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Bill Kearney wrote:
Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however,
vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note
that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):


Because he has no experience,


Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:

An incumbent president running for a second term.

has never authored and passed legislation


Um, what? Would you like a list of legislation authored and passed by
Obama?

and will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?


Do you have a citation for that wild claim?

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.


And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?



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Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None. To say
nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.

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Default Obama as president: The Commander and Thief

Bill Kearney wrote:

Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None.


O RLY? Want me to list all the legislation that he authored and passed?


To
say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.


The United States is an enterprise?


And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.



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DanielSan wrote:
Bill Kearney wrote:

Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None.


O RLY? Want me to list all the legislation that he authored and passed?


To say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.


The United States is an enterprise?



Oops, missed this last comment:

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.




So, this is a lie by Obama?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThoBMfcFRc

I guess you could say that it's a computer animated forgery,
though...........


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Default Obama as president: The Commander and Thief

Bill Kearney wrote:


Err, neither candidate has presidential
experience? You know, the only one who can
claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting
it passed. None. To say nothing of never
having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain
policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.


No, he is a Bush with cancer and a slut puppy as
his running mate.


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On Nov 1, 8:44*pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? *You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. *None. *To say
nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.



McCain has no executive experience. Obama has no executive experience.
Whatever the hell executive experience is.

Authoring legislation is hardly a qualifier for the Presidency.

Given that both candidates lack executive experience, I want the
smartest guy in the room as President.

It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.

Tom
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:

On Nov 1, 8:44*pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? *You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:


No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. *None. *To say
nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise.

And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?


McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise.



McCain has no executive experience. Obama has no executive experience.
Whatever the hell executive experience is.

Authoring legislation is hardly a qualifier for the Presidency.

Given that both candidates lack executive experience, I want the
smartest guy in the room as President.


Bush had executive experience.

And he still wasn't qualified.


It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.

Tom


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Tom wrote:

It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.


Huzzah! I want intellectually elite people to run the country!

Cheers
Martin

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On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:12:25 -0400 Marty carved the
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Tom wrote:

It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.


Huzzah! I want intellectually elite people to run the country!


John Cleese was on Countdown the other night, and he said that he
didn't want a President he could have a beer with, he wanted a
Pressident so brilliant, so well-informed, that Cleese would be afraid
to open his mouth for fear of showing what an idiot he is.

Watch it yourself, seeing John Cleese doubled over in laughter is
great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUnGfYvXMwg
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On Nov 2, 9:15*am, Douglas Berry
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On *Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:12:25 -0400 Marty carved the
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Tom wrote:


It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.


Huzzah! *I want intellectually elite people to run the country!


John Cleese was on Countdown the other night, and he said that he
didn't want a President he could have a beer with, he wanted a
Pressident so brilliant, so well-informed, that Cleese would be afraid
to open his mouth for fear of showing what an idiot he is.

Watch it yourself, seeing John Cleese doubled over in laughter is
great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUnGfYvXMwg
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source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein



I saw that, too.

Cleese is pretty smart himself, so coming from him, I think he lends a
lot of credibility to smartest guy in the room point of view.

Thanks for the link. It was fun watching again.

Tom


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On 2008-11-02 10:15:00 -0500, Douglas Berry
said:

John Cleese was on Countdown the other night, and he said that he
didn't want a President he could have a beer with, he wanted a
Pressident so brilliant, so well-informed, that Cleese would be afraid
to open his mouth for fear of showing what an idiot he is.

Watch it yourself, seeing John Cleese doubled over in laughter is
great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUnGfYvXMwg


Olbermann may have given the most truthful assessment: that his salary
is paid by the manufactured controversy.

There is hardly a whit of difference between the two RepubliCrat candidates.

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On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:00:49 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2008-11-02 10:15:00 -0500, Douglas Berry
said:

John Cleese was on Countdown the other night, and he said that he
didn't want a President he could have a beer with, he wanted a
Pressident so brilliant, so well-informed, that Cleese would be afraid
to open his mouth for fear of showing what an idiot he is.

Watch it yourself, seeing John Cleese doubled over in laughter is
great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUnGfYvXMwg


Olbermann may have given the most truthful assessment: that his salary
is paid by the manufactured controversy.

There is hardly a whit of difference between the two RepubliCrat candidates.


If you know anything about econcomics you would not say that.

Under one, we have a chance to get out of this credit disaster, under
the other - not a prayer. Kiss your job goodby.
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On 2008-11-01 19:14:07 -0400, DanielSan said:

Um, what? Would you like a list of legislation authored and passed by Obama?


Oh, I would like to see a list of *any* authored by him.

For good or ill, there is the quite prominent McCain-Feingold act.

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On 2008-11-01 19:14:07 -0400, DanielSan said:

Um, what? Would you like a list of legislation authored and passed by
Obama?


Oh, I would like to see a list of *any* authored by him.


Okay, there's an EASY way for you to find out. It's actually VERY simple.

1. Go to http://thomas.loc.gov
2. Choose "Obama, Barack [D-IL]" from the "Select a Senator" dropdown.
3. Click "GO" button.

You're welcome.


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On 2008-11-02 01:19:22 -0500, DanielSan said:

Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-11-01 19:14:07 -0400, DanielSan said:

Um, what? Would you like a list of legislation authored and passed by Obama?


Oh, I would like to see a list of *any* authored by him.


Okay, there's an EASY way for you to find out. It's actually VERY simple.

1. Go to http://thomas.loc.gov
2. Choose "Obama, Barack [D-IL]" from the "Select a Senator" dropdown.
3. Click "GO" button.

You're welcome.


Hmmm. Lots of bills to honor people, most of the rest read twice and
referred (buried). Might be a half-dozen of minor substance that didn't
die that natural death (being charitable).

Checking McCain served up fewer, but most were passed, only a couple
were read twice and buried, didn't notice any of the PR "to Honor" or
"x week" fluff ones.

It's a shame the record only goes back a couple of years.

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