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Where buy high quality low voltage landscape lights ?
on 6/9/2009 10:47 AM (ET) brooklyn1 wrote the following:
"willshak" wrote in message news on 6/8/2009 12:24 PM (ET) brooklyn1 wrote the following: "willshak" wrote: I don't think the OP is talking about solar powered lights. However I was in HD or Lowes last week and I saw solar powered lights that said the batteries are regular AA rechargeables. The problem I've had with solar powered lights is that the solar panel plastic turns milky and gets hairline cracks. I've gone so far as to buff the lenses and coated them with Future floor finish, but it doesn't last.. It was only a week ago and you don't know if you were in Home Depot or Lowe's... something is terribly amiss with your perceptive ability. If you must know, I wasn't looking to buy patio lights, but I was passing through the aisles where they were displayed. I was in both stores that day and they are within sight of each other.. Sounds more like you futzed with buffing and coating your lamp's solar panels when new out of the box, thinking you'd improve them, instead you destroyed them. Mine have been operating perfectly for nearly seven years and show no crazing or opaqueness whatsoever, and the only cleaning they get is from when it rains. This photo was taken like a week ago, my solar panels look exactly like when brand new: http://i43.tinypic.com/2ivuhz.jpg Btw, anyone know the name of that plant, I would appreciate it, I can't remember and the tag is lost. You don't remember the name of the plant that you planted on your property, and you criticized my memory? I never said I planted it, was there when I moved here. I've seen that plant at a local nursery but don't remember the name, of the plant, I know the name of the nursery. The original owner had little copper tags by many of the plants, that one is missing or may never have been. That plant could have been planted shortly after that deck was built, some twenty six years ago, not six days ago. Btw, I've been separating and planting pieces in unprotected areas, so far the deer and rabbits don't eat it. This is the solar lamp I bought from Lowe's on 11/11/03, still works perfectly. I paid $35 for a set of two. I wouldn't coat the solar panels with anything as it may act like a sun screen one applies against sunburn, blocking the rays that recharge the batteries... I'd think modern auto waxes do contain a sunscreen to protect paint finishes.... clearly says any modification voids the warranty. It's very easy to replace the batteries, so far I'm still using the original batteries. Don't buy any B & D cordless vacuum, costs as much to change the battery pack as to buy a new unit. I never said I buffed and coated the panels 'out of the box'. The buffing and coating was done after they clouded over, as an experiment, like buffing plastic headlights when they cloud up, to see if they would regain their operation. They did for a while. Malibu makes cheaper (plastic) solar lights too, they also make low voltage lights, but these are made very substantially of cast aluminum and beautifully finished, I got the ones with the pewter finish: http://www.malibulights.com/index.ph...&pi d=LZ14001 When I bought them it was simply an impulse purchase, I did no research, they just looked nice and the price was right. Initially I wanted solar lights for markers at the foot of my driveway but soon realized it wouldn't be such a good idea as anyone passing could make off with them, so I put them in back at my deck. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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Where buy high quality low voltage landscape lights ?
