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Billy wrote: In article , z wrote: On May 9, 8:00 pm, RK77 wrote: Hi Thanks for responding to my previous post. I just need some more help as I'm amateur gardener. I've got plenty of weeds on bare soil, no lawn at the moment. Soil is okay at the moment but pretty uneven and I've to put 15cm of topsoil to make it level. I've tried to remove them by digging up but sometimes their roots are too deep and they just break up. Will it be a problem if I leave those broken roots or I've to take them out whatever happens. I most case I really have to dig deep to get to them. Once all the weeds are removed and site is cleared I'll be putting 15cm of topsoil on top of existing soil. Will that help OR the weeds will still penetrate from there as well. I'll put ready made turf on top of that once leveled and free from weed. Also I was thinking of getting the rotovator if it makes life easier as there are plenty of weeds and digging is taking decent time. Please let me know if that will be helpful so that I can rent one out or should I just use hand tools. Thanks in advance for all the help. -- RK77 like the guy says, lay newspaper down then topsoil. that works very well. or, you can use roundup on the weeds; that seems to kill them off but doesn't kill future grass. might take a few sprays though, from my experience. at least, some weeds seem to die right away, some don't and i decided to spray them again. either way, like the other guy says, there's going to be weed seeds waiting in the new turf, as well as blowing in. but..... once you get a nice thick healthy lawn, that tends to prevent new weeds from sprouting, or thriving once they sprout. That's a great way to learn about biotoxins. Just ask guys what they think. Too bad you couldn't have a couple of beers while your at it. But before you let the kids, or the grandkids run out and play on your chemical lawn you may want to read some of the following. http://www.naturalnews.com/023254.html Monsanto: History of Contamination and Cover-up http://www.i-sis.org.uk/DMPGR.php ISIS Press Release 11/02/09 Death by Multiple Poisoning, Glyphosate and Roundup http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...monsanto200805 Monsanto¹s Harvest of Fear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup Health, ecological concerns and controversy Roundup commercial formulations were never submitted to test by the United States Environmental Protection Agency? (EPA), its main active ingredient, glyphosate, received EPA Toxicity Class of III for oral and inhalation exposure.[3] Beyond the glyphosate salts content, commercial formulations of Roundup contain surfactants, which vary in nature and concentration. As a result, human poisoning with this herbicide is not with the main active ingredient alone but with complex and variable mixtures. [4] [edit] Human and mammalian toxicity About Roundup formulations, a 2000 review of the available literature published in a Monsanto sponsored journal,[5] conducted by Ian C. Munro a member of the Cantox scientific and regulatory consulting firm, which role is defined as "protect client interests while helping our clients achieve milestones and bring products to market"[6] concluded that "under present and expected conditions of new use, there is no potential for Roundup herbicide to pose a health risk to humans".[7] This review is extensively cited by Monsanto. On the other hand, a same year review of the toxicological data on Roundup shows that there are at least 58 studies of the effects of Roundup itself on a range of organisms.[8] This review concluded that "for terrestrial uses of Roundup minimal acute and chronic risk was predicted for potentially exposed nontarget organisms". It also concluded that there were some risks to aquatic organisms exposed to Roundup in shallow water. In later mammalian research, Roundup has been found to interfere with an enzyme involved testosterone production in mouse cell culture[9] and to interfere with an estrogen biosynthesis enzyme in cultures of Human Placental cells.[10] A 2008 scientific study has shown that Roundup formulations and metabolic products cause the death of human embryonic, placental, and umbilical cells in vitro even at low concentrations. The effects were not proportional to the main active ingredient concentrations (glyphosate) but dependent on the nature of the adjuvants used in the Roundup formulation.[11] Opponents of Roundup claim that it has been found to cause genetic damage, citing Peluso et al.[12] The authors concluded that the damage was "not related to the active ingredient, but to another component of the herbicide mixture". There is a reasonable correlation between the amount of Roundup ingested and the likelihood of serious systemic sequelae or death. Ingestion of 85 mL of the concentrated formulation is likely to cause significant toxicity in adults. Gastrointestinal corrosive effects, with mouth, throat and epigastric pain and dysphagia are common. Renal and hepatic impairment are also frequent and usually reflect reduced organ perfusion. Respiratory distress, impaired consciousness, pulmonary oedema, infiltration on chest x-ray, shock, arrythmias, renal failure requiring haemodialysis, metabolic acidosis and hyperkalaemia may supervene in severe cases. Bradycardia and ventricular arrhythmias are often present pre-terminally. Dermal exposure to ready-to-use glyphosate formulations can cause irritation and photo-contact dermatitis has been reported occasionally; these effects are probably due to the preservative Proxel (benzisothiazolin-3-one). Severe skin burns are very rare. Inhalation is a minor route of exposure but spray mist may cause oral or nasal discomfort, an unpleasant taste in the mouth, tingling and throat irritation. Eye exposure may lead to mild conjunctivitis, and superficial corneal injury is possible if irrigation is delayed or inadequate. [4] [edit] False advertising In 1996 Monsanto was accused of false and misleading advertising of glyphosate products, prompting a law suit by the New York State attorney general.[13] On Fri Jan 20, 2007, Monsanto was convicted of false advertising of Roundup for presenting Roundup as biodegradable and claiming that it left the soil clean after use. Environmental and consumer rights campaigners brought the case in 2001 on the basis that glyphosate, Roundup's main ingredient, is classed as "dangerous for the environment" and "toxic for aquatic organisms" by the European Union. Monsanto France planned to appeal the verdict at the time. [14] [edit] Scientific fraud . . . And it goes on and on. So if you want to pollute the environment and make a rogue chemical company rich, even when there are organic methods that are cheaper and just as effective, there's nothing I can do to stop you. I just wish, though, that you would explain it to your kids. Lets review...2000+ studies say there is no problem. 58 studies say there may be a minimal effect on certain species. Seems Billy is proving the case to use roundup. EJ in NJ |
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