"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
Summary execution.

Why?

Is that the punishment for the charges he faces? If not, are just you
putting in an opinion about the punishment you think Manning should face?

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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
Summary execution.

Why?

Is that the punishment for the charges he faces? If not, are just you
putting in an opinion about the punishment you think Manning should face?

On July 5, Bradley Manning was charged under the Uniform Code of
Military Justice for transferring classified data onto his personal
computer and communicating national defense information to an
unauthorized source between November 19, 2009 and May 27, 2010.

He wasn't charged with aiding an abetting an enemy. Actually, I think he
hurt the "enemy", depending, of course, on who we call the "enemy". I
don't include Bradley Manning among them.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph
p

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
Summary execution.

Why?

Is that the punishment for the charges he faces? If not, are just you
putting in an opinion about the punishment you think Manning should face?

On July 5, Bradley Manning was charged under the Uniform Code of
Military Justice for transferring classified data onto his personal
computer and communicating national defense information to an
unauthorized source between November 19, 2009 and May 27, 2010.

He wasn't charged with aiding an abetting an enemy. Actually, I think he
hurt the "enemy", depending, of course, on who we call the "enemy". I
don't include Bradley Manning among them.

Privacy is history. What makes the governments of the world think they
should have privacy when no law exist for the privacy concerns of it's
citizens. The so called theory of : The governments job to is protect the
people? Or is it to help government officials to hide from their crimes.

I will support the governments privacy concerns when I can also legally
encode my own communications in which is next to impossible to listen in
on. I do not buy the argument "For the protection of its citizens". 9/11
communication interceptions never helped it's citizens.

As for the soldier, he did break the law in which he was hired for and
deserves his prison time. However, he should be treated humanely, what ever
that is. Is he a martyr, perhaps, the jury is still out.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

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Nad R wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
Summary execution.

Why?

Is that the punishment for the charges he faces? If not, are just you
putting in an opinion about the punishment you think Manning should face?

On July 5, Bradley Manning was charged under the Uniform Code of
Military Justice for transferring classified data onto his personal
computer and communicating national defense information to an
unauthorized source between November 19, 2009 and May 27, 2010.

He wasn't charged with aiding an abetting an enemy. Actually, I think he
hurt the "enemy", depending, of course, on who we call the "enemy". I
don't include Bradley Manning among them.

Privacy is history. What makes the governments of the world think they
should have privacy when no law exist for the privacy concerns of it's
citizens. The so called theory of : The governments job to is protect the
people? Or is it to help government officials to hide from their crimes.

I will support the governments privacy concerns when I can also legally
encode my own communications in which is next to impossible to listen in
on. I do not buy the argument "For the protection of its citizens". 9/11
communication interceptions never helped it's citizens.

As for the soldier, he did break the law in which he was hired for and
deserves his prison time. However, he should be treated humanely, what ever
that is. Is he a martyr, perhaps, the jury is still out.

Jeez, et tu Bruté? The jury is not out, it hasn't been constituted or
seated. Manning hasn't been tried except in the minds of those who have
prejudged him. Let him have his day in court first, OK?
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph
p

On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:03:59 +0000, Nad R wrote:

Privacy is history. What makes the governments of the world think they
should have privacy when no law exist for the privacy concerns of it's
citizens. The so called theory of : The governments job to is protect
the people? Or is it to help government officials to hide from their
crimes.

I will support the governments privacy concerns when I can also legally
encode my own communications in which is next to impossible to listen in
on. I do not buy the argument "For the protection of its citizens". 9/11
communication interceptions never helped it's citizens.

As for the soldier, he did break the law in which he was hired for and
deserves his prison time. However, he should be treated humanely, what
ever that is. Is he a martyr, perhaps, the jury is still out.

I think it may be a crime to support illegal government activity.
Soldiers have a legal and moral right to blow a whistle.

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jellybean stonerfish wrote:

On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:03:59 +0000, Nad R wrote:

Privacy is history. What makes the governments of the world think they
should have privacy when no law exist for the privacy concerns of it's
citizens. The so called theory of : The governments job to is protect
the people? Or is it to help government officials to hide from their
crimes.

I will support the governments privacy concerns when I can also legally
encode my own communications in which is next to impossible to listen in
on. I do not buy the argument "For the protection of its citizens". 9/11
communication interceptions never helped it's citizens.

As for the soldier, he did break the law in which he was hired for and
deserves his prison time. However, he should be treated humanely, what
ever that is. Is he a martyr, perhaps, the jury is still out.

I think it may be a crime to support illegal government activity.
Soldiers have a legal and moral right to blow a whistle.

Do you support illegal government activity, Don? Do you support murder
and torture of people SUSPECTED to be criminals?

What would you do, if Pakistan killed 10 members of your family, to kill
one nationalist, excuse me, I mean militant? The money for the 9/11
killers did come from Pakistan after all.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph
p

jellybean stonerfish wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:03:59 +0000, Nad R wrote:

Privacy is history. What makes the governments of the world think they
should have privacy when no law exist for the privacy concerns of it's
citizens. The so called theory of : The governments job to is protect
the people? Or is it to help government officials to hide from their
crimes.

I will support the governments privacy concerns when I can also legally
encode my own communications in which is next to impossible to listen in
on. I do not buy the argument "For the protection of its citizens". 9/11
communication interceptions never helped it's citizens.

As for the soldier, he did break the law in which he was hired for and
deserves his prison time. However, he should be treated humanely, what
ever that is. Is he a martyr, perhaps, the jury is still out.

I think it may be a crime to support illegal government activity.
Soldiers have a legal and moral right to blow a whistle.

What is legal/illegal is a fine line when it comes to intelligence
information.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

"Billy" wrote in message
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
Summary execution.

Why?

Is that the punishment for the charges he faces? If not, are just you
putting in an opinion about the punishment you think Manning should face?

On July 5, Bradley Manning was charged under the Uniform Code of
Military Justice for transferring classified data onto his personal
computer and communicating national defense information to an
unauthorized source between November 19, 2009 and May 27, 2010.

So, if found guilty of that charge, is the punishment "summary execution"?

If so, it seems rather extreme given the boring nature of the information
contained in the leaks to date. Anyone with half a brain and an interest in
politics and world events and access to a computer could have reached
simialr conclusions.