beliefs and the trust in the honesty he
speaks. History has taught this lesson many times over.
Steve

"June" wrote in message
...
You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:



What if things were switched around.....think about it. Would the
country's collective point of view be different?
Could racism be the culprit? Ponder the following:



What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating
class as did John McCain?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe
disfiguring car accident, which McCain did.?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair
while
he was still married, which McCain did.?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to
pain
killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable
organization, instead of Cindy McCain?


What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five and been chastised
by his peers, as was McCain.?
(The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of
corruption
in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger
Savings
and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem, including calling his
wife a c**t in front of a group of reporters?

What if Michelle Obama's family had made their millions from beer
distribution?

What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?


What if Obama was 72 years old with 4 bouts of cancer behind him,who
is periodically showing signs of confusion because of what some have
said is the onset of dementia, and irresponsibly picked the least
qualified VP choice and without even properly vetting her, as did
McCain.

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected
reality,
do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they
are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities
in
another when there is a color difference.

Educational Background:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political
Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester (left because she didn't like
the weather)
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices
in
the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.


June

He even taught
constitutional law for a few years.

Hmmm., those who can't do... teach.

On Nov 1, 8:47*pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
He even taught
constitutional law for a few years.

Hmmm., those who can't do... teach.


Being a law school professor is hardly something to be ashamed of, let
alone discounted and ridiculed.

He could've practiced law, but then you'd complain about him being a
lawyer.

No matter what he has accomplished in life, you will never give him
credit for them.

Are you a racist or just unwilling to acknowledge one achievements?

Tom

Ah yes, the specious 'racist' argument. Anyone daring to criticize their
almighty Obama must be a racist.

Hardly. I'm just not interested in seeing someone with so few creditials
suitable for the job be elected to it. That his ass happens to be black has
nothing to do with it. Shame on you for trying to insinuate otherwise.
Who's the closest racist here, you, more likely.


"Tom" wrote in message
...
On Nov 1, 8:47 pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
He even taught
constitutional law for a few years.

Hmmm., those who can't do... teach.


Being a law school professor is hardly something to be ashamed of, let
alone discounted and ridiculed.

He could've practiced law, but then you'd complain about him being a
lawyer.

No matter what he has accomplished in life, you will never give him
credit for them.

Are you a racist or just unwilling to acknowledge one achievements?

Tom