I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

"Zoot" wrote:
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

"Sheldon" wrote in message
...
"Zoot" wrote:
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

mid Wilamette Valley, Oregon, near Salem.

"Zoot" wrote:
"Sheldon" wrote:
"Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

mid Wilamette Valley, Oregon, near Salem.

Pick, choose, and refuse: http://tinyurl.com/6nl696

http://www.burpee.com/p2p/searchResu...ivals&page=all

You can also visit your local Agway and ask for a recommendation.

"Sheldon" wrote in message
...
"Zoot" wrote:
"Sheldon" wrote:
"Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year
was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured.
Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar
corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

mid Wilamette Valley, Oregon, near Salem.

Pick, choose, and refuse: http://tinyurl.com/6nl696

http://www.burpee.com/p2p/searchResu...ivals&page=all

You can also visit your local Agway and ask for a recommendation.


See catalogs don't tell me anything. Amazing Size! Delicious mouth watering
sweetness! Grows without water or even soil! Bah...in their eagerness to
sell seeds, they overhype the descriptions so badly you can't tell what is
what.

"Zoot" wrote in message
...
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?


A few things to bear in mind.

The climate in general has been highly varied throughout the U.S. at a
highly varying rate for at least 5 years now. No projected time for this to
settle out to any kind of "normalcy" regarding general temperature and
rainfall. Toss the almanac.

Corn is a hybrid version of native "maize" Of which, other hybrids have
arisen since. The later the hybrid, the less tolerant of variable
temp/rainfall conditions.
--
Dave

Dioclese wrote:
"Zoot" wrote in message
...
I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?


A few things to bear in mind.

The climate in general has been highly varied throughout the U.S. at a
highly varying rate for at least 5 years now. No projected time for this to
settle out to any kind of "normalcy" regarding general temperature and
rainfall. Toss the almanac.

Corn is a hybrid version of native "maize" Of which, other hybrids have
arisen since. The later the hybrid, the less tolerant of variable
temp/rainfall conditions.

Do you have any scientific citations for any of this? It sounds
completely made up. I think if you looked at the climate histories for
any given region, you would see that both the degree of variation as
well as the rate of variation hasn't changed much over the last several
centuries.

As far as corn hybrids go, my experience as a corn farmer leads me to
think that the newer hybrids are MORE tolerant of variable temp/rainfall
conditions, not the opposite. The seed companies have been very active
in this area and yields have gone up quite a bit as a result.

I'd be interested in seeing where your information came from

- dave a

Do you have any scientific citations for any of this? It sounds
completely made up. I think if you looked at the climate histories for
any given region, you would see that both the degree of variation as well
as the rate of variation hasn't changed much over the last several
centuries.

We have been experiencing a cooling trend up here in the NorthWest for the
past couple of years. Last spring/summer was one of the coolest and wettest
in quite a while. However, talk to any old-timers and they tell you about
how cold it used to get fifty years ago. I met this one old feller a few
years ago that talked about how he has seen the Columbia river freeze over
every winter. That hasn't happened for many years.

As far as corn hybrids go, my experience as a corn farmer leads me to
think that the newer hybrids are MORE tolerant of variable temp/rainfall
conditions, not the opposite. The seed companies have been very active in
this area and yields have gone up quite a bit as a result.

What are your experiences with high sugar hybrids - corn bred for high sugar
contents?

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:53 -0800, "Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured. Also, I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?


Immediately rent the movie, "King Corn," then let me know if you or
anyone need more corn.
Victoria

In all fairness, "King Corn" is about GMO, and to a lesser extent,
"dent" corn. The question here was in reference to sweet corn, which I
think I'm giving up on because of water consumption, and my lack of
skill in picking at the peak of ripeness.
--

Billy
Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

In all fairness, "King Corn" is about GMO, and to a lesser extent,
"dent" corn. The question here was in reference to sweet corn, which I
think I'm giving up on because of water consumption, and my lack of
skill in picking at the peak of ripeness.
--

I have a well, fortunately, but I too seem to lack the ability to pick when
ripe. One day the kernels are too smal, the next day they are over-ripe.

On Nov 28, 12:05�pm, "Zoot" wrote:
"Sheldon" wrote in message

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"Zoot" wrote:
"Sheldon" wrote:
"Zoot" wrote:

I am looking for recommendations for corn varieties. This last year
was a
short, cold, wet growing season and half of our corn never matured.
Also,
I
seem to have the best luck with yellow corn, worst luck with white and
high
sugar corn.

Anyone have any comments on the robustness of white and high sugar
corn,
versus 'normal' yellow corn, and any recommendations for short growing
seasons?

Would help to know your location.

mid Wilamette Valley, Oregon, near Salem.

Pick, choose, and refuse:http://tinyurl.com/6nl696

http://www.burpee.com/p2p/searchResu...&keyword=corn&...

You can also visit your local Agway and ask for a recommendation.

See catalogs don't tell me anything.

You chose not to read all the descriptions.

See catalogs don't tell me anything.

You chose not to read all the descriptions.

* Notes lack of usefull content in reply....

See catalogs don't tell me anything.

You chose not to read all the descriptions.

I read stuff like this:

Packed large, juicy golden kernels---18 full rows on every 8-inch ear.
Bodacious Hybrid Sweet Corn has sweet, flavorful and exceptionally tender!
Fine for canning and freezing. As dependable as it is delicious. Excellent
disease resistance.

This All-America Selections winner is considered the premium sh2 bicolored
corn. Each well-formed, 8 1/2-inch-long ear boasts 16 to 18 rows of
honey-sweet pearly kernels. Delicious fresh, canned or frozen

Silver Queen Hybrid Sweet Corn combines size, sweetness and lasting quality!
Ears are 8-9 inches long with 14-16 rows of creamy kernels. Leaf blight
tolerant.

And I don't see which are hardier and which people have grown with what
level of success. Maybe I'm not smart enough to find these magical
descriptions that actually tell me about how well the corn grows, etc.

So - where are the corn gardeners? What sweet corn has who grown that did
well for them?

"ZooTROLL" wrote:
See catalogs don't tell me anything.
You chose not to read all the descriptions.

* Notes lack of usefull content in reply....

Zoot said:

So - where are the corn gardeners? What sweet corn has who grown that
did well for them?

I'm partial to the SE hybrids carried by Stokes. SE corn gives you a larger
window for harvest, in that it holds on the plant better before getting too
tough.

Stokes lists some of their sweet corn as particularly suited to northern
growers, by latitude. (Stokes is a Canadian company.) People in the
Pacific Northwest might also look to Territorial Seeds; I assume they
would stock varieties of sweet corn suited to their region.

In my opinion, sh2 type super sweet corns aren't worth the effort (less vigor
+ overly sweet + not tender).

Here's what I grew this year:

Aladdin for an early corn, my first planting in May

Seneca Spring, second early

Mirai 301 BC (from Park Seed) for early mid-season

Lancelot for mid-season

Seneca Dancer (two plantings) for late harvest.

I time the first planting to the emerging oak leaves. Each planting after
that is made when the previous planting has emerged.

As far as timing the harvest, you have to learn to do it by feel. The husk
will have no room to 'give' when the ear is ready.

--
Pat in Plymouth MI

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