I been reading on the net about studies that have been done using urine
as fertilizer. Sounds like it's safe to use when diluted. In different
experiments that were done, human urine really seemed to increase
production in certain vegetable crops big time! The articles also state
that urine is loaded with nitrogen. Perhaps it's not just human urine
but any urine. My neighbor told me that many years ago he knew an old
farmer that used to take a bucket out in the morning and catch urine
right from his cows while they were urinating. He would then pour the
urine between the rows of his plants. My neighbor said this farmer done
this his whole life and always grew wonderful veggies. I would imagine
that he would of diluted this urine also as not to burn the plants. I
know what happens when my dog ****es on the lawn.....LOL

Rich

EVP MAN wrote:
I been reading on the net about studies that have been done using
urine as fertilizer. Sounds like it's safe to use when diluted. In
different experiments that were done, human urine really seemed to
increase production in certain vegetable crops big time!

Yes

The
articles also state that urine is loaded with nitrogen. Perhaps it's
not just human urine but any urine.

Yes

My neighbor told me that many
years ago he knew an old farmer that used to take a bucket out in the
morning and catch urine right from his cows while they were
urinating. He would then pour the urine between the rows of his
plants. My neighbor said this farmer done this his whole life and
always grew wonderful veggies. I would imagine that he would of
diluted this urine also as not to burn the plants. I know what
happens when my dog ****es on the lawn.....LOL

Rich

Dogs they tend to go repeatedly in the same spot which compounds the
problem.

Provided that the donor does not have urinary tract infection it is safe
from a health point of view. Provided that you dilute it (or water it in)
it is safe from burning your plants. Large citrus trees (which are heavy
nitrogen feeders) can take it undiluted in modest quantities. Everyone
should teach their children to pee on the lemon tree.

David

Well here in PA, I don't have any lemon trees but I think the
experiment was conducted using tomato plants and we have plenty of them.
But then I also understand that too much nitrogen produces a huge plant
with very little fruit. Guess since urine is loaded with nitrogen, it
may only be of value to soil that's nitrogen depleted.

Rich

EVP MAN wrote:
Well here in PA, I don't have any lemon trees but I think the
experiment was conducted using tomato plants and we have plenty of
them. But then I also understand that too much nitrogen produces a
huge plant with very little fruit. Guess since urine is loaded with
nitrogen, it may only be of value to soil that's nitrogen depleted.

Rich

Or for heavy N feeders, it gets used up fairly quickly unless replaced.
However David Ross is right, if your soil is at risk of becoming sodised use
it sparingly.

David

On 3/12/10 8:22 PM, EVP MAN wrote:

I been reading on the net about studies that have been done using urine
as fertilizer. Sounds like it's safe to use when diluted. In different
experiments that were done, human urine really seemed to increase
production in certain vegetable crops big time! The articles also state
that urine is loaded with nitrogen. Perhaps it's not just human urine
but any urine. My neighbor told me that many years ago he knew an old
farmer that used to take a bucket out in the morning and catch urine
right from his cows while they were urinating. He would then pour the
urine between the rows of his plants. My neighbor said this farmer done
this his whole life and always grew wonderful veggies. I would imagine
that he would of diluted this urine also as not to burn the plants. I
know what happens when my dog ****es on the lawn.....LOL

Rich


It's generally too rich in salt, ordinary NaCl.

Across much of south-western U.S., the soils and water both already have
so much salt that repeated irrigation poisons the soil unless there is
sufficient rain to leach away the salt. The use of urine would only
make that problem worse.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

(EVP MAN) wrote:

I been reading on the net about studies that have been done using urine
as fertilizer. Sounds like it's safe to use when diluted. In different
experiments that were done, human urine really seemed to increase
production in certain vegetable crops big time! The articles also state
that urine is loaded with nitrogen. Perhaps it's not just human urine
but any urine. My neighbor told me that many years ago he knew an old
farmer that used to take a bucket out in the morning and catch urine
right from his cows while they were urinating. He would then pour the
urine between the rows of his plants. My neighbor said this farmer done
this his whole life and always grew wonderful veggies. I would imagine
that he would of diluted this urine also as not to burn the plants. I
know what happens when my dog ****es on the lawn.....LOL

Golden Shower Acres

If it's ecoli you're looking for, you'll get that aplenty by using
human urine as a fertilizer. Plus a few other fun things that
will make you run to the doctor.

It may work in helping plants grow, and if you're not going to
eat any of the product....go for it.