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:49:06 -0400, KLS wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:24:48 GMT, "brooklyn1" wrote: This photo was taken like a week ago, my solar panels look exactly like when brand new: http://i43.tinypic.com/2ivuhz.jpg Btw, anyone know the name of that plant, I would appreciate it, I can't remember and the tag is lost. Those are lupines, a really nice perennial. No idea what variety, but yours are lovely! Now if the OP had just been a Monty Python fan... bg |
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"brooklyn1" wrote: And there are now solar lamps that do emit enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw light a distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole. Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priority list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans. But when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on solar lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquette of glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 10 or 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you had about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new ones that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec? |
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those solar lights don't actually "illuminate" anything around them. They
just glow in the dark. |
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "brooklyn1" wrote: And there are now solar lamps that do emit enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw light a distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole. Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priority list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans. But when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on solar lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquette of glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 10 or 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you had about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new ones that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec? He didn't say how tall the flagpole was, or its corresponding sized flag either. That could be a factor regardless the lumens stated. All ones for that purpose I've seen are using standard electrical power from a meter loop of some sort. They also have a focusing shroud around such a light. Said light is pointed at the top of the flagpole to cover all directions the flag could furl. Guess if you're wearing a low-light detection device, you could see such a flag illuminated by a solar-powered light. -- Dave |
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"Dioclese" NONE wrote in message m... "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "brooklyn1" wrote: And there are now solar lamps that do emit enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw light a distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole. Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priority list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans. But when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on solar lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquette of glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 10 or 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you had about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new ones that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec? He didn't say how tall the flagpole was, or its corresponding sized flag either. That could be a factor regardless the lumens stated. All ones for that purpose I've seen are using standard electrical power from a meter loop of some sort. They also have a focusing shroud around such a light. Said light is pointed at the top of the flagpole to cover all directions the flag could furl. Guess if you're wearing a low-light detection device, you could see such a flag illuminated by a solar-powered light. -- Dave Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it. http://www.solarlighting.com/ http://www.solarlightstore.com/ |
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"brooklyn1" wrote in message
... "Dioclese" NONE wrote in message m... "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "brooklyn1" wrote: And there are now solar lamps that do emit enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw light a distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole. Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priority list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans. But when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on solar lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquette of glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 10 or 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you had about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new ones that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec? He didn't say how tall the flagpole was, or its corresponding sized flag either. That could be a factor regardless the lumens stated. All ones for that purpose I've seen are using standard electrical power from a meter loop of some sort. They also have a focusing shroud around such a light. Said light is pointed at the top of the flagpole to cover all directions the flag could furl. Guess if you're wearing a low-light detection device, you could see such a flag illuminated by a solar-powered light. -- Dave Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it. http://www.solarlighting.com/ http://www.solarlightstore.com/ Guess its a matter of perspective. 20 watts of light ain't much. Guess you may be able to detect a flag atop a flagpole without low-light visual aids if you've been in the darkness for sometime. Depends how high the flagpole is too. http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar...light4pack.cfm -- Dave |
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On Jun 13, 9:21*am, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:
