I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

"Zoot" wrote:
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

"Sheldon" wrote in message
...
"Zoot" wrote:
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

mid Wilamette Valley, Oregon, near Salem.

"Zoot" wrote:
"Sheldon" wrote:
"Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

mid Wilamette Valley, Oregon, near Salem.

Pick, choose, and refuse: http://tinyurl.com/6nl696

http://www.burpee.com/p2p/searchResu...ivals&page=all

You can also visit your local Agway and ask for a recommendation.

"Sheldon" wrote in message
...
"Zoot" wrote:
"Sheldon" wrote:
"Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year
was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured.
Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar
corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

mid Wilamette Valley, Oregon, near Salem.

Pick, choose, and refuse: http://tinyurl.com/6nl696

http://www.burpee.com/p2p/searchResu...ivals&page=all

You can also visit your local Agway and ask for a recommendation.


See catalogs don't tell me anything. Amazing Size! Delicious mouth watering
sweetness! Grows without water or even soil! Bah...in their eagerness to
sell seeds, they overhype the descriptions so badly you can't tell what is
what.

On Nov 28, 12:05�pm, "Zoot" wrote:
"Sheldon" wrote in message

...





"Zoot" wrote:
"Sheldon" wrote:
"Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year
was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured.
Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar
corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

mid Wilamette Valley, Oregon, near Salem.

Pick, choose, and refuse:http://tinyurl.com/6nl696

http://www.burpee.com/p2p/searchResu...&keyword=corn&...

You can also visit your local Agway and ask for a recommendation.

See catalogs don't tell me anything.

You chose not to read all the descriptions.

"Zoot" wrote in message
...
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?


A few things to bear in mind.

The climate in general has been highly varied throughout the U.S. at a
highly varying rate for at least 5 years now. No projected time for this to
settle out to any kind of "normalcy" regarding general temperature and
rainfall. Toss the almanac.

Corn is a hybrid version of native "maize" Of which, other hybrids have
arisen since. The later the hybrid, the less tolerant of variable
temp/rainfall conditions.
--
Dave

Dioclese wrote:
"Zoot" wrote in message
...
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?


A few things to bear in mind.

The climate in general has been highly varied throughout the U.S. at a
highly varying rate for at least 5 years now. No projected time for this to
settle out to any kind of "normalcy" regarding general temperature and
rainfall. Toss the almanac.

Corn is a hybrid version of native "maize" Of which, other hybrids have
arisen since. The later the hybrid, the less tolerant of variable
temp/rainfall conditions.

Do you have any scientific citations for any of this? It sounds
completely made up. I think if you looked at the climate histories for
any given region, you would see that both the degree of variation as
well as the rate of variation hasn't changed much over the last several
centuries.

As far as corn hybrids go, my experience as a corn farmer leads me to
think that the newer hybrids are MORE tolerant of variable temp/rainfall
conditions, not the opposite. The seed companies have been very active
in this area and yields have gone up quite a bit as a result.

I'd be interested in seeing where your information came from

- dave a

Do you have any scientific citations for any of this? It sounds
completely made up. I think if you looked at the climate histories for
any given region, you would see that both the degree of variation as well
as the rate of variation hasn't changed much over the last several
centuries.

We have been experiencing a cooling trend up here in the NorthWest for the
past couple of years. Last spring/summer was one of the coolest and wettest
in quite a while. However, talk to any old-timers and they tell you about
how cold it used to get fifty years ago. I met this one old feller a few
years ago that talked about how he has seen the Columbia river freeze over
every winter. That hasn't happened for many years.

As far as corn hybrids go, my experience as a corn farmer leads me to
think that the newer hybrids are MORE tolerant of variable temp/rainfall
conditions, not the opposite. The seed companies have been very active in
this area and yields have gone up quite a bit as a result.

What are your experiences with high sugar hybrids - corn bred for high sugar
contents?

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:53 -0800, "Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?


Immediately rent the movie, "King Corn," then let me know if you or
anyone need more corn.
Victoria

In all fairness, "King Corn" is about GMO, and to a lesser extent,
"dent" corn. The question here was in reference to sweet corn, which I
think I'm giving up on because of water consumption, and my lack of
skill in picking at the peak of ripeness.
--

Billy
Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

In all fairness, "King Corn" is about GMO, and to a lesser extent,
"dent" corn. The question here was in reference to sweet corn, which I
think I'm giving up on because of water consumption, and my lack of
skill in picking at the peak of ripeness.
--

I have a well, fortunately, but I too seem to lack the ability to pick when
ripe. One day the kernels are too smal, the next day they are over-ripe.

Jangchub[_3_];823960']On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:41:14 -0800, Billy
wrote:

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:53 -0800, "Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?


Immediately rent the movie, "King Corn," then let me know if you or
anyone need more corn.
Victoria

In all fairness, "King Corn" is about GMO, and to a lesser extent,
"dent" corn. The question here was in reference to sweet corn, which I
think I'm giving up on because of water consumption, and my lack of
skill in picking at the peak of ripeness.

You apparently didn't pay much attention.
Victoria

are there any sweet corn producers in your area? if there are go and
talk with them and get their recommendations on the types of corn they
grow. also u they may be able to direct u to their seed supplier and
sometimes gardeners are able to get corn from the suppliers.
as has already been mentioned your local Ag office would also be of good
help in getting info on certain kinds of corns and conditions that they
require so u could make a more informed decision on the hybrid u want .
now to harvesting corn--as was mentioned the ear would be filled out but
also u must check your corn every day--take a kernel out of
one of the ears to check it for ripeness if it tastes sweet and is not overly milky then its ripe.
good way to do corn: bring water in pot to rolling boil put the husked corn into your pot and then let it cook on full boil for
three minutes and no more--we have found this to be the best
way to do our corn .
good luck with your corn growing . cyaaaaaa, sockiescat.