But to eat? nononononono

Donna
in WA






I been reading on the net about studies that have been done using urine
as fertilizer. Sounds like it's safe to use when diluted. In different
experiments that were done, human urine really seemed to increase
production in certain vegetable crops big time! The articles also state
that urine is loaded with nitrogen. Perhaps it's not just human urine
but any urine. My neighbor told me that many years ago he knew an old
farmer that used to take a bucket out in the morning and catch urine
right from his cows while they were urinating. He would then pour the
urine between the rows of his plants. My neighbor said this farmer done
this his whole life and always grew wonderful veggies. I would imagine
that he would of diluted this urine also as not to burn the plants. I
know what happens when my dog ****es on the lawn.....LOL

Rich

In article ,
"Lelandite" wrote:

If it's ecoli you're looking for, you'll get that aplenty by using
human urine as a fertilizer. Plus a few other fun things that
will make you run to the doctor.

It may work in helping plants grow, and if you're not going to
eat any of the product....go for it.

But to eat? nononononono

Donna
in WA






I been reading on the net about studies that have been done using urine
as fertilizer. Sounds like it's safe to use when diluted. In different
experiments that were done, human urine really seemed to increase
production in certain vegetable crops big time! The articles also state
that urine is loaded with nitrogen. Perhaps it's not just human urine
but any urine. My neighbor told me that many years ago he knew an old
farmer that used to take a bucket out in the morning and catch urine
right from his cows while they were urinating. He would then pour the
urine between the rows of his plants. My neighbor said this farmer done
this his whole life and always grew wonderful veggies. I would imagine
that he would of diluted this urine also as not to burn the plants. I
know what happens when my dog ****es on the lawn.....LOL

Rich


I thought Urine was sterile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine#Agriculture

--
Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
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http://myloc.gov/Exhibitions/voicesfromafghanistan/Pages/Default.aspx

Bill who putters;880030]In article ,
"Lelandite" wrote:

If it's ecoli you're looking for, you'll get that aplenty by using
human urine as a fertilizer. Plus a few other fun things that
will make you run to the doctor.

It may work in helping plants grow, and if you're not going to
eat any of the product....go for it.

But to eat? nononononono

Donna
in WA






I been reading on the net about studies that have been done using urine
as fertilizer. Sounds like it's safe to use when diluted. In different
experiments that were done, human urine really seemed to increase
production in certain vegetable crops big time! The articles also state
that urine is loaded with nitrogen. Perhaps it's not just human urine
but any urine. My neighbor told me that many years ago he knew an old
farmer that used to take a bucket out in the morning and catch urine
right from his cows while they were urinating. He would then pour the
urine between the rows of his plants. My neighbor said this farmer done
this his whole life and always grew wonderful veggies. I would imagine
that he would of diluted this urine also as not to burn the plants. I
know what happens when my dog ****es on the lawn.....LOL

Rich


I thought Urine was sterile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine#Agriculture

--
Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
http://www.globalissues.org/article/...itary-spending
http://myloc.gov/Exhibitions/voicesf...s/Default.aspx


yes human urine is completely sterile unlike human feces. some ppl that have been stranded and survived to tell the story have had to drink their own urine in order to survive.

Lelandite wrote:
If it's ecoli you're looking for, you'll get that aplenty by using
human urine as a fertilizer. Plus a few other fun things that
will make you run to the doctor.

It may work in helping plants grow, and if you're not going to
eat any of the product....go for it.

But to eat? nononononono

Donna
in WA


This is misleading. You are confusing using urine with the problems of
using faeces as a manure. Unless properly treated the latter is a fine
source of E Coli and a few more besides and a substantial risk to health.

As it passes out of the body (unless you have a urinary tract infection)
urine is sterile. It might possibly pick up some bugs from your skin or the
outermost reaches of the urethra but the count would be low and you are
living with all that flora on you anyway. Your whole body, especially
between knees and waist, is covered with such. If urine is then promptly
applied to your soil the risk is minuscule, no more than background from
working in the garden environment.

David

Lelandite wrote:
If it's ecoli you're looking for, you'll get that aplenty by using
human urine as a fertilizer. Plus a few other fun things that
will make you run to the doctor.

It may work in helping plants grow, and if you're not going to
eat any of the product....go for it.

But to eat? nononononono

Donna
in WA


This is misleading. You are confusing using urine with the problems of using
faeces as a manure. Unless properly treated the latter is a fine source of E
Coli and a few more besides and a substantial risk to health.

