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I live on a quiet corner (traffic wise) and the ivy has grown over the
curb. It's been a few years since I cleaned this out so there's as a
good bit of soil in there, it's pretty light in consistency, dark in
color and full of worms. To a gardening novice this seems like good
soil, much lighter that what I get out of the bag, or from the bottom of
the mulch pile.

What should I do with this? I've got a grape to plant and I'd like to
pot up some roses. Would it be suitable for that, or should I amend it?

Jeff
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Jeff wrote:

I live on a quiet corner (traffic wise) and the ivy has grown over the
curb. It's been a few years since I cleaned this out so there's as a
good bit of soil in there, it's pretty light in consistency, dark in
color and full of worms. To a gardening novice this seems like good
soil, much lighter that what I get out of the bag, or from the bottom of
the mulch pile.

What should I do with this? I've got a grape to plant and I'd like to
pot up some roses. Would it be suitable for that, or should I amend it?

Jeff


If you don't treat it well, it will turn to crap. My suggestion is to
prep an area for planting (organic N-P-K, organic matter, plus needs
based on local conditions), introduce some worms from your quite corner,
and cover with alfalfa (lucerne). As long as you keep it covered with
alfalfa (lucerne), you will have worms. Otherwise, the alfalfa will
attract worms, so maybe you should just leave a good thing alone. The
soil is a product of its (see, I can learn) environment. Change the
environment and you will change the soil.
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I live on a quiet corner (traffic wise) and the ivy has grown over the
curb. It's been a few years since I cleaned this out so there's as a good
bit of soil in there, it's pretty light in consistency, dark in color and
full of worms. To a gardening novice this seems like good soil, much
lighter that what I get out of the bag, or from the bottom of the mulch
pile.

What should I do with this? I've got a grape to plant and I'd like to
pot up some roses. Would it be suitable for that, or should I amend it?

Jeff


Hi, Jeff. Thanks for the question. I ran into something similar when
working on my elderly mother's yard. She has a drainage ditch in concrete
bounded by a shallow curb between her house and a neighbor. While mowing
and trimming, I found that many leaves from many types of trees had landed
there. My nephews and nieces previously did this kind of work. Apparently,
they left if all alone for nature to do its work on the leaves. I'd say I'd
have to know what's most likely in your stewing mass (soil) at the curbline
before I'd say to use it or not. Some trees have natural growth deterrents
in their leaves for instance.
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I live on a quiet corner (traffic wise) and the ivy has grown over the
curb. It's been a few years since I cleaned this out so there's as a good
bit of soil in there, it's pretty light in consistency, dark in color and
full of worms. To a gardening novice this seems like good soil, much
lighter that what I get out of the bag, or from the bottom of the mulch
pile.

What should I do with this? I've got a grape to plant and I'd like to
pot up some roses. Would it be suitable for that, or should I amend it?

Jeff


Hi, Jeff. Thanks for the question. I ran into something similar when
working on my elderly mother's yard. She has a drainage ditch in concrete
bounded by a shallow curb between her house and a neighbor. While mowing
and trimming, I found that many leaves from many types of trees had landed
there. My nephews and nieces previously did this kind of work. Apparently,
they left if all alone for nature to do its work on the leaves. I'd say I'd
have to know what's most likely in your stewing mass (soil) at the curbline
before I'd say to use it or not. Some trees have natural growth deterrents
in their leaves for instance.



Nearby trees are dogwood, pine, maple and pine. I potted up the roses
in it. I saw the post on aleopathy, is this what you meant?

Jeff
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