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:41:14 -0800, Billy
wrote:

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:53 -0800, "Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?


Immediately rent the movie, "King Corn," then let me know if you or
anyone need more corn.
Victoria

In all fairness, "King Corn" is about GMO, and to a lesser extent,
"dent" corn. The question here was in reference to sweet corn, which I
think I'm giving up on because of water consumption, and my lack of
skill in picking at the peak of ripeness.

You apparently didn't pay much attention.
Victoria




To what are you referring, and what do you base your opinion on?
As far as the corn is concerned, the one family farmer said that they
hadn't eaten any of the corn in 30 years of cultivating it but had used
it for meal. Otherwise, I payed as close attention to my developing corn
as I could, but I never got an ear that was close to ripe. They wee
either over or under ripe.
--

Billy
Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:00:46 -0800, Billy
wrote:



To what are you referring, and what do you base your opinion on?
As far as the corn is concerned, the one family farmer said that they
hadn't eaten any of the corn in 30 years of cultivating it but had used
it for meal. Otherwise, I payed as close attention to my developing corn
as I could, but I never got an ear that was close to ripe. They wee
either over or under ripe.

It was not only about GMO corn. It was about much more than that.

Simply fascinating, just fascinating.
But On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:53 -0800, "Zoot"
wrote:
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties.

Your presumptuous, patronizing, and superficial explanation of the
unhealthy effects of the ubiquitous fractionations of corn and soybean
products in processed foods doesn't address the O.P.s question.
The movie, "Corn", had nothing to do with sweet corn, a recommended
variety of which is the subject of this post.

I do recommend the movie "Corn" to any who are interested in how
crop subsidies work, and who benefits from them. I'd also recommend
the books,"Omnivore's Dilemma", which has a section on prepared foods,
as well as "In Defense of Food" (both, as most of you know, by Michael
Pollan) for a discussion of the lack of nutrition in pre-prepared
foods.

Every processed food has corn in it, corn syrup, meal, whatever. It
is in everything we eat. It is fed in troughs to cattle to fatten
them up and people think corn fed is a good thing. It's the worst
crap for the poor cattle. They eat grass.
Yes, we already know that if the feed lot animal wasn't killed after six
months, it would die of ulcers anyway, but that should be left to a
different post.


So I base my opinion on your flippant answer. It was about MUCH more
than GMO corn, which by the way, is polluting the world.
Victoria

My answer was flippant, in your opinion, because I ignored the
bloody obvious? I was trying to point out that "Corn" is about
GMO and "Dent" corn and as such has no bearing on Zoot's post.
You remember Zoot, don't you?

So, not to put too fine a point on it, what would you plant for
an early ripening sweet corn (open pollinated or hybrid)?
--

Billy
Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:46:04 -0800, Billy
wrote:

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:00:46 -0800, Billy
wrote:



To what are you referring, and what do you base your opinion on?
As far as the corn is concerned, the one family farmer said that they
hadn't eaten any of the corn in 30 years of cultivating it but had used
it for meal. Otherwise, I payed as close attention to my developing corn
as I could, but I never got an ear that was close to ripe. They wee
either over or under ripe.

It was not only about GMO corn. It was about much more than that.

Simply fascinating, just fascinating.
But On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:53 -0800, "Zoot"
wrote:
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties.

Your presumptuous, patronizing, and superficial explanation of the
unhealthy effects of the ubiquitous fractionations of corn and soybean
products in processed foods doesn't address the O.P.s question.
The movie, "Corn", had nothing to do with sweet corn, a recommended
variety of which is the subject of this post.

I do recommend the movie "Corn" to any who are interested in how
crop subsidies work, and who benefits from them. I'd also recommend
the books,"Omnivore's Dilemma", which has a section on prepared foods,
as well as "In Defense of Food" (both, as most of you know, by Michael
Pollan) for a discussion of the lack of nutrition in pre-prepared
foods.

Every processed food has corn in it, corn syrup, meal, whatever. It
is in everything we eat. It is fed in troughs to cattle to fatten
them up and people think corn fed is a good thing. It's the worst
crap for the poor cattle. They eat grass.
Yes, we already know that if the feed lot animal wasn't killed after six
months, it would die of ulcers anyway, but that should be left to a
different post.


So I base my opinion on your flippant answer. It was about MUCH more
than GMO corn, which by the way, is polluting the world.
Victoria

My answer was flippant, in your opinion, because I ignored the
bloody obvious? I was trying to point out that "Corn" is about
GMO and "Dent" corn and as such has no bearing on Zoot's post.
You remember Zoot, don't you?

So, not to put too fine a point on it, what would you plant for
an early ripening sweet corn (open pollinated or hybrid)?

The correct name of the film is "King Corn." You didn't even get that
right, but rant off.
Victoria




You will notice the title of the thread, "Corn recommendations".
Maybe once you get your cranial-rectal inversion fixed, you'll be
able to read better. So, you have no recommendations except a DVD that
has nothing to do with sweet corn? Why did you even respond, when you
had nothing to say? That's just soooo you.
--

Billy
Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net