"brooklyn1" wrote in message ... "Dioclese" NONE wrote in message om... "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "brooklyn1" wrote: And there are now solar lamps that do emit enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw light a distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole. Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priority list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans. But when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on solar lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquette of glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 10 or 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you had about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new ones that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec? He didn't say how tall the flagpole was, or its corresponding sized flag either. *That could be a factor regardless the lumens stated. *All ones for that purpose I've seen are using standard electrical power from a meter loop of some sort. *They also have a focusing shroud around such a light. *Said light is pointed at the top of the flagpole to cover all directions the flag could furl. *Guess if you're wearing a low-light detection device, you could see such a flag illuminated by a solar-powered light. -- Dave Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. *Solar lighting has come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser purses. *Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it. http://www.solarlighting.com/ http://www.solarlightstore.com/ Guess its a matter of perspective. *20 watts of light ain't much. *Guess you may be able to detect a flag atop a flagpole without low-light visual aids if you've been in the darkness for sometime. *Depends how high the flagpole is too. http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar...lights/integra... -- Dave http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar...lightwhite.cfm Took a quick look at the biggest spotlight at the above store that one might think would be best suited to get a decent amount of light for a flag on top of a pole. Look a the specs: 8 LEDS, 5 volts, plastic, 2lbs. If you're trying to make a case for solar, that sure ain't the way to do it. Stating the light output, how long it will maintain the light, etc would be a good start. |
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"brooklyn1" wrote: Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it. http://www.solarlighting.com/ http://www.solarlightstore.com/ Well, your first link is to commercial solar. We were talking about homeowner landscape lighting. As to the second link, please select from that website, one self-contained solar-powered landscape light that lists lumen specs, so I don't have to go wading through the whole site to see what your point is. |
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wrote in message ... On Jun 13, 9:21 am, "Dioclese" NONE wrote: "brooklyn1" wrote in message ... "Dioclese" NONE wrote in message om... "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "brooklyn1" wrote: And there are now solar lamps that do emit enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw light a distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole. Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priority list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans. But when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on solar lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquette of glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 10 or 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you had about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new ones that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec? He didn't say how tall the flagpole was, or its corresponding sized flag either. That could be a factor regardless the lumens stated. All ones for that purpose I've seen are using standard electrical power from a meter loop of some sort. They also have a focusing shroud around such a light. Said light is pointed at the top of the flagpole to cover all directions the flag could furl. Guess if you're wearing a low-light detection device, you could see such a flag illuminated by a solar-powered light. -- Dave Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it. http://www.solarlighting.com/ http://www.solarlightstore.com/ Guess its a matter of perspective. 20 watts of light ain't much. Guess you may be able to detect a flag atop a flagpole without low-light visual aids if you've been in the darkness for sometime. Depends how high the flagpole is too. http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar...lights/integra... -- Dave http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar...lightwhite.cfm Took a quick look at the biggest spotlight at the above store that one might think would be best suited to get a decent amount of light for a flag on top of a pole. Look a the specs: 8 LEDS, 5 volts, plastic, 2lbs. If you're trying to make a case for solar, that sure ain't the way to do it. Stating the light output, how long it will maintain the light, etc would be a good start. ====== What a skank... you picked out the least expensive lamps at the web site... a set of 5 @ $70.. what do you expect for like $12 each, cast stainless steel with a 20 year guarantee... duh I think for the price they're a great buy, better than low voltage sets, and if not abused by stepping on them or running a lawnmower over them will probably give many years of service. And you cannot judge illumination by wattage... when I went to school I was taught that watts is a measure of energy consumed, not output... high wattage appliances typically consume most power to generate heat... there are actually idiots out there (many idiots) who buy kitchen mixing machines by wattage... I guess they wanna use them as hair driers. The same lumens can be focused or diffused. I have various Mag-Lites that throw very intense light over great distance, powered by a couple AA cells... would definitely illuminate a flag atop a 20 ft pole, with a more efficient battery (such as is typical with solar lights) it would illuminate a flag all night With solar lights (any lights), depending on use the lower wattage may very well be the better choice... I have recessed fluorescent fixtures in my kitchen that give tremendous illumination yet consume very little wattage. Anyone who discounts solar lighting is truely a pinhead... some 70 years ago the same kind of pinheads poopooed fluorescent lights. Do yoose realize that the first automobiles used oil lamps as head lights, now they use high intensity lamps that are many times more efficient than those from just a few short years ago... believe it or not there are still many people (most of the world) who light their homes (when they do) exclusively with oil lamps and candles... they don't need any stinkin' new fangled 'lectricity. Folks better start getting used to solar energy, it's the future. The gas station has already been here more than twice as long as it will exist into the future... your great grandchildren will only know a gas station in a museum. It really doesn't matter that there will shortly be no more US made automobiles, it was bound to happen, better sooner than later, it's the best thing could have happened... need is the mother of invention. Again the US will be at the forefront. The arabs are again proving that they are the inferior people, they have more sun than oil, yet what are they doing about it. |
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:43:38 GMT, against all advice, something
compelled "brooklyn1" , to say: Anyone who discounts solar lighting is truely a pinhead... Well, I can't really imagine why anyone would want solar lighting. I mean, when the sun is out, can't you see things well enough? Sheesh. -- Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats. - Howard Aiken |