As it passes out of the body (unless you have a urinary tract infection) urine
is sterile. It might possibly pick up some bugs from your skin or the
outermost reaches of the urethra but the count would be low and you are living
with all that flora on you anyway. Your whole body, especially between knees
and waist, is covered with such. If urine is then promptly applied to your
soil the risk is minuscule, no more than background from working in the garden
environment.

David


Well, if you want to pee on your plants and then eat them, go for it.
It would be kind, however, to let the neighbors know when it comes
time for a picnic.

Any idea how many get ecoli from eating lettuce?

Donna
in WA

In article ,
"Lelandite" wrote:

Lelandite wrote:
If it's ecoli you're looking for, you'll get that aplenty by using
human urine as a fertilizer. Plus a few other fun things that
will make you run to the doctor.

It may work in helping plants grow, and if you're not going to
eat any of the product....go for it.

But to eat? nononononono

Donna
in WA


This is misleading. You are confusing using urine with the problems of
using
faeces as a manure. Unless properly treated the latter is a fine source of
E
Coli and a few more besides and a substantial risk to health.

As it passes out of the body (unless you have a urinary tract infection)
urine
is sterile. It might possibly pick up some bugs from your skin or the
outermost reaches of the urethra but the count would be low and you are
living
with all that flora on you anyway. Your whole body, especially between
knees
and waist, is covered with such. If urine is then promptly applied to your
soil the risk is minuscule, no more than background from working in the
garden
environment.

David


Well, if you want to pee on your plants and then eat them, go for it.
It would be kind, however, to let the neighbors know when it comes
time for a picnic.

Any idea how many get ecoli from eating lettuce?

Donna
in WA

Your changing the subject from No. 1 to No. 2 .
Or as the ol' cowboy song went,"If I'm not number one in your life, then
number two on you." ;O)
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

Lelandite wrote:
Lelandite wrote:
If it's ecoli you're looking for, you'll get that aplenty by using
human urine as a fertilizer. Plus a few other fun things that
will make you run to the doctor.

It may work in helping plants grow, and if you're not going to
eat any of the product....go for it.

But to eat? nononononono

Donna
in WA


This is misleading. You are confusing using urine with the problems
of using faeces as a manure. Unless properly treated the latter is
a fine source of E Coli and a few more besides and a substantial
risk to health. As it passes out of the body (unless you have a urinary
tract
infection) urine is sterile. It might possibly pick up some bugs
from your skin or the outermost reaches of the urethra but the count
would be low and you are living with all that flora on you anyway. Your
whole body, especially between knees and waist, is covered with
such. If urine is then promptly applied to your soil the risk is
minuscule, no more than background from working in the garden
environment. David


Well, if you want to pee on your plants and then eat them, go for it.
It would be kind, however, to let the neighbors know when it comes
time for a picnic.


I was talking about applying it to soil. I was not talking about ****ing on
the picnic.

Any idea how many get ecoli from eating lettuce?


Yes, many. It comes from poor food preparation practices such as dirty
hands and washing lettuce in unlean water. E Coli lives in your lower gut
not in your urinary tract. Dirty lettuce has nothing to do with puting urine
on your soil. I was not suggesting that one should pee on lettuce, if
nothing else it smells bad.

You seem to be having that eeewwww reaction that comes from your emotion not
your understanding.

David

"Lelandite" wrote in message

Any idea how many get ecoli from eating lettuce?

The US has had quite a few problems with E coli on lettuce and Spinach and
I'm sure from reading up on the issue after these outbreaks occurred, it was
found to be as a result of from contamination with faecal matter. I do know
that the spinach problem was from water contaminated with faeces and I seem
to recall that it was from a farm next door that had dairy cows. I do
recall that urine was not the culprit.

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:32:03 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

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"Lelandite" wrote in message

Any idea how many get ecoli from eating lettuce?

The US has had quite a few problems with E coli on lettuce and Spinach and
I'm sure from reading up on the issue after these outbreaks occurred,
it was
found to be as a result of from contamination with faecal matter. I
do know
that the spinach problem was from water contaminated with faeces and I seem
to recall that it was from a farm next door that had dairy cows. I do
recall that urine was not the culprit.

Plenty of people contaminate their own home made raw food with ecoli
from their own unwashed hands, which
were contaminated with ecoli from their own pets or poor bathroom hygiene.


Janet


You hit the nail on the head. I get disgusted every time I use a
public toilet. Most men do not wash their hands. Well, maybe not,
but you'd be surprised how many of those are well-dressed in business
suits. Another reason I do not eat in restaurants.