Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.

AFAIK the best option you have is TERRO. I had the same problem and it
solved it. It'll cost you though..about $0.59 in your local supermarket.
Works like gangbusters. Best stuff I've ever seen.

As for Diazanon..I don't know the story, but in the past, it has been my
observation that if it works the government will outlaw it...and the
better it works, the faster it will be outlawed.

EJ in NJ

OhioGuy wrote:
Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.

In article , "OhioGuy" wrote:

Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.

Got boric acid?
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/0...ller-article.h
tm
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

In article ,

TERRO is a commercial name for "Sodium Tetraborate, decahydrate" 5.4%
The functional part of the name is Tetra-BORATE as in boric acid.
See:
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/0...ller-article.h
tm

Ecological Information
Diazinon is highly toxic to birds, fish, and other wildlife. Avoid
exposure to waterfowl. Highly toxic to bees exposed to treatment ot to
residues on blooming crops or weed. Do no apply this product where fish,
shrimp, crab, and other wildlife are important resources.
http://www.hort.wisc.edu/cran/PestWe...msds/diazinona
g600wbcmsds.pdf

This is one time that Ernie's observations are crap. TERRO looks good
but you can probably make it yourself, cheaper.


Ernie Willson wrote:

AFAIK the best option you have is TERRO. I had the same problem and it
solved it. It'll cost you though..about $0.59 in your local supermarket.
Works like gangbusters. Best stuff I've ever seen.

As for Diazanon..I don't know the story, but in the past, it has been my
observation that if it works the government will outlaw it...and the
better it works, the faster it will be outlawed.

EJ in NJ

OhioGuy wrote:
Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular
pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.


--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

On May 6, 5:08*am, "OhioGuy" wrote:
* Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. *It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. *The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

* At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. *It looks like Diazinon has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.

Haven't tried it on ants, but diatomaceous earth spread
along their paths or around anthills might do the trick.
DE is an accepted organic insecticide. It works not by
poisoning them, but by chewing holes in their exoskeletons,
killing them by dehydration. Won't harm anything larger
than insect size.

I ended up trying Ortho Max Bug B Gone for Lawns - season long pest
control. It was $14, but if we no longer have ants on our plates,
silverware and toothbrushes, it will be worth it.

Billy,

As I said TERRO has been the best stuff I can find. It is a boric acid
solution with a sweetener added. Cheaper than dirt. A year supply cost
me less than a buck.

What do you suggest as a better/cheaper/safer alternate?

EJ in NJ

Billy wrote:
In article , "OhioGuy" wrote:

Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.

Got boric acid?
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/0...ller-article.h
tm

Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.



Sorry - but I missed Part 1.
Have you identified the exact ant that you have ?
If they are pharoah ants - very tiny ants -
then normal methods do not work.
Pharoah ants require special tactics.
You can google this.
John T.

In article ,
Ernie Willson wrote:

As for Diazanon..I don't know the story, but in the past, it has been my
observation that if it works the government will outlaw it...and the
better it works, the faster it will be outlawed.

The EPA is one branch of government that works fairly well, except under
"The Worst President Ever"(Clean Air, and Clean Water Acts were dirty
jokes).
So the next time you want death, ask for it by name, "Monsanto".

Diazinon
MANUFACTURER
The SOLARIS Group
of Monsanto Company
P.O. Box 5008
San Ramon, CA 94583-0808

Another blow against the planet from Monsanto.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

In article ,
Ernie Willson wrote:

Billy,

As I said TERRO has been the best stuff I can find. It is a boric acid
solution with a sweetener added. Cheaper than dirt. A year supply cost
me less than a buck.

What do you suggest as a better/cheaper/safer alternate?

EJ in NJ

Billy wrote:
In article , "OhioGuy" wrote:

Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular
pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon
has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.

Got boric acid?
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/0...ller-article.h
tm

You got the URL and I'm happy you don't have the diazinon that you would
have preferred.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

In article , "OhioGuy" wrote:

Ortho Max Bug B Gone for Lawns

Bifenthrin

http://www.bugspray.net/msds/bifen_lp_msds.pdf

ECOTOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION: Bifenthrin is highly toxic to fish and
aquatic arthropods and LC50 values range
from 0.0038 to 17.8 ?g/L. In general, the aquatic arthropods are the
most sensitive species. Care should be taken to avoid
contamination of the aquatic environment. Bifenthrin had no effect on
mollusks at its limit of water solubility. Bifenthrin is
only slightly toxic to both waterfowl and upland game birds (LD50 values
range from 1,800 mg/kg to 2,150 mg/kg).
-----

http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/0...ller-article.h
tm

It's not rocket science.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

Billie,

I'm still waiting for your suggestion for something cheaper and more
environmentally friendly than TERRO.

Please show me where I recommended using Diazinon for these ants. Please
get your facts right Dunce.

EJ in NJ

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Ernie Willson wrote:

Billy,

As I said TERRO has been the best stuff I can find. It is a boric acid
solution with a sweetener added. Cheaper than dirt. A year supply cost
me less than a buck.

What do you suggest as a better/cheaper/safer alternate?

EJ in NJ

Billy wrote:
In article , "OhioGuy" wrote:

Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house. The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular
pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon
has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.
Got boric acid?
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/0...ller-article.h
tm

You got the URL and I'm happy you don't have the diazinon that you would
have preferred.

In article ,
Ernie Willson wrote:

As for Diazanon..I don't know the story, but in the past, it has been my
observation that if it works the government will outlaw it...and the
better it works, the faster it will be outlawed.

That is a tacit endorsement. You didn't say, "Oh my god, that stuff is
poison." No, you used your best "Tea Party" speak to say it must be good
because the government outlawed it.

Don't waste you rhetorical slithering on me. You obviously have (or had)
no idea or concerns over the effect of biocides on the biosphere, Jerk.
Billie,

I'm still waiting for your suggestion for something cheaper and more
environmentally friendly than TERRO.

Please show me where I recommended using Diazinon for these ants. Please
get your facts right Dunce.

EJ in NJ

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Ernie Willson wrote:

Billy,

As I said TERRO has been the best stuff I can find. It is a boric acid
solution with a sweetener added. Cheaper than dirt. A year supply cost
me less than a buck.

What do you suggest as a better/cheaper/safer alternate?

EJ in NJ

Billy wrote:
In article , "OhioGuy" wrote:

Ok, I've tried using pulverized limestone, plus a number of other
suggestions, like pepper powder, and cinnamon. It really did little
more
than make a mess of my kitchen, and the area right outside our house.
The
ants are still all over the kitchen.

At this point, I would simply like to know what sort of granular
pesticide
I can buy to put on the soil near our house to make sure that any ants
nearby in the soil are killed, and stay killed. It looks like Diazinon
has
been withdrawn, and that would have been my first choice in the past.
Got boric acid?
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/0...ller-article.h
tm

You got the URL and I'm happy you don't have the diazinon that you would
have preferred.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html