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "brooklyn1" wrote: Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it. http://www.solarlighting.com/ http://www.solarlightstore.com/ Well, your first link is to commercial solar. We were talking about homeowner landscape lighting. As to the second link, please select from that website, one self-contained solar-powered landscape light that lists lumen specs, so I don't have to go wading through the whole site to see what your point is. Does your mommy still hafta wipe your tushy... if it's so important to you there's an 800 number or send email. Lumens aren't very important with outdoor lighting... typical indoor lighting reflects off the walls,ceiling, floors, and furnishings back into the room... outdoor lighting travels to infinity... type of source/light and how it's concentrated is what's important... that's why there are floodlights, spot lights, etc. |
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In article ,
"brooklyn1" wrote: "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "brooklyn1" wrote: Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it. http://www.solarlighting.com/ http://www.solarlightstore.com/ Well, your first link is to commercial solar. We were talking about homeowner landscape lighting. As to the second link, please select from that website, one self-contained solar-powered landscape light that lists lumen specs, so I don't have to go wading through the whole site to see what your point is. Does your mommy still hafta wipe your tushy... if it's so important to you there's an 800 number or send email. Lumens aren't very important with outdoor lighting... typical indoor lighting reflects off the walls,ceiling, floors, and furnishings back into the room... outdoor lighting travels to infinity... type of source/light and how it's concentrated is what's important... that's why there are floodlights, spot lights, etc. Ah, Shelly's charm offensive (or should that be offensive charm? Hmmmmm). -- - Billy "For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Zunx_goz4 http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/2...ra_hass_on_the |
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On Jun 13, 12:43*pm, "brooklyn1" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jun 13, 9:21 am, "Dioclese" NONE wrote: "brooklyn1" wrote in message .. . "Dioclese" NONE wrote in message om... "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "brooklyn1" wrote: And there are now solar lamps that do emit enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw light a distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole. Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priority list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans. But when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on solar lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquette of glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 10 or 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you had about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new ones that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec? He didn't say how tall the flagpole was, or its corresponding sized flag either. That could be a factor regardless the lumens stated. All ones for that purpose I've seen are using standard electrical power from a meter loop of some sort. They also have a focusing shroud around such a light. Said light is pointed at the top of the flagpole to cover all directions the flag could furl. Guess if you're wearing a low-light detection device, you could see such a flag illuminated by a solar-powered light. -- Dave Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it. http://www.solarlighting.com/ http://www.solarlightstore.com/ Guess its a matter of perspective. 20 watts of light ain't much. Guess you may be able to detect a flag atop a flagpole without low-light visual aids if you've been in the darkness for sometime. Depends how high the flagpole is too. http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar...lights/integra... -- Dave http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar...lights/8ledsol... Took a quick look at the biggest spotlight at the above store that one might think would be best suited to get a decent amount of light for a flag on top of a pole. * Look a the specs: *8 LEDS, 5 volts, plastic, 2lbs. * *If you're trying to make a case for solar, that sure ain't the way to do it. * Stating the light output, how long it will maintain the light, etc would be a good start. ====== What a skank... you picked out the least expensive lamps at the web site.... a set of 5 @ $70.. what do you expect for like $12 each, cast stainless steel with a 20 year guarantee... duh *I think for the price they're a great buy, better than low voltage sets, and if not abused by stepping on them or running a lawnmower over them will probably give many years of service. And you cannot judge illumination by wattage... I never suggested judging illumination by wattage. I only pointed out that they have NO SPEC of any kind for the light output for the solar light I looked at. Should I waste my time looking at every light there? If you have a great example of a solar light with specs that can be used to light a flag at the top of a pole, I'm sure we'd all like to see a direct link to it. /.when I went to school I was taught that watts is a measure of energy consumed, not output... high wattage appliances typically consume most power to generate heat... there are actually idiots out there (many idiots) who buy kitchen mixing machines by wattage... I guess they wanna use them as hair driers. * The same lumens can be focused or diffused. *I have various Mag-Lites that throw very intense light over great distance, powered by a couple AA cells... would definitely illuminate a flag atop a 20 ft pole, with a more efficient battery (such as is typical with solar lights) it would illuminate a flag all night *With solar lights (any lights), depending on use the lower wattage may very well be the better choice... I have recessed fluorescent fixtures in my kitchen that give tremendous illumination yet consume very little wattage. *Anyone who discounts solar lighting is truely a pinhead... some 70 years ago the same kind of pinheads poopooed fluorescent lights. *Do yoose realize that the first automobiles used oil lamps as head lights, now they use high intensity lamps that are many times more efficient than those from just a few short years ago... believe it or not there are still many people (most of the world) who light their homes (when they do) exclusively with oil lamps and candles... they don't need any stinkin' new fangled 'lectricity. *Folks better start getting used to solar energy, it's the future. *The gas station has already been here more than twice as long as it will exist into the future... your great grandchildren will only know a gas station in a museum. *It really doesn't matter that there will shortly be no more US made automobiles, it was bound to happen, better sooner than later, it's the best thing could have happened... need is the mother of invention. |
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